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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

Give Me A BREAK!!

This Matt is unbelieveable!!  The bottom line is:  if you have sex, unprotected, then there are consequences.     

I cannot believe that this guy is taking such a stand.  In the first place, this is about logic, common sense and reality.  No matter what you are told, or think, or believe, or want to believe, unless you were right there in the operating room when the woman had a hysterectomy, and you know for sure there is nothing to carry a pregnancy, then there is ALWAYS a chance of conception.  It is a known fact that the pill is not 100% effective. Condoms can break.      

Anyone with any sense knows that.     

Matt,  you have to take responsibility for your actions.  To waste time in court about this sends a sad message.  We aren't talking about a business arrangement or a contract.  This is about responsibility as an adult and the welfare of another human being. If you didn't want this hassle, then you shouldn't have performed the act that creates a child.    

If you don't want to be her father, fine.  You still have to be responsible, and accountable for your actions.     

No amount of rhetoric about legality, or "he said she said" garbage is going to change the facts.  People say and do a lot of things in the heat of passion.  You both got what you wanted initially.  Now it's time to own up to the consequences. When you gamble, sometimes you lose.     

I hope for the best for that beautiful little baby.     

      

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

Reverse discrimination?

Oh I feel so sorry for that poor guy who doesn't want to be a dad so he's started a reverse Roe vs. Wade lawsuit.   I know that it's so very difficult to give up privileges that men have had since the beginning of mankind.  It must be so difficult not to be able to go off somewhere with your cronies and tell how you were able to blow off some woman who was stupid enough to have your baby.  It's so much more difficult now that the stigma of  "bas*ard" doesn't  tend to place all the blame on the mother and child.  What an inconvenience it is that you might even have to provide some kind of support for the child.  For centuries men had no obligation to do that.  Yes, it must be very hard to have given up such hard-won privileges.  You did so very much to get them in the first place.  After all you were the one who designed that extra musculature at puberty assuring physical superiority over most any woman who disagreed with you.  You also were one of the ones who made sure that laws and governments favored males for centuries.  Yes, you absolutely MUST battle your way in court to see that we return to the past that so favored your warlike, insensitive natures. It's just what the world needs as it grows smaller and therefore potentially more volatile.   Or maybe, just maybe,  what the world needs is for those who have not had to grow up because they have always had everything handed to them due to some small appendage,  to really grow up and develop that sensitivity and more peace-loving nature that actually is not only their potential but their destiny.  Try it, you just might like it.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

three stooges

Dr. Phil- 

           I have watched many shows in the past and cannot ever remember being this pissed about a topic as this one. Matt, you are a "dead beat" dad and I feel so sorry for the baby and mother but, it may be the best thing for both of them that you are not around. for the fellow with the golden locks, do the world a favor and have them cut! your theory is an embarrasment to the real men in the world. Finally, for the lawyer, how can you defend such a pathetic way of thinking? Both of them had a choice and Matt failed to be responsible. The mother thought (and I say thought) she couldn't get pregnant it happens all the time. You three need to stand up and be men and except responsibility for what's real in life. It makes me sick to think this kind of trash breathes my air. 

  

Thanks for listening- Clint 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

Two sides to every story

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This guest can't know how ridiculous he sounds with his defense.  He had a hard time answering the question to him about denial the the child is biologically his.  I don't know why it is so hard for him, his attorney, and the representative from that national organization to understand his responsibility in the conception of that child.  We all know that the only guaranteed form of contraception is to abstain from sexual intercourse.  I don't understand this side of situations like this.  It's another situation when a woman manipulates a man to conceive but it's another thing for him to automatically believe that the odds of mistakes happening do not apply to him.  They are using the "unlevel playing field" between men and women for the wrong purpose.  This is going to be very damaging to the child once she is old enough to understand why she doesn't have a father who claims her as his own.  Besides why should he have the choice to abort, abandon, or put the child up for adoption is his body is not the one suffering the toil of giving birth?  I'm a social work major in college, and hearing him defend himself on the grounds that he did infuriates me.  It was obvious that the welfare of the child means nothing to him, and this child is once again another statistic to feed into negative perceptions of the women using the welfare system.

I am a woman with 2 children of my own. Great father was involved from the start. 

My son however was married and in the process of getting a seperation when his wife (who was on birth control) decided that a baby would keep the relationship together. Now after many years he is not seeing this little child (both parents moved to other locations). But the relationship lasted one year after the child was born and then broke up. My son is still paying child support and had no say as to having a baby when his marriage was in trouble and he was trying to get out of it. The child has been used for years to punish the father in more ways than child support payments.  

All women do not have a baby for the right reasons. Thanks for listening. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

Men's choices

This is for Matt: I don't think that you should have any choices now.  You should of thought of it when you were fixing to have sex with the Mother of your child.  It is tooo......LATE NOW!!!  I feel like you should be responsible for the child, she is yours.  If you choice not to be a part of her life that's on you.  It takes two to make a baby.  It doesn't matter what she said about whether or not she could or could not have kids you know how they are made.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

Talk about imaturity!

Give it up Matt!  

   

You decided to make love to someone and if she got pregnant, you are responsible...this is not a miracle baby!  

   

IF you did wear a condum, and there was a small hole, to which the eye could not see, would you still be this ignorant and stupid and say "I am not ready to be a father"  

   

WELL...how about then NOT MAKING LOVE!!!   

   

IF YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE LOVE, THEN YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH FOR THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT COME WITH IT...LIKE A BABY!  

   

If this guy wins, I will definitely feel like the government can be sucked up to more than I think already.  

   

Give it up...be a man and be responsible!  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

i couldn't believe my ears

It makes me so angry about matt. He should've taken the responsibility to use protection instead of relying on what she said. Instead, he didn't and now there is a beautiful baby that he wants nothing to do with. That just infuriates me.  He should have kept his legs closed. He is very selfish and not thinking about that baby. All he is thinking about is himself. He made the comment that the baby should've and could've been put up for adoption, but how would that have made her feel when she gets older to  know that her mommy and daddy didn't want her. Thank God her mother loves her and chose to keep her. I have 4 children- 9yrs, 7yrs, 2yrs, and 4 mths and only 1 of the 4 was actually planned. I could never imagine life without any of them. God has a reason for everything and I think that Matt needs to step up and be a man and take responsibility for that little girl whether he chose to be a dad or not.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

These dad's don't know what a real problem is.

As a mom to three beautiful children one of which has special needs.  It is sad to see dads going on strike.  That father really doesn't know how lucky he is to have a beautiful wife and two healthy children.  Having the kids in bedroom is not the end of the world !! if that is his biggest problem he does not know what real problems are!!!  My personal experience was that at 3 months my child was in an NICU... try cuddleing with your wife when that is the case.   

  

Or when my baby finally came home try having an oxygen tank and saturation monitor  in your bedroom on your baby and waking to ensure your baby is breathing and the alarm of the stat  monitor.  My husband and I would have love to had our little girl home at three months and biggest worry being having her sleep though the night.   I'm sorry but i have no pity for this man!!! GIVE ME A BREAK he should be ashamed of himself and learn to appreciate his family and start changing diapers and catering to his wife.   It sounds very selfish to me he should wake up appreciate what he has and how lucky he is.    

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

What a Jerk!!!!!

I was a single mother of my daughter for over 4 years.  Her father is in the military and that is the only reason I receive what little support I do.  I haven't seen him in 5 1/2 years and my daughter has never met him.  He wants it that way.  He has the same attitude as the selfish KID on TV.  He is so worried about his constitutional rights.  What about hers?  So since they disagree on having the child who wins?  The woman is stuck with being pregnant for 9 mos and now raising a child in a single parent household.  You don't often see a baby in a single father household.  Who is he to demand that she should suffer and risk an abortion or tear her heart apart and the struggle of having to give the baby up for adoption?  She has a voice too!  I agree with the other messages.  Everyone knows that the only 100% guarantee for birth control is NO SEX at all!  I know first hand that raising a child isn't easy.  He complains about the $500 a month that he has to pay.  It cost more that $500 a month to raise a child.  My child care alone is over $500.  Being a parent is priceless and I wouldn't trade it for the world.  My daughter and I were better off without her father in the picture.  She will be 5 next month and I'm still  battling to receive child support.    

I think this KID needs to grow up, grow some real kahunas and be a man.  He made a conscience decision to lay down with her then he needs to me man enough to take care of his ejaculation!  

 

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April 21, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

baby war

 I don't think this is an issue of this guy not having rights. He obvisouly has the right to make excuses for doing what he did. He was excited, so he ingaged in sex. He did his "big boy" duty and told the girl, " I am not ready to be a father, so as long you can not get pregnant, and I need to release some stress, I guess we are good." COME ON!!! Are you serious?! Is this about rights or is it about finacial responsablities? That precious baby was concieved for a reason. My husband and I having been trying to have a baby for a couple years now and I must say, I am grateful with the old fashion way , love and God.To many people take for granted what they have when others pray with their heart and soul just have a some little person to love every minute, every second, of everyday. This is very sad for this little girl. Maybe she will be better off without this " MAN "  

 
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