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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 2:22 pm PDT

100% not the father - then don't have sex!

Methods and the Typical chance of getting pregnant..... No form of birrth control =Chance 85%. Spemicides =21%. Periodic Abstinence (Calendar , Ovulation Method, Sympto-thermal, Post-ovulation) = 20%. Withdrawal = 18%. Cap = 18%. Sponge (Parous Woman, Nulliparous women) = 18 to 28%. Diaphragm = 18%. Condom = 12%. UDI (Progestasert, Copper T 380A) = 3%. Pill (Combined, Progestogen only) = 3%. Injectable Progestogen (DMPA, NET) = 0.3 to 0.4%. Implants (NORPLANT (6 capsules), NORPLANT-2 (2 rods)) = 0.4 to 0.03%. Female Sterilization = 0.4%. AND FINALLY Male Sterilization = 0.15% INFO FOUND ON vasectomymedical.com So Now I think we know the answer.... NO MORE SEX FOR MATT!
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:22 pm PDT

Fooled Father

  The fact that they had discussed the reprecautions of pregnancy, and how it was not a great time to have a child, should deter any legal action taken against the father. The woman should not be allowed to renegg on her decision to not have a baby. If anything, the father should be charging her with breach of verbal contract!  Too many woman are having 'cute little babies' just to say they have them. It's almost like an accessory in some cases. Leave the father alone. He made his position clear much before the night of conception!
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:22 pm PDT

Many Adult Males are DOGS

Please note.. I did NOT call them MEN in the title.  Real men step up and face their responsibilities.  Matt, on the other hand is an fully grown child... worse, a DOG.  Having raised three daughters without ONE pennies child support, court ordered and NEVER paid, I feel like an expert on the subject. 

  

 

  

  

 

Furthermore, I am raising my severely autistic grandson. This because when his mother (my traumatic brain injured daughter) told him that she would get an abortion because she didn't think she was ready to have a child and their marriage was VERY rocky.  He threatened her and basically forced her to have the child.  Halfway through the pregnancy he was beating her, raping her and throwing her down stairs because she "moved too slowly."  She left him when the baby was 20 days old and has lived with me ever since.  I am supporting them both.  He has paid $15.00 in child support in 2 1/2 years.  This child is 2 1/2 years old and is severely handicapped.  He has not made one attempt to communicate in any way, no mimicking sounds, not walking... this boy needs a LOT of help!  I feel quite certain that his condition is due to the abuse that the mother took during the pregnancy.  He also took the child off his insurance and his therapies alone cost close to $2,000 a month... my burden! 

  

 

  

  

 

These fathers all had rights... they INSISTED on having these children.  Then they ALL abandoned them emotionally, financially and otherwise. 

  

 

  

  

 

My philosophy has been simple.  I step up and assume the responsibility.  No court, no hassles.. just let the dogs run and take care of the babies.  The fight is NOT worth it because it only adds legal fees and stress and worry to the already difficult situation.  However, in my opinion, this country is seriously failing it's children by allowing deadbeat dad's to avoid the financial responsibility of the children they created. 

  

 

  

  

 

Whether a man chooses to be a father or not is his choice UP FRONT... practice abstinence, use protection or step up and take care of the child. 

  

 

  

  

 

Matt, shame on you!  That baby looks identical to you... sweet and adorable.  How cold and selfish can a human be?  You are despicable!

  

 

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:22 pm PDT

Disturbed about a father's concern.

I am very shocked at what I heard from this man about not wanting his child. I am pregnant, and I would be completly crushed if the father of my child, whether he was my husband, boyfriend, even just a guy friend didn't want to have anything to do with our child. I see his point about the equal rights, and he seemed like a nice man, but how could anyone evil or not, want nothing to do with something that is a part of them. A child is a wonderful gift to me.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:22 pm PDT

Baby Wars

You know it takes two to tango. I could not believe what Matt was saying. I believe he has a lot of growing up to do. He needs to think twice before he has sex!!
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:23 pm PDT

Inconsiderate men.....

I see this as....if he didn't want to be a father then he should have thought about that before he had sex. He had the options of wearing the condom and not having sex at all. In having sex and then taking off the condom, I believe that he gave up his constitutional rights. There were a lot of precautions that they both should have take, but it wan't done. I do know a little about this because I got pregnant by accident when I was 18. He wore the condom and the condom broke. I made the choice to have sex. The way I see it is that the child didn't ask to be made so the child had no choice in the matter. That is one reason why I see that abortion will never be an option. I had my child and now I have a little girl that just turned 3. The coincidence of the matter is that her name is Elizabeth, too. She may have been a accident, but I will never tell her that because she is the best thing in my life. I am proud to say that her daddy was man enough to stay by my side and is still her together with us.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:23 pm PDT

choices made...deal with the outcome!!

It is impossible to make the rights of fathers and mothers equal when deciding what to do about a pregnancy when each wants something different. Although no contraception is 100% effective, when the choice is made to not use any forms of contraception then you are making a conscious decision to risk an unwanted pregnancy, reguardless of what someone may tell you concerning their fertility. Considering his attitude, this child is better that he is not a part of her life. The mother was beautiful, she will meet a real man that will accept her child, and be a real father. Any man can make a baby, but a real man makes a father. I'm sure there will be alot of regret on his part if/when he decides that he is ready to have a family. The bitterness he feels over paying $500 a month in child support may have been spared if he had spent $10 on condoms. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:23 pm PDT

Even the law can't force him to be a father

Sadly, the law won't protect baby Elizabeth much anyway.  Men who don't want to be responsible fathers...aren't.  They don't pay their court-ordered child support, they don't care about their children, and they just disappear anyway.  I think the law needs to be stricter when it comes to enforcing court-ordered support from ANY parent (mother or father) that walks away from their children...planned or not planned.  Anyone old enough to have sex consentually is old enough to know that there is some degree of risk of pregnancy even with the best of birth control.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:23 pm PDT

Be a Man

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MATT MADE THE UNCONSIOUS DECISION TO BECOME A FATHER WHEN HE CHOSE TO HAVE SEX.  THERE IS ALWAYS THAT POSSIBILITY!!!  HE NEEDS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE, BE A MAN AND FINANCIALLY SUPPORT HIS DAUGHTER.  IF HE CHOOSES NOT TO BE A PART OF HER LIFE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN HER BEST INTEREST SINCE HE DEFINITELY WOULD NOT BE AN ACCEPTABLE ROLE MODEL IN HER LIFE.
  I agree Matt needs to step up and do the right thing. it is part of him as well as her,and it takes two to tango. I see it all around today with high school children ending up being parents at way too young of an age. This is for everyone,even adults you need to think things through,before you do anything. This world is tough enough as it is with out having an unwanted child being thrown into the mix.  
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:23 pm PDT

Stand up for yourself

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I am in the same predicament as the mother on today's show.  I am now pregnant for a man who was so hot for me just a few months ago.  Now he's saying that he wants nothing to do with this baby, and that the only way he will consider child support is if I have a paternity test.  I am willing to have the test (if only to shut his dumb mouth), but part of me is questioning the point of fighting with him, when he doesn't want the child! Do I really want to go through all of that stress, for a man who doesn't want to be involved?
You and your child deserve support from the father.  If he is like my daughter's father he lives on the other side of the country, wants nothing to do with her.  I'm fighting for court ordered support right now because he pays $322 a month.  Hardly enough to make a dent.  But every little bit helps.  Every child needs a mom and a dad.  He needs to help you and you deserve the help.  Girl, you fight for everything you can.  It isn't easy being a single mom but it's worth it.  Good luck!!! ;)
 
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