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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

On Matt's Side

I am on Matt's side.  I think men should have their rights too.  Women fought for YEARS to get theirs, why leave men out?  If this women wanted to have the baby, then she should take responsibility on her own.  She obviously knew that Matt did not want any kids, especially after reassuring him that there was absolutely no way she could get pregnant.  I hope Matt wins this and doesn't have to pay anything. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

SPARE ME

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Matt is 100% right.  His constitutional and privacy rights are being viloated.  In this day and age, HE CERTAINLY SHOULD HAVE A CHOICE!   

  

I URGE EVERYONE TO SUPPORT THIS!  WRITE YOUR LOCAL CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS AND TELL THEM TO SUPPORT ROE vs WADE for MEN. 

  

  

  

  

  

My God, there are more of them!
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

This Guy Should Grow Up

The idea he should have any say about what a woman can do with her body or child is out of line.  

 If a man does not  want a child he should use protection or keep his zipper up!!  

  

Judy G in Florida 

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

Child rights trump father's rights

This really isn't about male or female rights. This is about the baby's rights. The child has a right to be supported by both of its parents and neither parent can force the other to place the child for adoption.  This guy is just trying a new twist on a very old song and he needs to start supporting his child and grow up.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

this is a joke...

  Yes, women have more rights in term of what they can do when they become pregnant. But it is also the right for the woman to discuss it with the person that she is being sexually active with about what would happen if a pregnancy occurs. For a man do decide that I did not want to be a father right now so I do not have to care of the child. This is just ridiculous! That should be something that is known to be a result of having unprotected sex, babies are made by sex and if you can not be man enough to put the two and two together and be a man and take responsibility for your actions in creating the child, then you should not engaged in the sexual activity, unproctedly or just get the operation so that it can not occur. If you do not want to be a man and take care of the child that you created then just pay the child support and do not get involved or get involved you never know your idea might change after you hold the child maybe you will realize that you can be a father and you want to be a father to the child that you created. No one said you have to be in that childs life, but he should look at the fact that when that child gets older whether you want it to happen or not that child might just look for you and then what are you going to say I did not want you then I do not want you now. It is the most selfish thing I have ever heard of a man wanting to do, what would he have done if he found out that his father felt that way about him. This type of action will result in such psychological problems for the daughter that he created and psychological problems for future children if this law were to be recreated for those rights for me. Women do have all the choice but the men have the input to help in the decision that the woman decides to make and it should be discussed openly as soon as pregnancy has occured.

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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  The fact that they had discussed the reprecautions of pregnancy, and how it was not a great time to have a child, should deter any legal action taken against the father. The woman should not be allowed to renegg on her decision to not have a baby. If anything, the father should be charging her with breach of verbal contract!  Too many woman are having 'cute little babies' just to say they have them. It's almost like an accessory in some cases. Leave the father alone. He made his position clear much before the night of conception!
I totally agree with the father after all she fooled him a relationship is supposed to be about trust I  am glad to see that a man is finally doing this. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

Absolutely Insane

This man that does not take responsibilty for HIS child is a complete chauvinist.  To him, he should be able to "screw 'em and leave 'em" without any reprecussions; his little world strongly resembles the dark ages when women were conisdered property and women were, many times, left alone to take care of the children.  In reality, men are supposed to take responsibility for their actions; this man had unprotected sex and believes it is not his problem and his sperm created a baby.  That child shares DNA with him and how exactly does he think she will feel when she grows up and realizes "daddy doesn't love me"?  As far as blaming his ex for telling him she could not have children and then turing around and having a child, it is not her fault.  Every medical doctor in the world could have told her she was infertile but medicine is not always correct; it should be a blessing that she is able to have children.  This idiotic pig should get over himself and help pay for the child he created. 

   

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

He Isn't a real father

I can't belive that Matt would take this to court. He is the 'sperm donor' (a term my mother coined for my biological father). He will never be a true father to the baby because of what he is doing right now. It's horrible, he dosn't even give a damn about his baby. 

When Dr. Phil asked if this would open a trap door for fathers who don't want to be father's, Matt's attorney said No. I don't belive Matt's attorny, I DO think that we will see more of these cases. I think Matt has opened pandora's box. Deadbeat fathers will jump on this like flies on crap. My biological father (sperm donor, basically) dosn't want a thing to do with me. Even when I was little I always got the feeling that I was not important to him, and that he didn't care about me. I'm 21 and since my mother's death this summer of cancer, I KNOW my statement about my biological father is true.
Now we don't really know the truth on wether or not Matt's ex girlfriend trapped him into pregnacy or not. BUT Birth control isn't always used right, and if you don't take it at the SAME TIME everyday your chances of getting pregnant are greater. BUT Matt should've worn protection. If you aren't married you should always wear a condom, or just don't have sex.

I really hope SOMEONE is thinking about that beautiful baby in all of this commotion and legalality.




...that's my take on this.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

babies

 IF you do not want a baby ( Man or woman) USE some kind of protection! You'd think an ADULT would know that!   

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

Baby Wars

As a mother of 2 girls, and one of 4 daughters, I bet you would assume I would agree with Mom;  WRONG!  

   

If someone lies to you, and knowingly can have children I do not agree that the partner whoever it is should be held responsible.  You are responsible for your actions!  If you go into a situation positively thinking that a) you do not want to be a father and inform Mom of that b) you have been informed that Mom cannot have children  c) Mom is taking birth control pills for another ailment, then why should you be responsible?  

   

Why is not Mom responsible for lying on 2 counts?  Why does she not take responsiblity?    

   

I know most people would say "think about the child" why did the Mom not think about the child she could bring into this world.  Did she honestly think things would change when the baby came?  How many wives thought they could change husbands once they were married?    

   

Don't you really think it's time that women might be held accountable for their actions and that by being a birth Mom doesn't give them clear sailing?  

   

My thoughts anyway!~  

 
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