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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 1:46 pm PDT

Matt Dubay ~ Fatherhood

If this guy doesn't or didn't want a child . Then He better and should have kept it covered.   

This way he has control. He cann't blame his girlfriend, he should have kept the condom on.  

I don't feel sorry for him,I feel sorry for his daughter.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:46 pm PDT

Roe V. Wade

Regarding this matter... 

  

I believe that this man needs to stop his crying about not wanting to be a father and take responiblility for his daughter.  I could give a crap if he wants to be a father or not.  It takes two people to make a baby and two people to raise one.  If he didn't want to be a father he souldn't of been having SEX without protection, it only takes one time to make a baby, something this so called man doesn't understand.  He makes me sick and he is just like every other little twirp that can't keep it in his pants. When a baby is made he runs screaming for the hills. He needs to get off his rear end and take care of his daughter like a real man. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:46 pm PDT

stupid guy

how dare he think that just because he didn't want this baby it makes him not responsable for this child! Mens rights my foot!!!! If you don't want a baby KEEP YOUR PANTS ON! That is the only way to ensure their will be no child. I'am a child of adoption. My entire life I wondered why my parents didn't want me why I wasn't good enough but their other kids were. I still had a wonderful childhood, but now that I have children do you have any idea how hard it is to explain to them the truth?! Grow up. The chioce to have sex was just as much hers and it was yours, you new the risk you took. Be a man, take care of your baby. This has nothing to do with rights it has to do with the fact you still want to be a child yourself. People like you do not deserve oxygen!!!!!! Do not put this baby through anymore then she is already going to go through.
 

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April 21, 2006, 1:46 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Honestly,  I can't believe that this guy Matt is doing this to his child.  He doesn't seem to care how this is going to affect his baby in the future.  If he didn't want to be a father then he should have wrapped it up!  He is responsible for himself.  Everyone knows that if you are having unprotected sex you are taking a risk of becoming a parent, whether you THINK there is no way you can get pregnant or not.  Men like Matt who think they should have the same rights as the woman are out of their minds.  Women have those rights because we carry the child, we deal with the emotion and the pain.  I think the real reason he is doing this is because he doesn't want to grow up.  If you can't be responsible enough to except parenthood then don't do the deed that creates children.  Anyway, he will regret his decision in the future.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:46 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Although I feel that Matt made did make some valid points, it seems to me that he is so caught up in being legally  'right' , that he has forgotten what is morally correct. Instead of trying to change the laws to get out of a sticky situation, perhaps he needs to accept his situation for what it is and try to educate other men so they don't find themselves in the same situation.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:46 pm PDT

Take Responsibility

I think what bothers me the most is that men (not all) want to have the fun, but they do not want to take responsibility for their actions. I agree with Dr. Phil when he said that this young man should have taken responsibility and have used a condom. I know that they are not 100% reliable, but neither is the pill. "It takes two to tango." So the young man should either suck it up and be responsible for the child, or just sign away his parental rights. Actually, I feel the child will be better off without this young man.  

  

 As a woman, who found myself pregnant and the biological father took no responsiblity whatsoever, I know exactly what this young woman is going through. I never asked the biological father for any form of support and he never offered. My son is now a young man, who has a very bright future ahead of him. He served his country for six years and is now getting ready to go to college to be a lawyer and maybe, eventually, serve our country as a politician.   

  

Quite frankly, if the biological father is acting this way now he is no use to that child and I feel the child would be better off without him in his life. I did not hear what this young man's parents thought, but if it were me I would want to know my grandchild and would want to be a full time grandma.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:47 pm PDT

the man with the lawsuit for mens legal rights

I have to say I do agree with Dr. Phil about the fact men can wear a condom to protect themselves from having children.  However there are times condoms break.  I do think that the woman should have legal rights afterall it is her body and she is the one who has to be pregnant and go through all the ups and downs that come with that, not to mention she also has to give birth. And there are many deadbeat dads out there, on the other hand there are women out there who get pregnant intentionally just to trap a man.  This is a very controversal topic. Curious to see the outcome. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:47 pm PDT

well he one that give men a bad name!!!!

the way i see it there really is no choice once there is a child involed he should be able to say that he does or dosent want to be a father before him and her had sexual intercourse.  cause now he has a ex whos beautiful and he has a baby and needs to be a man and stand up and take action he might have said that a long time ago bout not wanting to be a father but it doesnt matter it a mans responsability to take care for any actions they do.  even if i had an ex that i had a baby and she me her didnt get along i would make sure that baby had everything the he or she will need because it would be my responsibility because i would have taken the step to create them and i would be there for them.  i belive he needs to wake up from the dream world hes living in stop fuseing bout not wanting to be a dad.  and be a dad cause no matter what he the dad will always be i just dont see how he thinks that his baby will understand that he was being forced to be a father, because latter in life when he wants to know where his farther figure is at so he has someone to look up to and he sees how sorry his dad is i couldnt let that happen i would do everything to be that shinning light in my sons and daughters eyes so my advice to him is he needs to grow up and be a man and stop be a sorry excuse for one. i have more comments but ill wait to get them out let me know if yaw agree  

  

shane 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:47 pm PDT

And baby makes a good weapon

I am so tired of women jerking men around by their ******, using an innocent child as leveridge and using the bleeding heart courts as whipping posts.   

  

If a women wants to be a parent she needs to be able to support that child or children on her own.   

  

Who is she going to get child support from if he dies with no life insurance?   

  

I am a woman, a mother of 2 grown, successful children.  I was married when they were born but divorced soon after.   

  

AND I NEVER ASK FOR SUPPORT.  

  

 I did not want to answer to any one for the way I raised my children. I think one secure, confident, at peace with their place in the world parent, is better than two immature, spitful, vendictive people.   

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:47 pm PDT

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I feel sorry for the poor girl. He was stupid enough to not use protection and it is his fault for getting himself into this situation. If you are mature enough to have sex, then you should be mature enough to deal with the consequences arising from having sex, such as the baby. He needs to quit acting immature and get on the bandwagon. Who does he think he is? And the doctor from the Men's Center... what a crack! He is completely stupid and shows absolutely no sense. And as for him having children...let him know that with the way he is and with his views, no woman will ever want him. 

           

 

Women have wanted equal rights for years,they have burned bras and everything else in between demanding to be equal to men.When a man and woman lie down together,they both know what the consequences could be,so i say why should the man have to pay when they are equally responsible?women today ,not all but a lot want to have babies because they want to use the welfare system to make a living for themselves,i know personally some women from my town have made it a point to live off the system.where this comes in at is the system will get a girl who is pregnant and sign her up for food stamps afdc and medicaid before she's a month gone.then they stress to her ,you can't get this any more after 5 yrs. unless,unless you get pregnant again.the girls go get pregnant again and thus they live off the system as long as they can have children.i think that we should help at least the first yr.of a chils life and then let the woman know that after that she will have to get a job and go to work to help take care of that child.she should be as responsible as the man in having to work and care for it.there is no such thing as it being the mans fault.Nobody told her to spread her legs,that was her choice.I say this because i am a mother of 2 sons that have to pay child support.one of them had a girlfriend that was 22 abnd he was 16,she got pregnant and for 5 yrs.told him the child was not his because she was afraid of going to jail,the minute he turned 21 she slapped child support on him and he was treated like a common criminal because the child support was behind,get these women off welfare and to work and there'll be less babies for the government to take care of.if you take away the food stamps,afdc,and medicaid,they won't want the babies,the babies are just a means for them to use to not work. 

 
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