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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 2:04 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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The young man should be able to file suit against the mother for misreprentation, especially if the mother does not have a proven medical condition.  It is disturbing if she in fact misled him changing the entire course of his life.  The problem becomes, "if he doesn't pay for the child", we as taxpayers may burden a financial impact if the mother needs government assistance.  I see his point and truley support his position, but we as a society should not be responsible for "him trusting her".  We all make mistakes we are responsible for.  On the flip side of that is, women do make choices as a result of roe v. wade and society can still be burdened if public assistance is needed.  Where do you draw the line.  Since her misrepresentation had a financial impact on him (since he now has to pay child support), he should file suit against her for damages. 
Excuse me, I don't know if you're male or female. However. you aren't seeing both sides. It is completely irresponsible of both of them to have un protected sex. Though they did reproduce, it is STILL his responsibility to take care of the child as well as hers. They BOTH made a mistake and they BOTH should pay for it. You aren't seeing "both sides." That's complete b/s. There are plenty of women out there that have been diagnosed not to have children from doctors and those woman have had a miracle child. Doctors aren't always right. He's a moron for putting a lawsuit on this issue, it is totally and completely absurd. She made the choice to be responsible and take care of the child, like most normal adults should do. He's being childish about this and crying. What freakin' damages?!?!?
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:05 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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Men, need to grow up and take responsibility..  If they want to have unprotected sex than they can be responsible for the kid.. Don't want the responsibilty than DON'T HAVE SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  If you don't want kids, get fixed, how hard is that.... But, don't take it out on the child.. It's not the childs fault that you can't be man enough to grow up and take your role as a father.. There are so many people out there that want children that can't have them, then you hear of sorry people like this... Grow up Man!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the responsiblity of the women is......where?
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:05 pm PDT

Baby Wars

OK life happens!   He really sounds like a miserable little boy, who is selfish and uncaring!  Of course I hate to pass judgment!  Just glad he is not my son..   I would hope I would raise him better.   Know matter what!  There is a child at stake!  A child who will eventually grow up!  Think of the pain this child will feel knowing that her biological father did not and does not want her.. Pitty!!  

  

My opinion is: Men can have a choice on what a women does with her body, when they grow ovaries and can actually have a baby.  Until then, which will never happen..   They need to take control over their actions.  Birth control is not 100%.   That was a risk he obviously was willing to take..  I consider him responsible.   Yes,  a women does feel different when she is pregnant.  Opinions do change...Hello!!! 

  

 I am glad the mother is willing to continue with the lawsuit, because there can not be anyway  he will win!  I PRAY!!!!  After that I would cut ties with him and get sole custody,  eventually he will want this child in his life..   Its just a matter of time after all the Publicity  wears off and he realizes its not a joke this child will not go away.   Of course that is the vindictive side of me..  How dare him  deny a Innocent child an opportunity to know her father.  It is not her fault, that is the BABY!!!!.     

  

Of course I find it hilarious and not surprising that the man that represented Men, whatever the name is, did not have kids...  Probably a women hater anyways or can not have children!     

  

LISTEN!    Women and men can not ever have equality in this area.   We are the only human being that can carry and have a child,.       Sorry guys...   

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:05 pm PDT

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that guy on the show today who was mad because he feels like he's being forced to be a father needs to talk to my boyfriend. my boyfriend is only 20 years old, we are in the exact same situation, and he is stepping up and being a man because he has decided to be a father to his child. we were together for about 1 1/2 before i concieved. i was diagnosed with endometriosis and was told by my doctor that i could not get pregnant. so we decided together to stop using protection, probably not the best decision looking back now but what's done is done. i ended up getting pregnant only a week or so before i went in to have surgery to remove scar tissue that was causing my infertilization. we had discussions early in our relationship about having kids. neither of us were sure if we wanted children and agreed that if we did have any it would be in the far off future. so when we found out i was pregnant, we weren't exactly thrilled. we thought about and discussed our options and decided together to have the baby. he said many times durring those discussions that since it's my body it is essentially my choice. but i feel that it is something that affects both of our lives so it's both of our decision to make. anyway, we still dont feel ready for parenthood and we are scared out of our minds but we both feel we are doing the right thing. how could i know i was going to get pregnant when a doctor said i couldnt? the same goes for that guys ex. these things happen. no one can predict it. that is life. and that guy needs to face it. that little girl hasnt done anything wrong and deserves to have her dad in her life and deserves all the love she can get from both parents. grow up, be a man.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:05 pm PDT

WOMEN HOLD THE FINAL "BABY" DECISION

I FEEL THAT EVERY PERSON HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAKIING BIRTH CONTROL DECISIONS, ESPECIALLY IN A CASUAL SEXUAL SITUATION.  ULTIMATELY THOUGH, I  FEEL THE RESPONSIBILITY OF A PREGNANCY LIES WITH THE WOMAN.  I BECOME PREGNANT IN MY EARLY 20'S AND ACTUALLY MARRIED THE FATHER.  I TOO, THOUGHT  I COULD NOT GET PREGNANT (WHERE DO WE YOUNG GIRLS GET THIS IDEA?)  THE MARRIAGE ENDED IN DIVORCE.   MY EX-HUSBAND HAD A 9TH GRADE EDUCATION AND WAS LIMITED IN HIS ABILITY TO EARN , I ON THE OTHER HAND HAD TWO COLLEGE DEGREES AND THE POTENTIAL TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF MY CHILD WITHOUT ASSISTANCE.  I CHOSE TO NOT SEEK CHILD SUPPORT AND  FINANCIALLY TOOK CARE OF MY CHILD MYSELF---AFTER ALL I WAS THE ONE THAT CHOSE TO HAVE SEX WITHOUT PROTECTION.  MY SUGGESTION TO THIS YOUNG LADY, FORGET CHILD SUPPORT, GET  THE FATHER'S PARENTAL RIGHTS TERMINATED AND  RAISE THE BABY HERSELF.   IN THE LONG RUN IT WILL BE THE EASIER ROAD  FOR HER AND HER BABY.         
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:05 pm PDT

sleep wars

I have 4 children ages 6 and under.  My youngest who will be 1 in May still wakes up once during the night.  I've tried the sleep lady's routine but it's hard because my daughter shares the room with my husband and I.  I would love to move her out of our room but until we move into a new house that is not a possibility.  I can't ignore her with her being in my room.  What do I do?  I'm soooo tired I'd be willing to try just about anything.  After chasing her and my 2 and 3 year olds around all day I need all the sleep I can get so I'll be ready do it again the next day.  Any advice would be great.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:05 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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I cant believe this kid is on TV talking like this about an innocent child and actually has backers.  Everyone knows the consequences that could happen if you have sex (protected or not).  If he cant handle them then don't have sex - Period!  They both went into it, now they both need to deal with it. 

And furthermore, not only could he have been wearing a condom, but he should have pulled out! 

Seems to be he is just rallying to be another deadbeat dad. 

Obviously the lawyers are just in it for the cash too...too bad he'd rather spend it on lawyers than on his child.  What a loser this guy is!
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:05 pm PDT

Men should have the same rights as Women do.

   

 I think that men should be able to not have to pay for a child that they dont want. Its not right that women  trick men into it.  There should be a law to protected men against women like her. All she wanted from him is money, I  could never do want she did to that poor guy she should be a shame of herself she calls herself a woman she acts like a child herself.  I'm never for men I'm always for womens rights but this time it was wrong for her to do that to him.  I really hope that he wins his case because there should be a law from them.   

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:06 pm PDT

Baby Wars

OK life happens!   He really sounds like a miserable little boy, who is selfish and uncaring!  Of course I hate to pass judgment!  Just glad he is not my son..   I would hope I would raise him better.   Know matter what!  There is a child at stake!  A child who will eventually grow up!  Think of the pain this child will feel knowing that her biological father did not and does not want her.. Pitty!!   

   

My opinion is: Men can have a choice on what a women does with her body, when they grow ovaries and can actually have a baby.  Until then, which will never happen..   They need to take control over their actions.  Birth control is not 100%.   That was a risk he obviously was willing to take..  I consider him responsible.   Yes,  a women does feel different when she is pregnant.  Opinions do change...Hello!!!  

   

 I am glad the mother is willing to continue with the lawsuit, because there can not be anyway  he will win!  I PRAY!!!!  After that I would cut ties with him and get sole custody,  eventually he will want this child in his life..   Its just a matter of time after all the Publicity  wears off and he realizes its not a joke this child will not go away.   Of course that is the vindictive side of me..  How dare him  deny a Innocent child an opportunity to know her father.  It is not her fault, that is the BABY!!!!.      

   

Of course I find it hilarious and not surprising that the man that represented Men, whatever the name is, did not have kids...  Probably a women hater anyways or can not have children!      

   

LISTEN!    Women and men can not ever have equality in this area.   We are the only human being that can carry and have a child,.       Sorry guys...    

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:06 pm PDT

Pay the consequences...

When two people have sex they are BOTH responsible for the consequences. If he did not want to have a child he should have abstained from having sex.  

I believe I heard this man-boys lawyer state that the Roe vs wade victory did not lead to an extensive rise in abortions....ridiculous considering that abortion in this country is responsible for more human death than the Holocaust !!!! Wake up America and take responsibility for your actions!!! 

 
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