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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm

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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep? Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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threebears

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April 21, 2006, 6:28 am PDT

MATT IS A DEADBEAT

If a man doesn't want to be a father then he shouldn't have sex! Simple as that. Some men out there have got to learn that if you can't keep it in your pants then you have to suffer the aftermath. I think Matt is just trying to find a way to keep from having to take responsibilities for his actions and doesn't want to fork out HIS money to take care of HIS baby. If he wins this lawsuit then it will just be another excuse for all the dads out there who are not taking care of their kids.

MATT: YOU DID CHOOSE TO BE A FATHER WHEN YOU HAD SEX, AND EVERY TIME YOU HAVE SEX YOU RUN THAT RISK. ALL WOMEN KNOW THAT, SO WHY CAN'T MEN LIKE YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOU THICKS SKULLS????????????????????????

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angelgran1

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April 21, 2006, 6:29 am PDT

Denying Roll as Father

He made the decision to be a father when he had sex with her first off, and secondly, when he failed to make sure there was some form of protection. He needs to put aside his selfishness and think about the future of the child. The child needs his/her father for protection, security, encouragement, love, happiness, etc etc.

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summer2424

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April 21, 2006, 6:29 am PDT

What a loser!

That poor little girl is going to grow up and ask about her father probably in hope that she can have a relationship with him. I just hope her mother will be able to find her little girl a real father who will take care of her. Maybe he can adopt the little girl. I dont even think I would tell the girl about her dad. He is going to reap what he sows. Nothing good is going to come of his actions. I just don't understand how someone can sit there and be so cold and non chalent about their own flesh.

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April 21, 2006, 6:30 am PDT

Disagreement

Well. I disagree with dad not wanting to be a dad. If your man enough to do the act your man enough to be a father! Both parties are responsible! NEVER belive anyone that says they cant have kids.. I been there done that! my oldest child's father said he could not have kids he has 3 boys now! This court case could possibly make many many men say they didnt want to be a father and not be obligated to support the child.

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April 21, 2006, 6:31 am PDT

What are they thinking!

I just happened to catch the show right before the break! The lawyer for the young man that doesn't want to be a father is a complete misinformed idiot! His comment "People were concerned about ripple affect of ROE vs WADE. That many children would be aborted... and that hasn't happened!" WHAT? Does he not realize how many THOUSANDS of children have been aborted since ROE vs WADE was instituted? How many men and women have used this as a way to erase their "mistakes?" He and his client's pursuit of this lawsuit is selfish and reckless. If he wins, then basically what the judicial system is saying is... YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS! It's called learn to read and use a condom! Wait you don't even have to read, you can just use the pictures! GROW UP and take responsiblity for your actions. We have enough men running around acting like children they don't need a legal precedent giving them permission. However, in the long run, perhaps this child would be better off not knowing a man that never really wanted him and is a selfish egotistical _______! I am so thankful that I married a man not a __________! (you can fill in the blanks!)

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April 21, 2006, 6:32 am PDT

Men should have the same choice

My husband has a child he has never met and pays child support for. Why has he never met him you ask, because his mother insisted on getting pregnant when she knew that my husband did not want any children at the time. And since my husband would not stay with her and he moved away she vowed to make his life hell and refused to let him see the child and forced him to pay child support. Now he is behind and owes back support and it has made our financial life extremely hard. My husband did not choose this, this woman chose it, so why should he have to pay! We say all the time that it is a woman's choice, but it was both the adults choice when they had sex. So it should be both adults choice whether or not to keep the baby. No abortion, I am pro choice I believe life starts at conception, but there are millions of people who want to adopt. Using a child to hold on to a man or woman is unfair to the child and all involved. This story is still in progress, the boy is almost 18 and we have never met him or even seen a picture. My husband has no idea how to start the process of a relationship after all this time. But we have a 6 month old and would like for him to know his half brother. But I agree with that this is a choice for both parents not just the mother.

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April 21, 2006, 6:32 am PDT

Men are not women.....

Until a man can carry a child for nine months and has the torment of the changes of a pregnancy, he CANNOT make these decisions.

I find it strange, living in Michigan and knowing about this case for a while now, that we actually have people in this country that would agree with this totally careless and unapologetic "kid" and stand up with him saying that he has "RIGHTS". PLEASE>>>>> I am so ticked off that I could scream.

How can you have sex with a woman, and NOT wear a condom in this day and age, and be so angry at the woman for getting pregnant???

He should be thankful that he does not have 25 million diseases and be grateful for ONLY for a pregnancy.

He guy..... Get off your "moral" and "give me MY rights" soap box. You had sex without a condom. DEAL WITH IT!!!

WHAT A JERK!!!! WHAT AN IDIOT!!! WHAT A COMPLETE BRAIN DEAD FOOL!!!!!

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April 21, 2006, 6:32 am PDT

dead beat dad

if that dead beat dad didn't want to be a father or wear a condom then he should have gotten up and walked away from the sex. You have to learn that there a consequence for your action and the only 100% gurentee is to not do it at all. I hope that when he sees this later he will know what he missed out on and how selfish he sounds. What would his thought be if she wanted to get an abortion and he didn't? Would he go down this same path? He is just trying to get out of the mess that he put himself in. He needs to grow up and be a man instead of playing house and then running like a little boy.

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April 21, 2006, 6:33 am PDT

It's a Shame

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Men... don't want to be a father? It doesn't surprise me, I know that. Now about an argument about a foolish debate about should men avoid fatherhood. If they want to do that, then don't get involved with someone. There is no such thing as men avoiding fatherhood, well... I should say they could probably do that but when that child grows up, they will hunt the father down like he was a moose, that's if he don't make any kind of contact to their kid.

It seems that more and more people don't want to own up to the responsibility of taking care of their children. What if one of your parents had treated you that way? Or aborted you, you wouldn't be here now...

A child is much more a blessing than it is a burden. I for one was happy to see this show and know that I am not alone. My first child is 8 weeks old and her father doesn't want to be responsible for her and i quote him as saying "I'm sorry I ruined your life". What strikes me odd is that most men that have these children, or get women pregnant, move on to the next woman to have 'recreational sex' and think/act as if this next woman can't get pregnant either. Sex was intended for procreation...if its time for the miracle of life, its going to happen regardless of birth control...etc etc...

If a man doesn't want to be a father he does have choices as women have choices...he can keep it in his pants and be abstinent, use a CONDOM each and every time, or he can get a vasectomy. The same goes for women. Most women aren't 'tricking' men into getting pregnant so she can have his finances. Give me a break. It is so not worth it.

And what men/women that pay child support fail to realize that it is much easier to make payments than to have to take on the role of being mommy/daddy to the child 24/7 365!!!

For all single mothers/fathers out there that are taking care of your children I say God Bless and much success to you, keep your heads up and know that you are not alone and things will always work out fine.

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April 21, 2006, 6:33 am PDT

rights for men

I just wanted to comment on the man who is trying to get out of the responsibilities of fathering a child. I believe since he is so shallow and cold hearted that he should not have to pay child support, also his child was concieved out of wedlock. It is a cold hard world out there and usually it is us women who have to rear the children by ourselves. She needs to just grasp the concept that he is selfish and is acting like a spoiled child who needs to be given his way and cannot own up to his actions. Guess she should have thought about that before she had sex with him. Most men don't want to be responsible for a woman they are not married to any way and vic a versa. I believe for this mere fact that she should give him his way. They weren't married but still it is hard to believe that he, a working man can get out of his fatherly responsibilities so easily. If she was involved with someone else I could see him pursuing this. He knows this child is his and should take resposibilities for his actions and simply BE A MAN, BE RESPONSIBLE AND be a father to his little girl. The facts are he is a father now. It's just sad that he doesn't want to be.

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