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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

i think matt is right

 the woman does have a lot of choices more than men. i think all he wants is to be a true equal,the whole deal of well he decided to have sex well they both did and he believed she could not get knocked up why should he pay for her lies? would the child rather have a father that loves her or a father that hates her and feels that she ruined his life? one parent can raise a child alone,happens all the time. so the kid will not really suffer from that think of Matt as a unwilling sperm donor.i think he should win and i will pray to god that he does. if she did not want to raise the child alone she should have found a man that wanted to be a daddy then.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

baby wars

I am appalled at Matt.  I feel that as soon as he decided not to wear a condom his choice was made.  I had the same thing happen to me..mind you I was in a 10 yr relationship..but for me I had an allergy to the pill..and I was told that there is no chance of me having a baby...but I got pregnat 2  times I lost the baby in my 3 trimester..finally finding out that I had endometriosis.  My mate of 10 yrs of course there was no condoms and I couldn't use the pill....when I told him I was pregant there was complete joy on his face...when I lost the baby..he cried with me.  A man has to stand up for not wearing a condom..this court case of  "opt" out of being a father.  The condom is his choice..even if the female is taking the pill.   That is just being a coward..his ex-girlfriend was probably told the same thing as I was...only difference is she carried it full term.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

It takes two

When I was 23 I was told by my doctors that I couldn't have children.  I never told my boyfriend this, he refused to wear a condom, and I never worried about it.  Well the doctors were wrong!  I got pregnant.  I decided I wanted to keep the baby and I'm glad I did.  I never considered his feelings, I told him from the beginning that he could have as much or as little to do with the child as he wanted.  He was a very sporadic parent, he did have child support payments ordered  by the court (he said he wanted to pay child-support).  We rarely got it and it was a very small amount anyway.  When I got married six years later my new husband and my son got very close and the bio-dad had dissappeared, so my husband adopted my son.    

   

My husband and I are divorced now and he pays childsupport.  He's never late, he pays xtra for medical, etc. and never complains, although he moved from GA to FL with no reason, just wanted to take a job out of state, so he never sees my son, and rarely calls him.  The bio dad showed up after the divorce and now wants a relationship and a say-so in how my son is raised.  He has never mentioned the fact that he doesn't pay child support and has never offered to pay child-support.   

   

I don't think either one of these men are good father's, but both of them have a responsibility to my son.  My child didn't ask to be born, and he deserves better.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

Hmmm....

I think men DO have a choice in having a baby.  The kid could have made the choice to keep his pants zipped up - that's the only sure fire way to prevent an unwanted pregnancy.  Shame, shame, shame on him. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

Baby war and men

I do think that men have a choice when it comes to haveing babies they can choose not to have sex with someone.  Pregnancy takes 2 people not just one.  If you are not ready to have a child don't have sex or be smart enough to protect yourself.  Yes it is true that protection is not 100% but it is better then not takeing any percautions.  Men should not always trust that when a women says she can't get pregnant.  There is almost always a possibility.  Men and Women take the time to have sex and they should BOTH take the time to protect themselves and or be responsible for a child.  Reguardless of the fact they say they don't want to be a parent yet.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

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   Wow!!!  Didn't a big flashing neon sign go off when you told Dr. Phil that she said "I can't get pregnant" and "I am on birth control"?  Gee, if you can't get pregnant why on earth are you on birth control? So there is your sign. When I was a teenager from 14-18, and I am 47 now, I remember stories girls told their boyfriends that they couldn't get pregnant. How on earth, being that young do you for sure know that you cannot get pregnant unless you have been through some extensive testing? You were misled and naive. I do agree that you should not be the father of that child, not only because you were misled, but also, if forced to be something or someone you don't want to be, could cause bad consequences for that baby. A lot of pressure will be put on a man that doesn't want to be a father, could lead to child abuse. Also, if you can have such a thing as a prenuptual agreement, then why not a presex agreement? It will happen one day, as much as this world is changing.                                     Good luck to you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Carol from Bradenton, FL
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

what? Sweet mom

I have no idea what you're talking about
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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For one I hate to be the one to break it to you but it doesnt take a lot of convincing for a guy to not use protection. You make it sound like she made this big presentaion about her condition.  Which I am sure didnt happen. Second of all I seriousy doubt the conversation they had about having kids didnt take more than 5 minuets. And thats with kissing inbetween words. I also think that it is not the girls right to have child support. It is the CHILDS right. That child no matter how it came into the world has a right to support even if the father decided that he dont want that child. Do you have kids? Because I have 5 and one of them is my step daughter and one is a daughter that I had previous to my marriage.  Are all you people saying that if my husband chose to leave me then he could just go and not be held responsible for the children that we have? That all he would have to say is that he didnt want them in the first place? Cause if Matt wins this that is what this is all going to come down to. If you have sex then you have to pay the consequences. And Matt had sex no matter what she said WITHOUT protection. If he was that against having kids then he should have protected himself.  Helpless and Pathetic??? Thats exactly how he is acting.

I feel the same way.  If you don't want to be responsible for a child then don't have sex!  

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

Baby Wars

I am ready to go through the TV at this guy who says he doesnt want to be a father to his baby......If you DONT want to have a baby then YOU take the steps you have to to get that done.....If he didnt want to have a baby he should have used a condom or better yet not have sex at all....He says the woman has the choice and he doesnt...well he had the choice to keep his pants zipped up and he had the choice to use a condom.....the one that doesnt have a choice is that BEAUTIFUL baby that was brought into this world....So I hope he enjoys his life without that baby ....cause he is missing out on one of lifes most precious gifts of all....
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

Matt the dead beat dad

 

  

 

 

  

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I would like to say first that I think that Matt is a UN fit parent and should have to pay child support just for playing the victim role.  He is not the victim the baby is. So what the girl said she could not have a baby, I have a brother and like he said he was the fool.  If he knew he was not mentally, physically, emotionally, or finically ready for a baby the he should have strap up.  Then the man who said that the woman should give the baby to a family who has a mother and father that is a bunch of bull s--t.  Why should she give up her baby?  Plenty of kids come from a single parent household and are wonderful kids.  Look at me and my brother. My mother raises us and did a damn good job. We are both in school, and about to graduate. I will be finish in six months and my brother will be finishing next year. He will be a physical therapist and I will either apply to pharmacy school, are become an occupation therapist. My mother did all this without my dead beat dad.  Matt is a poor excuse for a man, he knew right from wrong. His lawyer is in it for the money and if not the money for the fame. I think that this law will leave a lot of kids without fathers. God knows we have enough kids suffering right know without their fathers or a least a father figure. Matt should think about his daughter and what she will think when she get older and how kids will be tease her in the long run. Matt is being selfish and like all the other dead beats just don't want to have to step up to the plate.  He should not win this case and I hope and pray that he loses.  If he wins this will just give men what they need to walk away from their responsibilities and in most cases it is the men who want the babies and when they get here it is another story. I have three girls and there father is a dead beat. So I feel sorry for the baby and for her mother. Matt makes me sick and he should be ashamed of himself. I wonder what his family thinks. I know if they have any decent icy in them, they can't be please. Matt needs to grow up and stop living in lala land as the rest of the dead beat father do.

  

 

 

  

 For the man who said that babies should have both parents, he is right. But when one parent opts to leave that does not mean that you give your kids away. I am a great single mother of three girls and balance work, school, and parenting with no problems. A lot of my single friends call me supper woman. I don't call their dad for nothing. I don't care if he doesn't ever see them, take care of them are anything. Like my grandmother always say “You Cant Miss Something You Never Had".  That is so true. So Matt little girls will grow up to be an exceptional child, and then he will want to claim her. What he does not know it will be too late. Why do I say this, because it will come a time in that girls life were she will stop wanting to have a father who doesn't love  her or who didn't want her, and except who has been their and who will always be their her mother. It will be too late for Matt, because I am that little girl who father left and know am doing something wonderful in life and wants to come back. I can forgive but right know can not forget. It is too late for my father.

  

 

 

  

 

  

 

 

  

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