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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 3:14 pm PDT

KEEP UR HEAD UP

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I have just recently just found out that I am pregnant with my third child.  My husband and I had discussed the possibility of a third but had said we'd talk about it "later".  My husband knew that I wasnt on any form of contraception, but was happy for us to have sex whenever he wanted to.  Now that I am pregnant he is saying that it is my fault and that this baby is going to be my responability in full.  Not to ask him to do a thing.  Since we had our two gorgeous kids his life hasnt changed a bit.  I do all the nappy changing, feeding, bathing - the list is endless.  He hasnt even gotten up once during the night and our kids are 3 and 2.  He still gets to go out with his friends, socialises and I am always left at home.  I dont mind this, but is it too much to ask for the occasionally hand.  I have an ultrasound next week and he wont even come to it with me.  it really hurts me that he is rejecting this child.  i have told him to get used to the idea or he knows where the door is.  I love my husband very much, but to me his behavior is a deal breaker.  Am I right in my thinking?  What I should I be doing to make this work out for the best?  And to make it easier for my other two children - My 3 year old is already picking up on what his father is saying and keeps telling me he doesnt want  a baby.  I just know what to do. 
HONESTLY PREGNANCY IS HARD ENOUGH I KNOW THIS AND I FEEL FOR U.  BUT IT  SEEMS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO WAKE HIM UP IS TO SHAKE HIM UP.  I THINK U KNOW WHAT U SHOULD DO BUT ARE SCARED.  IF HE REALLY WANTS TO BE MARRIED AT ALL HE'LL AGREE TO COUNSELING SO U CAN SETTLE THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND.  IT'S ALMOST LIKE HE FEELS HE HAS NO CONTROL, AND DOES THESE THINGS BECAUSE OF THAT.  I THINK U BETTER GET HELP AND SOON!  JUST REMEMBER U HAVE A SAY IN THIS MARRIAGE, U HAVE TO BE HAPPY AND STABLE TO RAISE UR CHILDREN.
 
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April 21, 2006, 3:14 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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Women get a choice AFTER conception so men should have that same choice.  Equal rights for all not just for women.
"Equal rights for all..." Except for the children?
 
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April 21, 2006, 3:14 pm PDT

baby wars

  

 i think that guy on today 's show is a big jerk, you play you pay. why cant he just sign over his rights. 

 i want to ask him what if is father did that to him.. grow up jerk i hope you lose in court. 

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:14 pm PDT

Equal Rights for all

 It's not fair that men get no choice.  I am for equal rights for all.  A man cannot even adopt his OWN CHILD if the woman wants to abort.  Something need to change.  In the meantime, each party should protect themselves - and expect the unexpected!  OR, here's a thought, GET MARRIED!
 
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April 21, 2006, 3:15 pm PDT

Father's Rights

 Whether agreeing or disagreeing in this situation, it is encouraging to see a stand being taken and discussion taking place on "father's rights". .... It is a topic long overdue and should be more in the spotlight.
 
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April 21, 2006, 3:15 pm PDT

What a fool!

This kid ("KID" being the operative word) that's suing for his right not be forced to be a father should have thought about his "rights" before he made the "choice" to "make love" to a woman he obviously wasn't in love with. Someone once said that sex without love is nothing more than "domestic rape". Maybe someone ought to put this guy in jail for rape. In my opinion, he violated her rights sexually.  If he isn't man enough to marry her, then he isn't man enough to make love to her. She's responsible too, but they used each other sexually, and now an innocent child is paying the price for it. If this guy found out a year from now that he was sterile and could never have another child other than this baby, would that change his attitude about this beautiful little girl? I am 39 and can't even find a girlfriend, this guy has everything I could ever dream of having, and he's throwing it away voluntarily. Like I said in my subject line..... WHAT A FOOL!!!   Just so you know,  RIGHTS EQUAL CHOICES, but CHOICES DON'T EQUAL RIGHTS!!!  Questions/remarks, please feel free to post!!  

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:15 pm PDT

Some benefits of this approach...

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I'm only being half sarcastic with this comment:

Perhaps from this point on we should all be required to carry a legal contract around with us so that in the event we meet someone and decide to have sex, we can both sign it and have it witnessed before going ahead with sex.  It could say something to the effect of, "In the event of pregnancy resulting from this sexual encounter, I _______ hereby make it known I have no/every intention of being a parent."  By signing, both sides would be making a legal agreement beforehand so that situations where one person wants the child and one doesn't don't happen.  It might make people more stop and think before they start removing their clothes...

(1) If you have good recordkeeping habits, you can always find out how many sexual partners you have had, what their names were, and how many encounters you have had with each (unless you modify the form to cover any sexual relationship with the undersigned person).  

   

(2) When you contract HIV from promiscuous sex it will be easier to get in touch with previous partners and tell them to get tested.  

   

(3) You can find out real quickly whether the person is really interested in a long-term, committed, frivolously sexual relationship—or whether they really want to be in your life for 18 years or more.  

   

Yes, I can see where such a document has an upside.  

   

Respectfully,  

AuldSoul  

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:15 pm PDT

Men have the right to choose to be fathers

Of course, abstinence is the best way, but is it realistic?  Sex for the sake of sex should always be practiced with contraception, unless of course, you are in a committed relationship and are in a position to assume the responsibilities of parenthood, if pregnancy results.  With privilege (and sex is a privilege!) comes responsibility.   In the case of the young man who has chosen to deny his parental responsibility because he says he told her up front that he did not want to be a father, and she assured him that she could not become pregnant, is within his constitutional rights,  just as the woman's right to terminate the pregnancy without his permission would be within her constitutional rights.  She is as much to blame as he is.  Maybe, even a little bit more.  Why?  Because all females know they hold the ultimate power over males, especially when the prospect of sex is a factor.  I can't imagine many men stopping to say, "wait a minute, let's be practical about this."   The plight of fatherless children is just as much the female's responsibility as the male's, sometimes even more.  My oldest daughter is 30, and two of her close friends chose to have babies (boys) , not marry the fathers, and have made it their mission to make the fathers' lives miserable.  And I'm supposed to feel sorry for them and support their right to punish the guy?  Not a chance.  What they have done is behave irresponsively, deprive their children of fathers, and make an impoverished and dysfunctional childhood a possibility.  Worst of all, they openly demonstrate hatred for their fathers, and who knows what thay does to a male child?  Make him loathe his own maleness?  Scarey.  Women's lib may have accomplished equality in the workplace and in the voting booth, but it seems to have turned women into scheming, immoral, vindictive creatures.    Men are the people they love to hate!  If men are the promisekeepers, then surely, women are the promisemakers.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:15 pm PDT

Dead beat Dad...he didn't have a choice!

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This "Matt" guy has to be the definition of a dead beat Dad.    The amount of money he is paying for that lawyer, is probably equal to the amount of childsupport he SHOULD be paying for this child for a year or more.   

  

He is making a laughing stock of himself....does he really think he's going to get a serious date after this?  I mean,  what woman would want him.  If he is willing to do this to his own biological child, what would he do if he needed out of a serious relationship?   

  

At this point he is making what I think is probably the biggest mistake of his life.  That child is eventually going to find out what he has done to omit himself from her life. He is going to have MAJOR regrets once he finally realizes what he has done.  Has he even seen her?  I'm sure that once he does he will have a different opinion of this.   

  

How someone can look at their child and not feel love for them or at least some strong connection is beyond me.   

  

I think right now he is enjoying his "15 minutes of fame".  And ruining HIS life in the process.  I honestly hope he loses this battle and has to pay double, for torturing this mother and child. 

I think you missed the point...this guy never had a choice about having the baby, where is HIS right in all of this?  Just because he doesn't carry the baby means that his right is thrown out the window, and the woman gets to make all the decisions??? I completely disagree.  I think this is a case that needs to heard, and I'm very anxious to see what the outcome is.   

   

P.S. I don't think he'll have a problem getting a 'serious date', but maybe I'm the only one that agrees with him!  Hopefully the next woman he dates won't be misleading, and maybe he'll be able to find trust in the next relationship!!!   

   

   

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:16 pm PDT

Too late...

That poor baby girl is an exact replica of the father who is trying to disassociate himself from her...there will always be a part of him living on in the world...how can he not be drawn into that?  His avoidance of the baby shows how unsure of his stand he really is.  I dare him to just hold her, then try to walk away....   

What a miserable life he has already set up for that child.  Does he think she will grow up fine knowing her father made a federal case of denying her?  That poor baby girl.....  

 
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