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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 12:48 pm PDT

04/21 Baby wars

The only way to ensure that you do not become a biological parent is to abstain from intercourse. If this young man was sure that he did not want to take any chance on conceiving a child he should not have had sex. PERIOD ! No contraception, short of sterilization, is 100 % effective. He was presented with a choice and apparantly, made the wrong one.  

   

 
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April 21, 2006, 12:48 pm PDT

Equal Rights

I understand that women get all of the choices but the fact is, they both made a choice and it created a beautiful baby girl. I am so happy that at least the mother is taking responsibilty to her daughter but am shocked at the father. Women do have choices to give up their children but it is so much harder for them. Usually they only do so in extreme cases, or so I hope (i.e. they cannot provide for them reasonably, or are not emotinally capable). Men don't form tha bond unless they are trying to. If they don't want to be a father they can go elsewhere and will never know the feeling of that wonderful life growing inside. After you feel that miracle there is no choice, at least for me, you can not give away family and I know how the mother feels. I was told I could never have a child and I am now holding my wonderful baby boy. There is always a chance no matter what doctors says, and it made me and my husband's dream come true! He should feel blessed that he was able to join in the creation of a life. And if he really wants out of it that bad, is $500 a month that bad to pay someone else to take responsibilty for his actions?
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:48 pm PDT

totally disagree

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What a self absorbed person he is. Don't want to be a father? Then stop having sex. You look totally ridiculous persuing this and I really feel sorry for your daughter. Yes, Your daughter, like it or not. Where do you get off turning a blind eye to that child. It seems that the mother would do better for her self the the baby by getting herself a real man. A REAL man doesn't ignore his responsibilites or his baby. You need to really grow up. I hope every woman in America watches this and doesn't let you near her. You may have to abstain from now on, as it should be for you.
At least he is totally honest and you don't have to wonder where  he is coming from. If he used protection and up front told the girl he was not ready to have children then he is not all that you have said. Maybe a real doesn't ignore his responsibilities but he is not saying that he wants to be a real man. The woman has the responsibility as well to check into who she is potentially getting as a baby father. He may not be ready to grow up why he said that he did not want a baby. He should have the right to choose just like a female does. Can we say the same for the female that she should have abstained before having sex and wanting the man to support a child that he does not and did not want from before conception. She needs to accept it for what it is and take care of her baby. If he does not want to be a part of the child's life that is his loss but she needs to do what she needs to do for her child. The child would be better off without him.
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:48 pm PDT

I feel sorry for the little girl

I would hate to grow up and find out my father didn't want me.  Its not her fault she came into this world unplanned.
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:48 pm PDT

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I believe that a womans "right to choose" comes from the fact that she has to experience pregnancy and childbirth.  The fact is that womans minds and bodies experience a greater impact and I agree with Dr Phil that people do not always know how they will actually feel until they are actually faced with the decision. 

  

Also, I hope the couple with the waking baby will lower the baby's mattress so he's safer. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 12:48 pm PDT

Where are all the MEN?

Unless a you have had a sterilization or entered into a formal contract prior to participation, any pregnancy that occurs as a result of choosing to have consensual sex IS BOTH PARTIES RESPONSIBILITY. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:48 pm PDT

Baby Wars

I'm a parent myself and can't beleive that this guy just because he is told that his g/f can't have baby's beleives that she can't.  There are people in the world who are told by medical experts that they are not able to have babys after years of trying, all of a sudden end up pregnant.  IT DOES HAPPEN!!!!  If he didn't want to have a baby that bad, then use your own protection.  Even B/C doesn't work all the time, it's only a 95 - 98% chance that you won't have a baby.  The guy has all the right in the world to not want to have a baby.  I bet you 100% that if he didn't have sex with her or if he used a condom, we wouldn't be hearing about this right now.
 

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April 21, 2006, 12:49 pm PDT

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So you want men to have the parity of being equally able to inflict the same heartbreak & powerlessness on women by being able force them to have an abortion.  This is vengence, not logic.   

   

Secondly, men who voluntarily have unprotected sex have not been "forced" to be fathers.  If a man doesn't want a child "forced" on him then get a vasectomy, use a condom, or keep your parents on.    

I want men to have equal reproductive rights, that's all.
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:49 pm PDT

Man with lawsuit against child support

I fully agree with this man.  As a woman I feel sometimes the law is unfair to men.  If she decided she didn't want this child he would have no say. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:49 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Quote From: hntradmin

The American male is seriously discriminated against by the entire legal system, especially when in the "Friend Of The Court System" The young man that was on the show with his attorney,  is fighting for his rights, laws are not equal between men and women when it comes paternity rights or during or after a divorce when there are children involved. 

  

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You are absolutely wrong!!!  Men have to make the choice before to NOT have sex or to practice SAFE sex.   No discrimination at all!
 
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