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Topic : 07/07 The Final Ultimatum

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Created on : Friday, April 21, 2006, 10:15:01 am
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(Original Air Date: 04/24/06) Have you ever been so fed up with your spouse's behavior that you’ve considered giving him or her an ultimatum? Dr. Phil talks to guests who say their marriage is on the rocks, and they need help reconnecting. Barbara calls her stepdaughter, Ambreah, "a monster." She says she inherited “the little thing" when her husband, Ed's, ex-wife was in a tragic car accident. Ambreah no longer lives with them, but Barbara says if Ed brings her back into their house, she'll leave. Should Ed be forced to choose between his wife and his child? Then, Bobby, a country music singer, says his wife, Danyel's, jealous ways are pushing him to the brink. She curses out other women, checks his cell phone records and accuses him of cheating on her. Bobby says if Danyel doesn't stop her behavior, he's ready to go solo. Is Bobby giving Danyel a reason to sing the blues? Talk about the show here.

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April 24, 2006, 11:52 am PDT

ummm think about it

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Well, they let Ed and Shelia's children talk about how they were feeling.  They had it taped, though, and I'm sure the staff made sure the kids felt comfortable about opening up about their feelings.  Of course I don't think they should let the kid go on TV. 

  

http://drphil.com/shows/show/524/ 

  

I'm sorry if you are floored by my honesty, but that is how I feel.  I didn't say I feel no sympathy for Ambreah, because I do feel sorry for her and hope she finds some peace in her life.  I'm just saying that acting out and being bratty is wrong too. 

okay so she didnt talk on tv a 6 year old (normally) isnt going to be able to tell "her side of the story" with any kind of coheasion, they just dont factor into this that this is a traumatized 6 year old who went thru a horrific car accident that took her mother away when she was 4 and a half and was severly injured herself who has had NO threapy for this.  and lets factor into this equation also that her step mother and primary care giver wants to "kill her" and you honestly expect her to explore her feelings with any kind of sense?????  gee i think if i was in a horrific car accident and lost (for all intents and purposes) my mother in it at age 4 and a half, i would have peed myself everytime i got near a car too!  terrified doesnt even begin to cover the emotion she has to be feeling about cars! we have BARBARA'S view of the things that ambreah supposedly was doing, i seriously doubt that a 6 year year old (especially this one) says to herself "oh gee dad and barb are going in thier room to do the deed i think ill go listen at the door!" more like she got scared and went to her fathers door and laid down on the floor in front of it for no other reason then she needed her father at that moment! and the reason she didnt just knock on the door should be obvious to everyone BARBARA WAS IN THERE TOO AND BARBARA (who admitted to beating this child) scares the crap outta the kid! at NO point did dud and step monster say they had gotten ANY PROFESSIONAL help for this child after her world was ripped apart at the tender age of 4 and a half, so ambreah "acting out and being bratty" is perfectly NORMAL! she has NO clue how to express her emotions or what to do with them! all she knows is her mommy left her and wont wake up (to her it means mom doesnt want her) and duddy at step monsters insistance dumped her on a "friend"  THINK ABOUT IT!
 
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April 24, 2006, 11:54 am PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

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Well, they let Ed and Shelia's children talk about how they were feeling.  They had it taped, though, and I'm sure the staff made sure the kids felt comfortable about opening up about their feelings.  Of course I don't think they should let the kid go on TV. 

  

http://drphil.com/shows/show/524/ 

  

I'm sorry if you are floored by my honesty, but that is how I feel.  I didn't say I feel no sympathy for Ambreah, because I do feel sorry for her and hope she finds some peace in her life.  I'm just saying that acting out and being bratty is wrong too. 

I too was floored by your post about this little girl. But it was not "your honesty" and I use that term loosely. It is your absolute ignorance about it that gets to me.
 
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April 24, 2006, 11:56 am PDT

you all need to stop putting words in my mouth

Did I say that what Barbara did was right?  NO I DIDN'T! 

  

Did I say that the little girl deserved what she got?  NO I DIDN'T! 

  

All I said was that her behavior was not exactly the best, and while I TOTALLY DO NOT THINK THAT BARBARA SHOULD BE HITTING HER, I can understand a little her feelings of frustration. 

  

SHEEESH.   

 
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April 24, 2006, 11:59 am PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

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 You are right.There are good ones out there. I have a 41/2 step daughter and I love her so very much that I think of her just as much as I do my own 2 daughters.I've been in her life since she was 4 months old.I taughter her to talk,walk,tie her shoes,ABC's, and as much as I can.Her mom IS a good mom but she has a very busy career and my stepdaughter is in daycare from 5:30 am til 8pm at night, so she doesn't get much time with mom so i try my very hardest to spend time with her when we have her.I even get angry with my husband if he forgets to call her and talk to her when he tells her he will. I as well, throw her BD. parties, arrange family outings, completly decorated her bedroom in Precious Moments.I know and understand that I am NOT mom, that she has her mom, but I refuse to treat her any different than my own daughters. And which my husband has become dad to them, due to their bio dad sexually and physically abused them and now has his rights relinguished. My husband has shown them the last 5 years how a dad is suppose to treat his daughters and how they are NOT suppose to be treated. They use to have such a hard time trusting men and they did with my husband the 1st 3 years but now they call him dad(by their choice) kiss him goodnight and etc. So, yes, their is some GREAT step parents out there, but it's the ones like on today shows that make it rough for the rest of us..
   There are fabulous step parents.  My Dad, for one.  He is my step father, but my dad in every way.  I also  have a step mother.  Once someone she works with said something only slightly even negative about me.  She rounded on that person like a pit bull and informed them that noone, but noone would speak badly of her daughter in her presence.  Mind you, at the time I was an obnoxious adolescent.  She could easily have let it pass, but she is a GOOD person.  I respect both of my step parents now.  My children have 6 grandparents.  Thank you for all those who love children-love as a verb if nothing else- no matter whose they are.
 
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April 24, 2006, 12:07 pm PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

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Did I say that what Barbara did was right?  NO I DIDN'T! 

  

Did I say that the little girl deserved what she got?  NO I DIDN'T! 

  

All I said was that her behavior was not exactly the best, and while I TOTALLY DO NOT THINK THAT BARBARA SHOULD BE HITTING HER, I can understand a little her feelings of frustration. 

  

SHEEESH.   

barbara is an adult and frustrated or not she should be able to control her feelings!  did i ever get frustrated with my kids HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!! did i ever hit them and leave bruises HELL NO!  did i ever spank them HELL YES!!!!!!!!!! if i was frustrated or too angry to deal with them right then what i did was put them in thier room and go to MY room and cool off! BEFORE ANY disipline was handed out!  i DO NOT understand her AT ALL, frustration is one thing, its how we handle it that makes us MATURE ADULTS i guess elwood the only question i have is if it was YOUR child and some adult, teacher cop principal another mother or father got frustrated with your child and left bruises would you understand it? honestly would you understand it even a little then????
 
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April 24, 2006, 12:18 pm PDT

The Final Ultimation

You  both need help!!! Your step daughter is a child with a mother in the hospital and you give your husband an ultimatum that's its either you or his daughter. Hitting children is NEVER the solution! I hope Child Protective Services comes and takes this poor little girl away from your family.She needs love and compassion. Barbara stated that her children would never treat her husband the way she is being treated. She also said she is a good disiplinarian. A good disiplinarian does not physically abuse children, state they want to kill them, or slam the door on their heads! Barbar clearly wants everything her way, and when it doesn't happen, she has resorts to threats. This little girl didn't ask to be in this situation either. I cannot believe her father sent her away! Your daughter needs you more than ever! Don't ever let a someone come between you and your child. Please get some help and start a new life with your daughter.
 
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April 24, 2006, 12:20 pm PDT

Terrible

While watching this I cant help but feel for the pain of this young, vulnerable little girl. She has experienced the loss of her biological mother and to go through the trauma of an automobile accident.

  This woman is totally uncalled for period.   My god she is 6 years old. 
She sits there in tears as if she is the victim. 
This young girl needs love and compassion, none of which the "wife" is going to give her by any means, I do hope that someone intervenes with this step parenting situation before a terrible tragedy occurs. 
I recently watched another show on step families on Primetime with Diane Sawyer, and to see such violence was heart wrenching.

I commend you Dr. Phil for not reaching out and grabbing that lady by the throat.

Ed my advice is to LEAVE quick.......   You have been given a special gift and one that is not returnable, God bless you.  Your child is in my prayers.
 
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April 24, 2006, 12:20 pm PDT

Evil Stepmoms

 I think these circumstances with "evil stepmothers" go on too often. I myself have come from a situation like that. My stepmother is an alcoholic and used to beat me when she would get drunk. she had and has a serious jealousy problem with my father's kids. according to her, we were "always trying to be his wives." which i find to be sick and twisted.

One day I had it with her crap and I called the police when she was in the middle of one of her drunken rages. needles to say, she went to jail and was charged for her crimes. she struggles to obtain a job today. and i guess that its "my fault."  even after all this my father's mind is still warped and says messed things like: "the bible says you are supposed to abuse your children." and continues to choose women over his children. Because the whole situation is clearly unhealthy and unstable, and I have tried numerous times to work things out. Thers still too much abuse there so I have to stay away. I haven't talked to my father in over 2 years now. But I guess thats the measure I have to take to protect myself.

I hope someone steps in for the child on todays show and smacks her father.. its complete crap whats going on.  This seems to be happening a lot more than people would like to think. Where parents will choose a spouse thats not soo great for the kids over the kids. KIDS ALWAYS COME FIRST.  bottom line.
 
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April 24, 2006, 12:21 pm PDT

ed is an idiot

No child deserves to lose their mother and then be shipped out of their home away from their father. The wife should not have anything to do with discipline.. ed should shake his head and get rid of his wife.  Ed needs to get his daughter back and kick that loser of a wife out.  The wife is pure evil. Ed is stupid.
 
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April 24, 2006, 12:21 pm PDT

RIGHT ON!

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This poor kid got everything that she had been told to expect and a whole lot more it would seem. That woman is not only mean but she isn't too smart to get up on national TV and try to convince the whole world she is the victim.
oh see she only showed up cuz her hubby drug her and im sure SOMEWHERE in that head (i dont think it holds a real brain) she REALLY THINKS SHES THE VICTIM! i only wish i knew where they lived so i could call cps TODAY BEFORE THE SUN GOES DOWN anyone that does know where they live PLEASE MAKE THE CALL THIS CHILD NEEDS PROTECTION, ANY adult who sits on national tv and says the things she said and then tries to justify it and make it the childs fault NEEDS NOT TO BE AROUND ANY KIDS AT ALL (HER OWN INCLUDED!)
 
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