Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

And if the government stopped footing the bill then we'd all have to make better choices. Government assistant was brought about to help but then people started having babies to live off the system crying that their babies need to be feed. Well we who have two feet and a heart beat and where able to enjoy creating the child in the first place should enjoy financially raising our children on our own. I've been a tax payer for 17 years now. I have friends who live off the system and as a tax payer I'm sick of having to pay for children I did not bring into this world. I raised my children without help. And may I add on my own. My mother told me if I asked for help for anything other then health reasons and my grandfather found out....well lets just say **** would hit the fan. Maybe more of us should be doing the same.

The case where the young man thinks he was denied his  right of not being a father, but he made the choice to have sex, and maybe he needs to go back to sex ed and learn that sex is what causes babies.  I feel that abortion is wrong and that men do not have the same rights as women, yes I am a guy and feel this way...... but men are not the ones who carry the child and what if the women want to keep the child and the man dosent want who gets to have the so called right? We are forgetting about what is important here and that is the child. I come from a single parent home in which my dad was much like this young man...a dead beat.... I havent seen my day in 26 years and he has never paid an ounce of child support. The real reason behind this whole thing is that this young man is just a dead beat and dosent want to help support the child that he created, so maybe next time he will just wait till he wants kids to have sex after all that is tho only 100% sure way to not get pregnant especially if you dont want to be a dad.

Amen to that!!!!! I have 4 children and ya know we are the ones that are taking the risks that comes with pregnancy the diabetes hypertension and so on. He may have to pay child support  but he doesn't have to stay at home take care of the child take them to the doctor, go through all the ups and downs being sick, doing home work, don't get me wrong i enjoy everyday with my children and wouldn't change a thing, but this guy is a big LOSER!! He seems like my 4 yr old have a temper tantrum because he didn't get his way. Well suck it up buddy next time don't have sex or wear a rain coat-see you did have a choice.

 I don't think Matt has TRAINED TO BE a MAN. His parents should be ashamed of him and themselves. It embarresses me that he is of the same gender, what's he do in life, OH SOMETHING WENT WRONG, I'LL JUST WALK AWAY.

not paying $1000 a month? Lets see formula? go look at prices..diapers..ditto...day care...the clothes they outgrow doctor visits medical insurance, medicines it goes on and on for many years  geez your kidding right?

I ask you, are you saying men should be ABLE to tell a woman to kill her unborn child? Not that they can do so now, but that they should?

He chose to have sex with her. He should have protected himself. Now that playtime is over, he is crying foul.

Wrap that rascal or keep it to yourself.

Why dosen't the courts order fathers to just sign their kids butt when they drop them off to their mother, because thats all they are is a paycheck. I am a mother and i totaly agree that men should have choies and rights too. Until they outlaw abortions and adoption then men should be able to walk away too. It's sad to say that i don't know any dead beat dads, but every single mother I know I consider a dead beat mom! Woman trap men every day and use their children as paychecks and our wonderfull justice system not only helps them, but in some cases tries to force them. I have been divorced and their was a child involved plus I am re-married to a man who has been through court battle after court battle trying to get equal rights to his child that are automaticly given to the mothers, so I feel that, unlike these people who do not have children or have not ever been put in the situation (sorry Dr. Phil that means you too), I know what I am talking about on this issue. If  woman can not afford to take care of their children, then they shouldn't have them. When i got divorced i made half of what my ex-husband made and i agreed to split everything down the middle. I paid half of the babysitter, half for winter and summer clothes and half for any extra activities that we both agree to enroll him in. The judge still tired to get my ex to pay child support, because i made half of what he made! When i tried to refuse child support the judge told me the money wasn't for me it was for the child. I had to get my lawyer to draw up papers stating that my son had medical conditions that caused high medical bills, wich he dosen't, and my ex would pay all of the bills. By forcing fathers to pay for things against their will they just end up hating the mothers, wich is never good for a child, and fathers end up resenting the child for loving thier mothers who just use them as a paycheck. I have 2 sons and my 2nd girl on the way and i am not worried about my daughters dating or getting married, because I know they have all of the rights, but I am so scared my boys will have children and end up handing over their paychecks every week to the mother of  their children and not have a say in where their children live, go to school, or what daycare to put them in. Well I could go on forever, but I guess it is pointless, because I don't think things are going to change anytime soon.

I'm sorry, ladies, but I have to agree with the father on this one.......and you Brandy.  He was up-front with her about not wanting any children....she told him she couldn't have children and she was on the pill.  This wasn't just a one-night stand where he didn't use a condom....they were in a relationship.  For those who keep saying "he should have made the choice to wear a condom, or he should have made the choice to keep it zipped, etc" -- well, I agree with that too; however, she could have also made the choice to ask him to wear the condom, or she could have kept her pants zipped.  We can go back and forth on both sides of this situation all day long until we're blue in the face.  Both parties are at fault and responsible with her getting pregnant.  

   

Let's look at it from another angle....What if she had gotten pregnant and didn't want the child and he did?  She has the right to give that baby up for adoption, and again, the father has to sit back and say nothing.  In this scenario, you would have a man standing up, wanting to take the responsibility for what he did; however, he still wouldn't be able to have any say in it.  She has the power...not him.  

   

I, myself, have two children who I truly think would be better off if their father were NOT in their lives!  He's very destructive to them and it hurts me every day that he is a part of it.  If I were this mother, I would have welcomed the fact that he wants nothing to do with this baby.  Why force someone on her?  She would be better off without him....I'm sure she has lots of love around her already!  

   

Just my opinion..............  

   

   

 

I was talking with my husband about this issuw and he said that if he didn't want to be a father that he needed to either keep his penis in his pants or where a condom.  Don't rely on the woman for perfection.  I think Matt should step up to the plate and be a father since he made the choice to have unprotected sex.  I don't think it was fair of his ex-girlfriend to trick him but he made the choice to not have protection himself so he should pay for his daughter.  I don't believe that he should be made to have a relationship with his daughter just because he is her biological father.  Maybe there will be a man in her life that will be more of a father for her than her biological father who didn't want her will ever be.

He's a lucky guy that you fully support his efforts to be a deadbeat dad.  I hope the baby doesn't suffer as a result of parental choices.