Any ideas with the situation below?? PLEASE?????
I'm fairly new...having a hard time following the message boards -- it looks like a post gets lost after a couple new people post so I'm not sure how to keep track of this, but here goes:
First let me apologize in advance for writing a "book". My thanks to anyone who takes the time to read all this and reply, because I have a feeling that nothing will fix this, but hopefully I'll feel better after "talking" about it. At least for the moment....I see it almost daily...but definitely cry about it every day. And, the worst part is......I'm not the only one crying about it. I need to know what to do. I am desperate for answers...for any kind of help.
My problem is my daughter and my older grandson. She actually has two sons, but you would think she has only one. She had my first grandson when she was 17, and lived with me til she was 18. I raised my older grandson the first year because she was never around (of course she denies this now). When she moved out, she used him as a pawn to get what she wanted from me (I couldn't see him if I made her mad). She got pregnant again, lived with me again for another few months, (I was the main caretaker of my grandson again during that time), she had another boy, and suddenly my first grandson became "irrelevant" to her (except to still use as a pawn). My grandsons are now 2.5 and 4.5 yrs old. My younger grandson is NEVER disciplined...or should I say, occasionally she'll tell him to stop a behavior, but never follows through or never does anything about it when he blatantly continues the behavior. He doesn't listen to her at all (not a surprise as to why). My older grandson gets punished constantly and for everything, and has been since he was 14mos old. She use to punish him by using his playpen as a "timeout" at that age.
Briefly: The two children get new toys, the younger boy grabs the older boy's new toy and says "mine" (yes, that comes with the age....but....). My daughter tells the older grandson "Don't you take that from your brother, he's playing with it right now". The older boy protests that it's his new toy and my daughter tells him "Too bad, you have to share. Your brother is playing with it right now". If the older boy picks up a toy belonging to the younger boy, the younger boy runs over, grabs it, yells "mine", and the older boy is told, "Don't take that toy out of your brother's hands, it's his toy". Or...the younger boy is playing quietly with a toy, and the older boy goes over and sits down next to him to play with him. The younger boy screams "mine", and the older boy is told "Leave your brother alone, he was playing with those toys first" or "He was playing fine by himself, leave him alone!". However, if the older boy is playing with toys, the younger boy WILL come over, completely knock over, tear up, destroy or grab what the older boy is playing with--intentionally. When the older boy cries or gets frustrated, he's told "Let your brother play with you right now, he just wants to play", or "Don't take the toys from your younger brother, he can play too", or best of all: "DON'T get frustrated! If you do, you'll sit by yourself in timeout and your brother will get to play with the toys by himself" (taunting him with the way she says it). Bottom line: The older boy can have NO toys of his own--they all belong to the younger boy. He can never play by himself, he MUST play "with" his brother even if he doesn't want to, however the younger brother never has to share, never has to allow the older brother to play if he doesn't want to share. Sounds like a problem with sharing toys....but that's not really it.........
More recently, the older boy is now acting out, because he is beginning to feel that his mother likes his younger brother more (what a surprise), and is now being punished when he cries because he's feeling hurt, yelled at for being upset, and told to be quiet. He is not permitted to display or express any feelings or emotions unless they are happy ones. He's permitted to express pleasure. That's ALL. If he hits his younger brother, his mother has now begun to hit him in return (this is new). However, his younger brother hits him, kicks him, bites him, throws toys at him, etc and not a word is spoken to the younger boy and the older boy isn't "allowed" to respond or defend himself. If he does (fight back), the older boy is punished for hitting his brother, even if the younger boy hits first--which he frequently does because he knows there won't be any consequences for him--nothing happens to the younger boy at all. Absolutely nothing. So........younger boy can hit, kick, and throw toys at older brother (or actually do anything he wants to him) and there are no consequences. Older boy does something minor, even if in self defense, and gets punished for it. Then my daughter makes comments to the older boy such as "Why are you acting like this? STOP it! Stop acting all mad". Gee....I'd be mad.....and hurt too, just like he is! Does she truly not know why he's so angry?, or is she's just taunting him.
He regularly sees his younger brother cry if he doesn't get what he wants immediately. My daughter runs to the aide of the younger boy (even if he's throwing a temper tantrum): "What's wrong baby?" "What do you need?" "What do you want?" "Do you want this? This? Oh..this? What do you want baby?" She goes down a list of things...showing him, offering him, trying to please him, while he continues to cry and scream until something enticing enough grabs his attention and then he stops crying. On the opposite end....the older boy sees the younger boy throw a temper tantrum to get what he wants....sees that it works to get ANYTHING the younger boy wants, so he tries it himself. My daughter instantly yells at the older boy to STOP! If he doesn't stop immediately, she begins taking toys away from him and threatening harsher punishment. Bottom line: Younger boy cries and throws a tantrum, and gets anything and everything he wants (and things he didn't even want) to make him feel better, calm him down, quiet him. Older boy cries, gets everything taken away from him and/or punished, to shut him up.
My older grandson spends as much time with me as he and I can convince my daughter to let him. He begs her daily to let him stay with me. In the past, she'd let him stay if I gave her money. More recently, she has really cut the time back, because she doesn't like that he's happy when he's with me. She tends to do this intentionally to upset and taunt him--AND to upset me too. And, because I know my daughter very well, I can clearly see a small bit of pleasure in her face when she has done something that pleases the younger boy, at the expense of the older boy (I will give two examples below). The older boy is super intelligent and very advanced for his age. He has a huge vocabulary, and has now begun asking me questions like, "Why is mommy more interested in my brother than me?" (His exact words). I told him that his mommy loves them both very much, and he said "No Nana. She says she does, but she doesn't. She loves G alot more than me". (G=younger boy). He paused, and then: "Why doesn't my mommy like me?". We were driving in the car and he couldn't see my face luckily, but I didn't answer after that, because at that point I was in tears and couldn't speak. By the time we got to my house I was nauseated....the rest of the day I just felt like holding him and crying, but I didn't want to dwell on it for his sake, so we played with his toys.
OR (this one REALLY got to me) questions like: "Nana, when will my wish come true?", then a few seconds later: "Why is it taking so long?" When I questioned him about which wish he meant, he replied: "The wish I made that I could live with you, so my mommy wouldn't hate me so much". -- I had to leave the room so he wouldn't see me crying.
She absolutely, positively, completely and totally, would never, never, ever, ever begin to consider letting him live with me....because..........that would make ME happy, it would make HIM, happy, and she would lose her PAWN to use to get what she wants. (her maturity level is way below her physical age, due to health issues when she was younger....she is still at the "rebellious, teenage level" of maturity, and takes delight in causing me problems and pain--however on the surface, she *appears* mature enough to take care of kids, and because she never spends time around anyone other than her young friends and boyfriends, no one has any idea how she really is with her kids). She regularly makes choices based on what's best for HER, what makes HER happy, what HER wants and needs are....placing those above her older son's needs. A good bit of the time however, she does *wants* of the younger child somewhere around her desires, but..........not really what he NEEDS. She does what makes HER feel good, and that's by giving in to him, giving him anything he asks for, cries for, throws a tantrum for....etc. She doesn't really seem to even consider the older boy's wants and needs though.
Here are some examples:
One: I picked them up to go out to eat. The older boy came to the car walking with his head hanging down and his shoulders hunched over (he walks like that alot lately). I asked him what was wrong, and he told me that his brother had his toy, and that his mother made him take one he didn't want. I told him, "Let your brother play with it for now, maybe later he'll lose interest in it, and you two can trade." I asked my daughter if they could trade when the younger boy lost interest, and she agreed, saying ONLY if the younger boy lost interest (with a slight grin on her face). By the time we were done eating, the younger boy was no longer interested in the older boy's toy. The older boy picked up his toy, and I handed the other toy to the younger boy, who was very pleased with the toy I gave him (the younger boy didn't CARE which toy he got). Both boys were very happy. At that point, my daughter told the older boy in a harsh tone, "Give that toy back to your brother!!!" I reminded her that she agreed they could trade if the younger boy lost interest. My daughter became angry, grabbed the younger boy's hand, angrily saying "Come on G!!!!!!!", practically stomping her feet (a favorite of hers) the whole way to the door. I asked her why she was upset, when both boys were happy. She then said "Don't you care about G's feelings????" (G=younger boy). I was stunned.
I replied, "Don't you care about N's (N=older boy) feelings?....both boys are very happy, why are YOU angry?" She began grumbling something uncomprehendible. Bottom line....as always: She was happy when the older boy was crying, but when the older boy got what he wanted (even if both boys were happy), she became irate. She didn't WANT the older boy to have the toy he wanted!!!
Another example...today. My daughter makes it clear that of course if I buy a toy for one boy, I must buy a toy for both (even if the younger boy isn't with me), to spare the younger boy's feelings (SHE'S more concerned about the younger boy's "feelings" than the boy himself). Ok, no problem. Of course, I always make sure they both have a toy. Today when I took the older boy home, we walked in, and there was a brand new train set sitting on the floor. The older boy sat down next to it and said "Wow! A new train! Where did this come from mommy?". My daughter told him it was his brother's train set. The younger boy ran over and said "Mine! NO, mine!! NO! It's mine!". The older boy said, "I can play with it too", younger boy yelling "No N!! MINE!!!". My daughter said nothing to the younger boy (as always). The younger boy grabbed the train cars out of the older boy's hands and yelled "Mine" again. Older boy kept trying to play with trainset, while younger boy began throwing the pieces of the train AT the older boy to stop him from playing with it. The older boy got upset, threw the train pieces across the room, and was immediately yelled at by his mother. "If you're going to act like that, you won't play with it! It's G's train!!!". The older boy questioned, "Why can't *I* have a new trainset too?". My daughter ignored the question. The older boy tried several times to play with it, and met with screams of "Mine", toys thrown at him, train tracks thrown at him, and my daughter said nothing to the younger boy. Finally, the older boy got upset (really upset), and started crying, started throwing train pieces everywhere, and was yelled at to stop being angry, stop throwing the train or he was not going to play with it, and to leave his brother alone. By this time, the older boy began hitting his younger brother (His feelings were really hurt by now). My daughter kept yelling at him saying: "What is WRONG with you? Why are you ACTING LIKE THIS!!!". (I can't imagine why he would be...gee). The older boy asked me if I'd bring his trainset from my house (each boy has a trainset at my house....they look totally different and each boy knows what their trainset looks like). I brought the older boy's train over.....Lo and behold, the younger boy ran over and said "Mine!!!!" after we put the older boy's trainset together. My daughter said nothing to him. He kept yelling at the older boy "This is MY train! It's MINE!" The older boy started crying again....he knew it was going to become his brother's trainset too. Like everything else that use to belong to him.....that is now his brother's. Crying, he said "Oh GREAT! Now this is going to be G's train TOO and I'm not going to have one!" What do I tell him? It's true and he knows it.
My daughter has done several things (or should I say, the WAY she has done them) that has really, really traumatized him (especially about bedtime). He begs me...really begs me not to take him home. When I do take him home, he hangs on my legs begging me not to leave (he knows how he's treated once I leave, and dreads it). He stands in front of the door trying to block me from leaving. When I finally do leave, he tries to run out the door after me. Finally, on many occasions, I can hear him screaming hysterically in the trailer as I walk to my car, and I feel physically sick. I can also hear my daughter yelling at him "Stop acting upset like that or you're going to bed!" The one thing he fears most, she uses as punishment.
I've tried talking to my daughter, tried explaining that my older grandson says he feels like he isn't loved, and she literally ignores me, or smiles and says "yeah, right". But I really can't say much, because then she says, "Whatever. I don't believe you, but I'll talk to N myself!", and then that puts him on the spot and he ends up getting punished if he tells the truth, so I don't want to do that to him. Unfortunately, she's very self centered and doesn't do what's in the best interest of the children, she does what makes her feel good, even if it's at the children's expense. She frequently reminds me of someone without a conscience or without feelings. I just don't know what to do. My older grandson is crying out for help regularly, and no one can do a thing about it. She frequently "dares" me to call CYS (saying "they won't do anything" to her), telling me she's a "perfect mother", isn't doing anything wrong, and she'll never believe anyone who tells her otherwise. The worst part is, she's very careful that there's no proof of what she does as far as physically hitting him. The emotional part is hard to prove anyway and she knows it.
I've tried talking to the older boy's father. They're both young....he's still in love with my daughter, and he immediately ran and told her everything we discussed (even though he had told me he wasn't speaking to her....and I didn't realize he still did at the time). I'm guessing he thought that she would "take him back" if he volunteered information. They're friends now...even though he still loves her. He will most definitely overlook what she is doing. He rarely sees the boy. Only a few times a year....even though he talks to my daughter frequently. She truly acts as if she has one son, and one emotional punching bag (although lately, he's now telling me she actually has hit him a few times). She does tell him she loves him....but her actions speak louder than any words. What she says to him compared to what she SHOWS him, tell a totally different story in his mind.
There's SO much more to this, but this is the short version. I'm just sick....daily! I cry all the time about this. This poor baby is broken. He's hurting! And it's really beginning to show in many ways. Everytime he's with me, I tell him what a good boy he is, what a smart boy, a sweet boy, how much I love him, etc.....but he's hurting, and it's not ME he wants to hear that from, (although I know he likes hearing it from me), he wants to hear it from her and he wants her to MEAN IT.....and she doesn't even care. She won't even acknowledge it! And I've SEEN her take pleasure in his pain! Why? Why isn't there more that can be done? I love both my grandsons, but I just can't handle seeing the older child tormented and taunted by his own mother on a daily basis! I know how badly this affects me....I just can't imagine what this is doing to HIM inside! HOW can she even wonder why he acts like he acts????? I'm desperate for answers....I know he wants things to be different too! In the past year, he's gone from being a wonderful, cheerful, happy, pleasant, bubbly little guy, to a sad, broken, tearful, sullen, angry, frustrated boy (although he's not permitted to display or express those feelings). PLEASE--What can I do??