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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 12:43 pm PDT

Good thinking, at least there is some good people left in the world.

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Why do women get all of the chocies? Yes we ALL know what causes pregnacy and we all know how to prevent it. But WHY IN THE WORLD DO WOMEN GET ALL THE CHOCIES? Yeah, I know... It's your body. Well it's his life also. And no it's not the baby's fault, it's the man and woman's fault. Yet the woman has a choice to have or not have the baby. (Either way the child will be effected. By not having a father or having one who dosen't want him/her.) What if we start thinking about the tables being turned? What if the man wants the baby but the woman wants to have an abortion? What then? If women have choices, men should have choices. We as women want to be equals. We have faught for so long, and are still fighting, for our rights to be considered equals. Yet, we want to have the rules one way when it's in our favor and the other way when it's not??!! We can't have it both ways. We either consider the child a child and treat this child as if it were out of the womb OR we decide it's a choice and it's not a child until post-womb. We can't have both. We can't be selfish just because it's our bodies, just because we're the womb. Either it's a choice or it's not! After that is decided, then if it's a choice the man should have his choice, if it's not a choice and it's a child, then a father he should be able to refuse or use his parential rights! Brandy W, KS

You're absolutely right! 

There should be equal decisions made, but what can be done about disagreements on having children. Nothing but unfair laws. Thats why there is so much birth control. It's sad if you think about it. Children are miracles, making a baby takes a man and a woman. So really; find someone you love and do the right thing. Make a miracle! 

 
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April 21, 2006, 12:43 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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I got a woman pregrant when I was 19. She told me doctors had told her she was unable to get pregnant and would never have children. She got pregnant. I later found out that was her plan all along. She has been on the other side of the country in CA since my daughter was 3, she is now 12. I see her once a year if I am lucky and if I have the money to pay for it b/c she won't help pay for the travel costs. I am a paycheck to the mother.  

   

Men should absolutely have the same rights as women to choose whether they want the child or not. I wasn't ready and wanted to give the child up for adoption. It ruined my life. All the crap they teach you about all the so-called rights we have in this country is total B.S. Women prey on men, you better believe it and it's about time men get the same rights and opportunities that women have when it comes to children. And you can bet that if that was the way it was they would think twice before letting themselves get pregnant, knowing that they are going to be on there own. I would think that there is a really good chance that this change would dramatically reduce the rate of unwanted pregnancies in this country.  

Thats a shame she did that. But not all women pray on men, thats unfair to say. Unplanned pregnancies happen all the time!! Think about if you were that kid and your dad said he wanted to abort you because he isn't ready. Not so fair now huh?
No one is ready for an unplanned pregnancy, but its all in God's plan...if you dont believe in God, oh well. It still isn't your right to take away a baby's right to live.
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:43 pm PDT

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Every person who has decided that they do not want a child needs to open a Websters and look up ABSTINENCE!!!!!!!!
I fell that man needs to step up & pay for his child. If he didn't want a child WEAR PROTECTION!!!!!!!!
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:44 pm PDT

R U KIDDING ME???

I am still in shock that someone like this guy exists!!  I'm all for equal rights but where are our rights when men walk out on us and we are left to raise babies on our own??  Until men have to spend 40 years, once a month with PMS, periods, bloating, headaches, back pain, mood swings, bleeding for 4 days straight where the only break we get is when we are pregnant for nine months creating a human, we have earned our right to be the primary choice maker in this situation.  Do I think that men should have a say, of course, but she does carry the baby, period.  Mistakes happen, if everybody waited until they were completely ready to have children to have them, there would not be a human race.  You've made your bed, buddy.  Poor child having to come from your dna.  The best thing that could happen to this child is that you pass nothing of yourself down to her, she's being punished enough.  There is only one way to avoid having kids- do I really need to say it???  I bet you weren't complaining about choice when you were making the baby.
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:44 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

I was shocked when I heard some of the comments coming out of Matt's mouth on todays show!  Now, he may not have wanted to have a child, but he made a choice by having sex that he could possibly conceive a child with his girlfriend.  What ever happened to accepting responsibility for your choices and taking care of your own kids.  There are so many people nowadays that expect everyone else to take care of their kids because they're flat out too lazy!  It breaks my heart to see these kids who have parents that don't want them, love them or are too involved in themselves to care.  Unfortunately no one can control the choices others make or the way people perceive things.  

 

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04/21 Baby Wars

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amen, sister!!!!!
I second that response!!!
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:44 pm PDT

Irresponsible

Men do have a choice to be a father!  They can either protect themselves with condoms or not have sex at all!  For that young man to say that he didn't choose to be a father is just ignorant!  He made the choice to have sex (which is how babys are made...hello!!) and he decided to do it without protection.  And what about the child's right to have two parents that love and take care of them.  This young man is soooo selfish and because of his actions the child is the one who is going to suffer. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 12:44 pm PDT

To the husband who wants the fifthechild

I think you need to listen to your wife. She has already given birth to 4 children, Her body is tired and she is tired, she is the one investing the majority of her time into these children therefore she has every right to say no to wanting another child. Why not be happy and content with the children you have, invest your time and energy in to your family and quit wasting time on "wishing." giving birth is a privelege and a wonderful experience for most but it can wear a woman down. respect your wife here. Another option, maybe later you can adopt if she agrees that she could handle another child but to make her go through another pregnancy against her wishes I think would be cruel, Sorry men, but this one, I have to say should be up to the woman and this husband has no right to think that she should put her body through this again, hopefully after being on the show, they have come up with a good conclusion where both of them can be happy and content and enjoy their family.
 
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April 21, 2006, 12:44 pm PDT

Baby Wars

     I think this story is prepostrous. I think think this man needs to step up and take responsiblity for his actions. He says he didn't want a child, then he shouldn't  have had sex. Even though his ex-girlfriend says she couldn't get pregnant and she was on birth control, none of that it 100%. Nothing is full proof from getting pregnant except abstinence. He made a choice to lay down with her, he was taking a chance regardless. I think he just doesn't want to take responsibility for his actions, so he is trying to find a way out. There is a huge problem in our society with men taking responsibility for their actions. I think its very sad that our society has gotten to this point.  

   

 
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April 21, 2006, 12:44 pm PDT

Love thy child

As a father of three girls, I have fought for custody of one of my daughters twice and won both times. I am doing the right thing by my children. I do how ever respect what you are saying about not wanting the role of a parent. I have had days where i wish i had never had my kids but, they have feelings that you are stealing away from your child years down the road this decision of yours could really hurt them.
 
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