Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

Okay, now let's take off the rose-colored glasses.  The majority of women who get pregnant "accidentally" do so to trap the men for 1 of 2 reasons:  1) a steady income for 18 years; 2) to get the man to possibly marry her or at least be under her control for 18 years. 

I have 3 boys.  I tell my oldest, who is 17, to always protect himself no matter what, because women will lie and try to get pregnant to trap him and to NEVER believe a woman when she says she has taken care of the birth control or that she can't get pregnant.  It's terrible that I have to teach him what liars women are, but there you go. 

The fact that your husband said " let's talk about it later" should have been a HUGE hint that he didn't  want another kid to have to provide for. But YOU chose to get preggers anyway, and now your angry that he isn't excited about it. What were u thinking?  

He doesn't help with the other two, so why expect him to be any different with the third?  

OK HOW ABOUT THIS..........DON'T WANT KIDS( WOMAN OR MAN)  

1)PROTECT YOUR SELF...WEAR CONDOMS(MEN) USE A DIAPHRAGM(WOMAN) BOTH AT SAME TIME.....OK 50/50  

2)YOU NEVER EVER WANT KIDS ....HAVE THOSE REPRODUCTIVE PARTS REMOVE FOREVER!! MEN GET YOUR BALLS SNIPPED ...WOMAN GET YOUR TUBS TIED 50/50  

3)BE RESPONSIBLE IF YOU HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX IT IS NOT JUST ONE PERSONS RESPONSIBLY IT IS BOTH PARTNERS 50/50  

OK IF YOU HAVE SEX UNPROTECTED MAN , WOMAN OR BOTH LIKE IN THIS CASE BOTH ARE RESPONSIBLE 50/50  

AND IF YOU BELIEVE THE OTHER MATE CAN'T REPRODUCE WITHOUT MEDICAL PROF... MAN OR WOMAN AND YOU STILL HAVE SEX YOU SHOULD BE HELD FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS MAN OR WOMAN PERIOD! 50/50  

So raising a child without benefit of the father being there thats not a responsibility. Oh good to know I guess all these single moms raising the child by themselves some working two jobs just to make ends meet because the father won't pay his child support well they are just foot loose and fancy free. 

Heaven forbid we teach our boys (and girls) to postpone sex until they are in a loving committed relationship. 

HIS PENIS...HIS SPERM...HIS ACTIONS ..*HIS RESPONSIBILITY*  

HER VAGINA..HER EGG....HER ACTION....*HER RESPONSIBILITY*  

= THEIR RESPONSIBILITY   

CHILDREN ARE GIFTS AND THEY SHOULD NEVER COME WITH PRICE TAGS!!  

BUT I BELIEVE THAT MAYBE THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE  

IF YOU ARE NOT MARRIED AND OR OF CONSENTING AGE ......WE START CHARGING A FINE FOR EACH BABY THAT BOTH SEX PARTNER HAVE . OR IN ORDER KEEP THE CHILDREN YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY AS A MARRIED COUPLE WE ENOUGH OF A INCOME TO SUPPORT THE FAMILY.  

I BET EVER BODY  WOULD START TAKING ACTION AND WEAR PROTECTION. BECAUSE IF WE LET MAN OR WOMAN OPT OUT OF CHILD SUPPORT MORE PEOPLE WILL END UP ON WELFARE AND TAXES MONEY THAT YOU AND I PAY, WILL GO UP AND UP AND UP. I BELIEVE SOMETHING MUST BE DONE SOON BUT WERE IT IS EQUAL TO BOTH!   

I agree that women trap men, which is why this subject had a major effect on my thinking about this.  I am a female who has had a child.  I am also a female who terminated a pregnancy VERY EARLY, because I was told it was not what my partner wanted and I was the one that got pregnant.    

I fully 100% agree with the gentleman on the show.  He was up front and forthright with her that he absolutely wanted no children.  I feel it is the responsibility of the woman totally to make sure she is protected.  She is the one that is going to get pregnant not him and she is the one given the choice of what to do with the pregnancy when she concieves, not him.  So don't you think the responsibility of being protected should be on the shoulders of the female if she doesn't want to be pregnant or agree with terminating, or adoption?  I do very wholeheartedly.  If she doesn't make him wear a condom, which let's be realistic here guys, men will do what they can to get out of it, it's her fault not his.  I know I am going to get a lot of flack about it but that is where the ultimatum comes in.  Girly, if you want to have sex with this man, you better be prepared to mother a child that may or may not be wanted by your partner.  Otherwise keep your pants on.  I'm sorry but it's a womans choice to chose what to do when she gets pregnant, I feel the gentleman on the show has a very valid point and I don't think he should have to be responsible if he doesn't want to have anything to do with the child.  If he wants to see her then that is different.  I think in this country, we should give the men the right to sign over all rights.  Meaning they are giving up their child to the biological mother. If his parents want to see the child, then they can pay the child support to have Grandparental rights.   Maybe in this country by doing that, we would prevent unwed mothers from making choices that result in unwanted pregnancy.  I think a change in the legal system about this would definately open the eyes of any woman that decides she wants to have sex with the possibility, even with full protection, of getting pregnant.    

I would go on but I could write a novel about this.    

Well, maybe the female shouldn't be button loose and panty free.  If you don't want to be a single mother, DON'T HAVE SEX!  If you discuss the possibilities of becomeing pregnant and your partner objects to children very strongly, keep your pants on.  I get so sick of hearing about dead beat dads.  Dead beat dads are the men that fathered wanted children in a marriage or relationship and took off without taking responsibilities.  It takes more than a sperm doner to be a dad.