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Topic : 07/07 The Final Ultimatum

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Created on : Friday, April 21, 2006, 10:15:01 am
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(Original Air Date: 04/24/06) Have you ever been so fed up with your spouse's behavior that you’ve considered giving him or her an ultimatum? Dr. Phil talks to guests who say their marriage is on the rocks, and they need help reconnecting. Barbara calls her stepdaughter, Ambreah, "a monster." She says she inherited “the little thing" when her husband, Ed's, ex-wife was in a tragic car accident. Ambreah no longer lives with them, but Barbara says if Ed brings her back into their house, she'll leave. Should Ed be forced to choose between his wife and his child? Then, Bobby, a country music singer, says his wife, Danyel's, jealous ways are pushing him to the brink. She curses out other women, checks his cell phone records and accuses him of cheating on her. Bobby says if Danyel doesn't stop her behavior, he's ready to go solo. Is Bobby giving Danyel a reason to sing the blues? Talk about the show here.

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April 24, 2006, 11:20 pm PDT

and MEN.

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Excuse me? The WOMAN wants to KILL the daughter ok?  

  

The country singer's wife is the Jealous type and needs to MOVE ON, OK?  

  

I don't care about the 3rd party.  

I would also like to know about the FATHERS????   

  

       Why does the birth father sit back and watch this woman beat his child not once, but twice. 

  

  

     About the jealous wife...grow up.  Please girl, all us women DON'T want your man! 

 
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April 24, 2006, 11:37 pm PDT

Alarmed!

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Nope, it's pretty much a running theme. I've known that since I got my very own Evil Twit. And I've known numerous friends in the past (and some in the present) who have faced the same demons, maybe not as extreme but there just the same. It's a matter of some women's ability to understand that children are supposed to come first. They think that if they get rid of the child, all the attention will fall on them, and it will..but the price really is too high. It must take a lot of self-delusion to convince oneself that a six-year-old is a manipulator and evil. Self-evaluation would solve this problem if they would just think about it, but then they had to show they're insecure and they think by acting as if it's all someone else's problem, then it can't come back onto them.

Or, you know, I could just be self-identifying. But then again, of course my experiences would color my evaluation of the situations discussed recently of stepmothers gone bad. A decade of mistreatment and abandonment from my father by her hand kinda makes that a part of my character at this point.

I believe that anyone in their right mind would never say that they are going to KILL a child.  What about misdirected anger?  What if this unstable woman becomes jealous of her own children, or for what ever reason in the unstable minds of abusers of children think that the children are an inposition to her way of living, such as the little girl.  This woman should not be around ANY CHILD, and Dr. Phil should make sure that the children that are in her custody are safe.  We don't know the whole truth of why this woman is the way she is, she did have an affair with a married man, which shows her capability of manipulation.   

All I know from the show, is I witnessed a woman say that she was going to KILL a child if left alone with her.  This alarms me greatly.  This woman even described things she would like to do that would physically hurt this child, which tells me she has the potential of being an abuser, not to mention, she ADMITTED, she ABUSED the little girl whie the father stood by.  I hope that whatever is done to "assist" with the welfare of this child is FOR the child, so maybe foster parents should contact Dr. Phil for applications to adopt this child, instead of cps.  I find it had to believe that there are any family members capable of helping, since the child is already living with "friends"! 

Excuse me if I seem bias, I am just sick of the abuse of children, and the abusers making excuses! 

 
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April 25, 2006, 12:05 am PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

ED NEEDS TO KICK BARBARA TO THE CURB AND GET HIS DAUGHTER BACK AND GET HER THE HELP SHE NEEDS THAT GIRL WENT THROUGH SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS AND NEEDS SOMEONE TO HELP HER SORT HER FEELINGS OUT SO TO ED I SAY TO THE CURB SHE GOES AND DON'T LET HER NEAR YOUR DAUGHTER AGAIN AND TO BARBARA GET SOME HELP YOU NEED IT!!!!!!!!!!
 
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April 25, 2006, 12:27 am PDT

Who wears the pants in the family???

We know who wears the pants in their family!! Ed should not even be labeled as a father. A father is supposed to be there for you in the time of need and he's also supposed to be the protector, someone she can run to when she's hurt or sad or happy at any given time. I don't know how someone could loath a child as much as I seen Barbara today. What kind of maternal instincts,or behavior is she showing her own daughter? I'm so happy that Ambrea is living with that wonderful family. Honestly she should stay right where she is at. If Ed was a spineless jerk and already having an affair with Barbara, got a divorce from his first wife, and then CHOOSING that thing you call a wife over his own daughter then he doesn't deserve to have her at all. Not all step parents are bad or evil. You have good and bad in everybody . My husband is a step-dad to my oldest daughter who is now 11 yrs old he's raised her since she was 2. If I even had one inclination that he resented her that much or any type of evil thinking he would've been out the door before my daughter could say "ABC" Now we have 3 more together a total of 4. And everysingle one of them are treated the same. Thanks Dr.Phil for telling them like it is. I also would like to know what is going on with Ambrea.She is truely Gods gift. I hope she never sees that clip of the show or see these messages. Just know all of our hearts,thoughts,and prayers go out to her.
 
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April 25, 2006, 12:29 am PDT

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The step mother was horrible, but the one person left on this earth that should be looking out for his daughter's best interest is obviously not equipped to be a father. I can't believe that noone thinks that this little girl will never have her interests protected or be nurtured by this man. She is better off with another home where she may have a chance. The fact that these people went on national TV and thought they had a legitimate basis to throw a child out of her home while the father has opted to raise another man's children all to keep a woman happy is good enough grounds for me to remove her permanently!
 
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April 25, 2006, 12:37 am PDT

Want to kill?

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Until you have dealt with someone else's severly damaged child, do not judge. I have dealt with a child like this and it is pure hell. The fastest way to destroy a relationship is attempt to parent someone else's damaged child. Good luck Barbara!!! I know how difficult this is.

So are you wishing this woman good luck with....taking the child's father away, controlling every aspect of this child's life?  Instead of saying good luck...why don't you encourage child abusers to attain serious counseling after they remove themself from any child. 

  

  Sounds like PEOPLE need to attain better coping skills when it comes to children.   There are Nanny services available.  So I recommend calling  a nanny instead of beating a child, or wanting to kill a child.  Barbara has many issues, including fooling around with married men.  But the problem I have with her, is that she...on NATIONAL TELEVISION admitted to WANTING TO KILL (MURDER) a child, and said SHE WOULD if she was LEFT ALONE with the child.  So, I don't wish her luck, I wish her own children luck. 

 
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April 25, 2006, 12:47 am PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

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Barbara seethes with animosity toward the child, who is already angry about losing her mother & likely about her ice cube of a father.  Ambreah may have been programmed to hate Barbara, but Barbara reinforced that programming every day.  Had Barbara been kind, loving & empathetic, the programming would have gradually extingished.  Heck, beat me with a belt & I'll have a very hard time not hating you, programming or not.   And if I'm 4 to 6 years old, hell yes I'll hate someone who yells at me & hits me with a belt.
Do you really think a four year old (the age all this started) knows the meaning of hate, or the emotion attached to it?  I don't think so.  Sure, she heard her Mommy saying mean things about Barbara, but do you honestly think she attached emotion to the words.  Not likely.  And let's be realistic here, do you really think Barbara handled this in an adult manner?  Step-Mommy Dearest should have acted like the adult she is suppose to be  and got the child help if she was as evil and full of hate as Step-Mommy Dearest claimed.  As Dr. Phil says, it's a no brainer. 
 
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April 25, 2006, 12:57 am PDT

Dr. Phil told dad to go get her...

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I'd like everyone to know that Ambreah is truely the winner in this situation. My cousin and his wife (who was a friend of her mother's) are currently the ones caring for this child. If Edward truely wants his wife more than this child we all know what a loser he is. Ambreah is in a loving, Christian home with 2 other children. She is brought to visit with her mother on a routine basis, but most of all she is in a loving enviroment where she can prosper and grow to be a productive adult.I pray that she doesn't see this segment of the show. She now has an extended family that loves her. She is the most gentle loving child you will ever meet. I truely believe that Edward and Barbara will pay for the decisions they have made.  If Ambreah ever sees this segment or this forum board, I just want her to know one thing: " WE LOVE YOU, and we will always be your family" Edward --  - The best thing you could do would be allow her to be adopted and walk away if you are choosing Barbara first. Barbara - - I really feel sorry for you. You must be a very insecure person if your jealousy of this child has caused you this much grief. I will pray for you each night to remove this hatred of this child, but if you truely feel you could kill her you need to stay as far away from her as possible. As for both Edward and Barbara, I hope what Dr. Phil says to you will sink in and you will resolve your issues. I beg of you to allow Ambi a normal childhood. She has already had way to much taken from her.

I hope that what you say is true, and that if she is in a loving home, that Ambreah supporters that have personal contact with her situation contact Dr. Phil and let him know that Ambreah is better off where she is.  Of course "old school" is that the child is always better off with one biological parent, but in this situation, the father has shown such poor judgement, such as, not doing anthing to protect her from the beatings, and I bet there has been emotional and mental abuse by this unstable woman ( Barbara ).  I hope the family that has had Ambreah attains an attorney to keep her.  I wonder if someone involved could do a welfare check on the other children in the home, because I wonder if the other children are taught to hate Ambreah, or witnessed the abuse, my other concern is that Barbara will misdirect her anger with all of the pressures on her now, since her abusive secrets are now out in the open, and she will take it out on her own children. 

I also have concerns that if the dad does try to keep Ambreah, and has to leave Barbara, will he blame the child for losing Barbara?  Since the viewing public doesn't have the opportunity to know everything on first hand basis, but what was obvious, is that Barbara is extremely unstable.  Her statements that this child was out to get her, and her absolute jealousy of this child is alarming.  But the worst thing, that I feel this woman should have been arristed for is that she is a harm to children for admiting on NATIONAL TV that she is willing to murder a child.  I am frustrated that Dr. Phil just seemed to avoid the seriousness of this statement.  If a child in our school system makes a statement, serious or not, they are immediately taken to the authorities.  NO TOLERANCE.  There are NO excuses for her reasons to hate, threaten, abuse this child.  Dr. Phil should not have tolerated it.  Please give the family that is caring for her a message...get a good attorney, and fight to keep her.  The father is incompetent!  This child has been through so much, and she deserves so much more than what Edward can give her, just because he is the biological father.  I was for the dad, until I read this.  Thank you for letting us know!  We will be praying for Ambreah! 

 
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April 25, 2006, 1:00 am PDT

band wife

I too am the wife of a band member.  My husband didn't start playing in a band until a few years after we were married.  I was also very jealous.  We had a lot of arguments about it and he chose to go ahead and play.  It took a long time for me to get adjusted, but now I have come to accept it.  In June we will be celebrating our 23rd anniversary.  I guess what really changed my way of thinking was his dad's words while on his death bed.  My husband had stopped playing in the band and his dad told him "you should start playing music again.  God gave you the talent for a reason, so use it".  We had been down the road of affairs and always came back to each other.  Our love was stong enough to weather these storms, so I guess that goes to prove something.  Yes he still gets hit on, but he always let's them know he's happily married.  I don't  go with him very often, but when I get to go it's like we are young and dating again.  Hang in there!  Love is a great thing.  It's okay to be jealous, just don't let it show in a bad way. As long as you both are faithful to each other, you have nothing to worry about.  And to the husband.  The crowd will come even if you are married.  They want to hear the music.  Some will hit on you, but you have to stand up and be a man.  Your wife and child should always come first.  People will respect you more if you are honest and show how proud you are to be married and a dad!
 
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April 25, 2006, 1:10 am PDT

don't you get it

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Forget the T-shirt exchange.  You're not Tom Leykis.  And put your wedding ring on!  Danielle may have a jealous nature, but you're adding fuel to the fire.  

It is not his job to make sure she does not get jealous. If someone was on this thread was saying a woman needed to quit being who she is so her man wouldn't feel threatened everyone would fly off the handle at the poster, but apparently men need to act properly or it becomes their fault that the wife is abusive.
 
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