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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 3:02 pm PDT

YOU PLAY, YOU PAY!

Why did Matt not consider NOT having sex and then he can insure that he will not become a father until he is ready. I am so worried about all of the children brought into this world with fathers that do NOT support them. WE have so many people on welfare and those welfare checks do not go far enough that children still go hungry!!!!   

   

My questions goes to Matt why are you having sex if you are not ready to become a father?  Matt how do you think babies are made?  I think that Matt's parents need to explain to him the facts of life.    

YOU PLAY, YOU PAY!    

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:02 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

This is a ridiculous case that unfortunately is not surprising.  This young man and his misguided lawyer are simply following down the slippery slope introduced by the widespread acceptance of contraception.  The lawyer's contention that Roe v. Wade did not have the huge ripple effect of abortions that some thought it would is appalling!  Where did he get his information?  4000 abortions are performed each day. 

  

The contraceptive mentality this society has is telling.  50 years ago, no one would have dreamt that making love did not have as a possible ramification of making you a parent.  And that is the way it still is and should be.  People who are not commited to each other (and some may say I'm old-fashioned here) in marriage should not be having sex.  Sex is a pleasurable act, but it cannot and should not be separated from it's procreative act.  This young man should not have had sex if he did not want to be a father.  It is that simple. 

  

Further, I do not believe the way to level the playing field in "reproductive rights" is by taking more away from the innocent child.  A father should not be allowed to abdicate his responsibility because he made some disclaimer beforehand.  The mother should not be allowed to abort a child because it has become inconvenient or because it was unexpected.  She should also not be allowed to give up her child for adoption unless the father agrees as well.  If you are going to have sex, you must be ready to take care of the child. 

  

As for the man who wants more children...  He should grow up and get off the roof.  If he wants more children and his wife does not, he should be of more help with them so that she would feel comfortable welcoming another child into their lives.  Marriage and parenting is a partnership.  You don't always get your own way, but you have to work together and compromise.  You need shared values and a common goal.  When you want different things, you both have to make sacrifices.  That is what marriage and parenting is about.  He needs to behave more maturely and think of the family that needs him to lead them. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:02 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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I chose not to be a father, and protected myself accordingly.  This woman lied about her cycle, and asked me to not use a condom, assuring me that she was in her safe period.  After pregnancy, she admitted to me that she lied about her menstrual cycle in order to get pregnant . She admitted that she knew she was ovulating, even though she told me initially that she was sure she wasn't. She told me she wanted to  draw me "closer to her"  She has aked for my forgiveness.  When I refused, she took legal action to force me to be a father.  How can she deceive me into getting pregnant and still have the law on her side.  

I have a question for you.  Why did you give in and not wear a condom?  If you know what the consequences are then why did you give in? 

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:03 pm PDT

MY OPINION

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I chose not to be a father, and protected myself accordingly.  This woman lied about her cycle, and asked me to not use a condom, assuring me that she was in her safe period.  After pregnancy, she admitted to me that she lied about her menstrual cycle in order to get pregnant . She admitted that she knew she was ovulating, even though she told me initially that she was sure she wasn't. She told me she wanted to  draw me "closer to her"  She has aked for my forgiveness.  When I refused, she took legal action to force me to be a father.  How can she deceive me into getting pregnant and still have the law on her side.  

i think if you didnt want children you should have wrapped it no matter WHAT she said. you have to be responsiable enough to care for your own body. dont leave your own bodies care to another. every action has a consequence weather good or bad.
 
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April 21, 2006, 3:03 pm PDT

I agree with Stevers, but I support Matt.

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I would have posted my message earlier but I had a 3yr old to take care of.  I'm holding her in my arms & trying to type at the same time.  When I first heard about this story about Matt on the radio on my way to work.  When I got to work I went to the Internet & read the story.  I then posted a message  about the story.   

I do not know how to express how mad I am that this man thinks that its illegal for him to have to pay child support because he told the mother he didn't want to be a father.  How many woman tell the men that they don't want to be a mom & get pregnant?  I have so many emotions going through my head & have no idea where to begin.   

I was not ready to be a father when my daughter came along.  That didn't mean I was going to abandon her.  This guy is a real jerk!!!  If he doesn't want to be in the child's life thats his loss but to sit on that stage & say that his rights were violated because he is made to pay child support is absolutely ridiculous.  At least his face will be seen by millions of viewer's & hopefully other women will stay away from him!  

I'm very sorry for who ever reads this, I am having a very hard time putting my emotions in writing.  There is one last thing I would like I am a father & very proud of it.  There is nothing I wouldn't do for my daughter.  I would gladly give my life to save heir's!!!! 

Stevers, I have a son also. He's 11, and I've never regretted my part in OUR decision to have him. Sadly, she and I are now divorced, I see my son 8 days a month, and I've paid every nickel of child support. I would have 3 more kids if I could, but I can't just go down to the "egg bank" and get some eggs. Biology is unfair, but the law shouldn't be unfair too.  

  

I support Matt's case, because I too want an equal right to choose. I want the right to choose LIFE, I want to be able to KEEP the baby. If she wants to terminate her pregnancy and parenthood, I say she can't kill my baby, but I wouldn't expect or ask her for a dime of support once the baby was born and in my care. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:03 pm PDT

legal age

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I'm only being half sarcastic with this comment:

Perhaps from this point on we should all be required to carry a legal contract around with us so that in the event we meet someone and decide to have sex, we can both sign it and have it witnessed before going ahead with sex.  It could say something to the effect of, "In the event of pregnancy resulting from this sexual encounter, I _______ hereby make it known I have no/every intention of being a parent."  By signing, both sides would be making a legal agreement beforehand so that situations where one person wants the child and one doesn't don't happen.  It might make people more stop and think before they start removing their clothes...
Then you would have to be of legal age and probably wouldn't have to worry about having a problem!
 
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April 21, 2006, 3:03 pm PDT

Don't Want to Be A Father

If you don't want to be a father then you should not be having sex.  Only a responsible male adult would have sex and use protection of a condom 100% of the time also knowing that there is a chance that the condom is not 100%.  When you decided to have intercourse you made the decision at that point there could be the possibility of a pregnancy.  So why take that chance of 1% if you definitely have no intention of being a father at this time in your life?  It all goes back to your choice to not have sex, that is the only 100% guarantee. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 3:03 pm PDT

constitutional rights?

I am so surprised that he feels that they are violated.  He had sex without protection, what did he expect??? 

  

Another way to get out of paying for his mistake, he needs to keep it in his pants if he can't be man enough to take care of his child!!! 

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:03 pm PDT

yay

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 OK...Young ladies (w/o HUSBANDS) watch out. If you decide to have unprotected sex w/boyfriends ,lovers and/or married men and get pregnant and the court approves this law, you better get a full time job, get a skill and be prepared to support your child on your own for the next 18 (sometimes more) years.
Maybe this will be a good thing. Young women will have to think twice before jumping into bed and  think about the consequences. Now they know that they can bring the baby's daddy to court for child suppose.
I could not agree with you more
 
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04/21 Baby Wars

Quote From: kidadainga

I'm only being half sarcastic with this comment:

Perhaps from this point on we should all be required to carry a legal contract around with us so that in the event we meet someone and decide to have sex, we can both sign it and have it witnessed before going ahead with sex.  It could say something to the effect of, "In the event of pregnancy resulting from this sexual encounter, I _______ hereby make it known I have no/every intention of being a parent."  By signing, both sides would be making a legal agreement beforehand so that situations where one person wants the child and one doesn't don't happen.  It might make people more stop and think before they start removing their clothes...
AMEN!!!!
 
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