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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 2:37 pm PDT

Father's Right to Not Pay-Rediculous

This is to the father that was on the show with his lawyer.  This father said that his civil rights were violated by not having a choice in the decision of having a child.  He therefore thought that he should not have to pay for his child.  His reason was that he did not agree to have a baby, and should therefore not have to pay.  

   

Let's think about it this way:  People do not choose to get into a car accident.  However, when you drive a car, you know that there is a risk everytime that you get behind the wheel.  If a car accident happens, you have to pay.  It is not a choice, it is the law.  If this guy is going to have unprotected sex, he assumed the risk of pregnancy-regardless of the fact that the woman said she could not get pregnant.  Even if he wore a condom (which he did not), he still assums the risk.  I can be the best driver in the world, but I assume a risk when I get in the car.  I eve assume risk as a  passenger in a car.  He got this woman pregnant.  He must therefore pay for the result.  His rights were no more violated then the rights of victims of other "accidents."  And to shed a better light on this, no child is an accident.  That child was meant to be here.  He can choose to not be a part of that child's life-which is his loss-but he must financially pay for the consequences of his actions.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:37 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

I am a female but I think that Matt is correct. She lied about getting pregnant and he should not have to support this kid.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:37 pm PDT

Disgusting

I was completely disgusted at how Matt is acting in this situation and that is filing this lawsuit. First and foremost, nothing is 100% effective against pregnancy except abstinence. One of his arguments was that she was on the pill, which is not 100% effective. His other was that she had a medical condition which did not allow her to become pregnant. That is not an argument at all. She could have been lead to believe that she could not become pregnant, but a medical condition can change. I have known people who were lead to believe they couldn't conceive and years later had been able too. If you are having sex you have to ALWAYS be ready for the possibility that you could become pregnant. Matt is obviously someone who just dozen;t want to take ownership of the situation, and be a Father...
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:37 pm PDT

Matt--what's fair?

I noticed that Matt didn't want to hold his baby, or see her.  It appears to me that he KNOWS what is the right thing to do.  He's too AFRAID to even see his baby knowing that it IS a part of him.  He figures if he doesn't see her, he won't feel guilty about abondoning her.  Sorry, Matt, but it will catch up with you. 

  

Don't be a coward Matt.  If this is really the stand you're taking, go see your child.  Then tell me what's "FAIR." 

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:37 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

 Obviously there are a lot of young uneducated children out there having sex and children.  But the guy on the TV today seems fairly intelligent in an arrogant way.  I do believe if you are old enough to have consensual sex than you should take responsibility for that action.  Yes she does have control as to what the outcome will be.  The way the father of the child acted today on your show what woman in her right mind would want that jerk in her life and the baby's life.  Talk about being in complete denial.  He needs to suck it up and help financially with the child.  It isn't about the baby with this guy it's all about the money.  I'm sure his attorney's are not cheap.  You would think he would take all that money and effort and help with HIS child.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:37 pm PDT

Matt? Not a pleasant man!

People should not have sex unless you're married!  Isn't love-making suppose to be between two people who love each other?  A child shouldn't get in the way between true love and if it isn't true love then why are you having sex!  Problem solved!  It's your child so you must support him.  If you don't want to be a father, then leave women alone!  She said she couldn't have children but miracle babies happen.  I have a friend who is one so this man is full of balogna!  The baby needs support.  It can't help itself.  Life does start at conception.  To me women shouldn't abort their children and if you can love and support your child, then keep it.  Why killing a child is legal, I don't know.   

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:37 pm PDT

Think before you act!!!

This gentleman should of thought about his responsibility before enjoying his night of fun.  Many ppl do not think that they will suffer consequences.  This guy is just as responsible as the mother is.  He actually made me sick looking at him. If I was the women that he CHOSE to have relations with, because of his comments, arrogance, and feelings I would take him to court so fast his head would spin.  No condoms are not 100% but I do not believe in this day in time of so many options of contraceptives I do not believe in accidents. There is no excuse.  I do understand where he is coming from. But, if you make your bed you have to lay in it.  Man up to your responsibility. this guy is just trying to get off easy and not take control of his actions.  This child does not deserve this.  This child did not choose to be born but, since he is here everyone that created him should take responsibility for him.  He has made me so mad that I can hardly gather my thoughts.    

Re: the guy who wants to have one more---- This man obviously does not know what kind of strain, fragile state, and toll pregnancy takes on a women.  I truly do wish men could have children then they would understand.  He works 6-7 days a week and she takes care of the children ---NO WONDER he wants another one, he is not responsible for the ones that he has.  He brings the check home and that is it.  This women has every right to NOT have another child if she does not want one.  More women should realize when enough is enough.  Maybe he should be with some of these women who live off the government and have child after child.    

This show was actually very aggravating.  Think of all the good they could do if they took all the energy wasted on this and used it for something that counts.    

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:37 pm PDT

he does have a choice

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Matt is 100% right.  His constitutional and privacy rights are being viloated.  In this day and age, HE CERTAINLY SHOULD HAVE A CHOICE!   

  

I URGE EVERYONE TO SUPPORT THIS!  WRITE YOUR LOCAL CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS AND TELL THEM TO SUPPORT ROE vs WADE for MEN. 

  

  

  

  

  

DO NOT HAVE SEX!!!  KEEP HIS PANTS ON!!  USE A CONDOM...BUT THE IS NOT ALWAYS FOOL PROOF!!!  WHEN HE CAN CARRY A CHILD HE WILL GET THE CHOICE.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

COP OUT

First of all, for any man to expect for a woman to get an abortion or put a child up for adoption against her will is completely ridiculous.  Nobody should have the right to make a decision like that for anyone else.  Secondly, the idea that this guest expects to be excused from paying child support  just because he wasn't "ready to be a father", is completely obserd.  He had no problem engaging in sexual activity in which he knows is how a child is conceived.  Nothing is guaranteed,  I had problems for years getting pregnant & thought I too wouldn't be able to have children, however, I just gave birth to baby boy 2 weeks ago.  The same goes for birth control.  If you aren't ready to be a father, then you better stop having sex! 

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN

I can't say that I don't agree with this gentleman. For many years, women have purposely gotten pregnant  to make that "catch". Yes, the child suffers and its sad.  

If they had married for the sake of raising a child together and didnt get along, then end up divorced AFTER the child KNEW His/her dad... its better how? The child is still being raised without a dad. I have watched over the last 30 years many children strive through unhappy homes, broken homes and they all seemed to turn out ok......whats NOT ok..is women who DONT take their share of the responsibilty for the proper measures for SAFE sex....why is it always HIS FAULT?It takes TWO.. 

  

The laws have needed to be changed for years.....Recently Georgia put into effect starting in July....BOTH incomes matter in deciding child support amounts.....After seeing many men and second families do without while she remarries and has the child support to spend friviously....its a good change..Congress needs to make women as responsible as men...... 

 
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