Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

I can see your point.. and I would have the same view of that as I do of this. It happens every day. Meanwhile.. the baby (or fetus as it were) is in the woman's abdomen, not the man's. So I really don't see how a man could force her to carry the baby any more than a man can force her to have an abortion. But hey.. with all this science and technology maybe a man can find a way to carry the baby, go through abortion or labor, etc. I can think of a few women who would be happy to see that.  

I guess that question is similar to if I say my neighbor's hand might smack me, should I be able to make him cut it off? Or should I stay away from my neighbor in the first place? Male or female.. if you don't want it.. you know what not to do.  

Birth control is not 100% effective, and doctors do make mistakes. Responsible adults should realize this.  Life finds a way.  When you get involved in a premartial relationship that is the chance you take when you have sex.  You don't want to have a child don't make it a preclaimer before hand.  Don't have sex period.  Abstainance is the only 100% effective birth control.  Personally I would not want his money and when the child wanted to know about their father I would tell them the truth.    

I really can't believe that Matt is that ignorant,  I mean if you don't want to be a Dad then don't have sex!!!  You take a risk of having a child EVERY time you CHOOSE to have sex, even if you wear protection and she's on birth control.  He's old enough to know that and if he was so sure she couldn't get pregnant then why did he initaly wear a condom.  There is no garuntee that someone can't or won't get pregnant, no type of birth control, not even getting your tubes tied or getting a vasectomy, and definately a Doctor saying; sorry but you won't be able to have childern. Only God determines who will and won't be able to conceive.  I know this first hand.  My boyfriend and I had been together for 5yrs with not even a scare of pregnancy, and trust me I am VERY forgetful and wouldn't take my pill for weeks.  I finally said forget it and stoped taking it altogether because I was sure one of us couldn't have childern.  About 6 months later we learned that he had testicular cancer and needed to have one of his testicles removed.  We were told that he needed to bank sperm because he wouldn't be able to have childern.  We paid to bank sperm for a year for nothing, because we got pregnant less than a year after his surgery, and again with our second the following year.  So like I said Doctor's are not always right, they can only tell you what they believe medically, God will take care of the rest. 

It's very shocking to learn that you are pregnant after you've been told there's no chance of that happening, espesially if  she was also taking birth conrtol of other reasons.  Appearenly Matt is a selfish person and didn't think that maybe she wasn't quite ready to have kids either but here she is pregnant and since she made the desicion to have sex she is now taking care of the responsiability THEY created.  Not running from it and looking for any excuse not to be a responsible adult. 

Having a child is not easy to do and she is doing it all on her own...good for her!!!  She has to be a strong woman to be going through all this and still being there for her daughter.  The baby is who I feel for the most, she didn't ask for any of this and one day she most likely will see or hear about this whole situation, no matter how hard her mother tries to shield her from it.  They are much better without him around, he's the one missing out on the joy have having a child. 

I totally agree that men should be able to participate in a choice over something such as abortion, adoption, etc. And to my knowledge something like that is in place somewhere, but the problems lie in the same area as everything else. First of all, we have a very inadequate judicial system. Case in point: a cat fight over whether or not a living, breathing human being deserves to be loved and taken care of. This is not a baby in utero, a fetus or any other such abortion jargon. Its a child.  

Secondly,  If responsibility were taken in the first place whether you wanted a baby or not, and whether your partner wanted a baby or not, unwanted babies would not be a reality. And really, when the baby is unwanted, the abortion may be physical, the drop off may be horrible, but there is surely at least an internal death that child will have to live with, if nothing else. It all comes down to character character character. If you know who you're sleeping with, and you both want the same thing, and you both act in a responsible manner to attain that thing, then you will not have an issue.  

Hey, maybe we can just start forcing genital restricting devices on all these men and women who obviously need to take some extra time to think.. mature.. THINK?? I mean.. if we can't just abstain, and we can't wear a condom, and we can't take a pill every morning, and we can't even get along on issues like abortion... ; yet we insisnt on sleeping with one another for some dumb reason.. maybe we should find a way to take genitals out of the genetic code until some level of intelligence and maturity gets woven into the general population?  

I do agree that when you make a choice to have sex, both parties are responsible for their actions and the outcome.  They should live up to them, as it’s not about what they want, but what choices they already made.  

The issue comes about with Roe vs. Wade.  If women have the choice, before AND after sex about how to handle the pregnancy, so should men.  The idea that the father is financially obligated if the woman chooses to have the baby is wrong.  Suppose the man decided he wanted the baby, and the woman didn’t.  Where is his choice to live up to his responsibility?  She can terminate his baby without his consent.  

Adult choices have Adult responsibilities.  The woman should not be allowed to terminate a pregnancy without the Father’s consent.  A man should have the same choice to be a parent as a woman does.  A woman can choose to get pregnant, and not tell the father and go it alone.  

A woman has the choice to be a parent; she should make that decision knowing if the man will be a father.  He should not be obligated to follow her decision without the same legal choices she has.