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Topic : 07/07 The Final Ultimatum

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(Original Air Date: 04/24/06) Have you ever been so fed up with your spouse's behavior that you’ve considered giving him or her an ultimatum? Dr. Phil talks to guests who say their marriage is on the rocks, and they need help reconnecting. Barbara calls her stepdaughter, Ambreah, "a monster." She says she inherited “the little thing" when her husband, Ed's, ex-wife was in a tragic car accident. Ambreah no longer lives with them, but Barbara says if Ed brings her back into their house, she'll leave. Should Ed be forced to choose between his wife and his child? Then, Bobby, a country music singer, says his wife, Danyel's, jealous ways are pushing him to the brink. She curses out other women, checks his cell phone records and accuses him of cheating on her. Bobby says if Danyel doesn't stop her behavior, he's ready to go solo. Is Bobby giving Danyel a reason to sing the blues? Talk about the show here.

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April 24, 2006, 7:08 pm PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

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Is it just me or do you see a common theme that seems to be present in almost all the stepmothers who think that the little kids are devious ,conniving, sly,and plotting against them?They really seem to think its a contest or something. I can't understand it. 
Nope, it's pretty much a running theme. I've known that since I got my very own Evil Twit. And I've known numerous friends in the past (and some in the present) who have faced the same demons, maybe not as extreme but there just the same. It's a matter of some women's ability to understand that children are supposed to come first. They think that if they get rid of the child, all the attention will fall on them, and it will..but the price really is too high. It must take a lot of self-delusion to convince oneself that a six-year-old is a manipulator and evil. Self-evaluation would solve this problem if they would just think about it, but then they had to show they're insecure and they think by acting as if it's all someone else's problem, then it can't come back onto them.

Or, you know, I could just be self-identifying. But then again, of course my experiences would color my evaluation of the situations discussed recently of stepmothers gone bad. A decade of mistreatment and abandonment from my father by her hand kinda makes that a part of my character at this point.
 
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April 24, 2006, 7:18 pm PDT

What is wrong with this man!!!

I think that all three of them need to go to counceling both individually and as a family to try to undo what has been done.  As for the little girl. I feel sorry for her because in her eyes not only has this woman (barbera) taken he father away from her once but TWICE!!!!  Maybe Don(?) and Barbera should live apart for a while and get things worked out that way he can be with his daughter and  gradually work Barbera into the scene so that she can kinda see for herself that Barbera is not such a bad person despite what her mother has told her.  If that wont work then he needs to say "You know what I love my wife, But this is my daughter and WE cannot be together if you cannot accept her.  I mean why should you punish the child for the way someone else feels about her?  I know that if I was in a relation ship like that and I couldnt alieviate the problem then I would get out of the relationship because there are plenty of eligable men (in this case women) in this world who would accept me AND my children.
 
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April 24, 2006, 7:19 pm PDT

Dr Phil should have gone further

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first off..bobby should wear his wedding band if he still loves her and wants to work it out..she should also be proud of him and his achievements, and support him throughout it,. he has to work his audience its his job.thing to remember here is he goes home every night to her or with her. she has to stop the jealousy..if you cant make your hubby feel loved and want to come home to you  someone out there will.. he also must start paying her more attention, emotional support, and make her feel loved.you dont take your spouse to a bar just to ignore her for other women..thats wrong its disrespectful,,,i think in the long run they will make it.... communication is the key here.
Dr Phil should have told the non-ring wearing cowboy, not to have conversations on his cell phone, and if he wants to sit with another women, invite her to meet his wife. I don't believe he has to work his audience, is he a prositute or a country singer?. The fastest way to get rid of the women who are up to no good, is to put up a brick wall of love for your wife and family. He could have fans without hurting his wife, and avoid the groupie/ stalker types that are out for a good time and who knows what else. If they really like his music they'll be back, if they only want to shag pretty boys, they can hang out some where else, good ridance!. Women also love a man, that is a good man to his wife and family, look at Tim McGraw and Faith Hill. Hope they don't decide to break up this week. :>)
 
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April 24, 2006, 7:23 pm PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

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Truly at a loss for words. I am shocked at him, he is a father!!!! I hate to say it but this is truly an example of a male who clearly thinks with the head below his waist instead of the one on his sholders.  

could not have said it better myself. When you are willing to trade in a piece of a** for your baby, then we can assume that you DO NOT deserve to be a father! This child needs a permanent forever family away from both of those two.
 
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April 24, 2006, 7:26 pm PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

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I'd like everyone to know that Ambreah is truely the winner in this situation. My cousin and his wife (who was a friend of her mother's) are currently the ones caring for this child. If Edward truely wants his wife more than this child we all know what a loser he is. Ambreah is in a loving, Christian home with 2 other children. She is brought to visit with her mother on a routine basis, but most of all she is in a loving enviroment where she can prosper and grow to be a productive adult.I pray that she doesn't see this segment of the show. She now has an extended family that loves her. She is the most gentle loving child you will ever meet. I truely believe that Edward and Barbara will pay for the decisions they have made.  If Ambreah ever sees this segment or this forum board, I just want her to know one thing: " WE LOVE YOU, and we will always be your family" Edward --  - The best thing you could do would be allow her to be adopted and walk away if you are choosing Barbara first. Barbara - - I really feel sorry for you. You must be a very insecure person if your jealousy of this child has caused you this much grief. I will pray for you each night to remove this hatred of this child, but if you truely feel you could kill her you need to stay as far away from her as possible. As for both Edward and Barbara, I hope what Dr. Phil says to you will sink in and you will resolve your issues. I beg of you to allow Ambi a normal childhood. She has already had way to much taken from her.
Thank your family for their big hearts in welcoming this special child. I hpe that they can provide her a forever family. Please if you can- keep the rest of us updated.
 
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April 24, 2006, 7:26 pm PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

I am disgusted with the way they both treat that poor little girl. That man doesn't deserve to have her as a daughter when he chooses to abandon her after she lost her mom, choosing some woman that has threaten you own flesh and blood and allowing it to continue to happen. She’s going to need allot of professional help with loosing her mom and her dad. She’s best to start with a new family that will actually appreciate her.
 
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April 24, 2006, 7:28 pm PDT

What century are we in?

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If she can't handle the women drooling over him, she should stay home. She should stay home anyway with her child. The child needs to know she is is just as important as the father is. YIKES!!!!
Marriage is supposed to be a partnership. They are both at fault. What century are we in?. A women should put up with anything and act like a clown to please her husband, AND should stay at home with the kid. Maybe he should stay at home, put on his ring, forget about selling himself . If he didn't ignore his wife, and spend time with people who really don't care about him, the wife wouldn't be so jealous and hurt. The wife is a person and does have value, he needs to figure that out.
 
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April 24, 2006, 7:30 pm PDT

amending my previous message

I am sorry I misnamed people.  I was talking about Ed but called him Don and I misspelled Barbara.  sorry!!!!
 
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April 24, 2006, 7:30 pm PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

  I think that what the stepmom is doing to the step daughter is completely wrong.  I am a stepparent also and I could never treat my stepdaughters the way she treated hers.  She is only six and she jus lost her mom.  What do u expect?  Do u think that she is just going to be fine with everything especially when her mom was telling her all the stuff.?  She is going to be rebellious.  She just got her mom taken from her and probably feels like Barbera is trying to take her dad to.  U should never chose a spouse of ur children.  THAT'S WRONG.  The child did not chose to be in the family it is in, the parent did.  When you marry someone u have to take the children to.  U can not just have the parent.  As for what Ed did.  He should have told Barbera to leave.  This little girl is going to grow up and have the feeling that her mom left her and then her dad abandoned her for another woman.
 
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April 24, 2006, 7:32 pm PDT

04/24 The Final Ultimatum

Please permit me to play the Devil's Advocate for a moment in defense of Ed. 

First off, men tend to be wired differently than women when it comes to child rearing.  They marry quicker after widowhood, especially when there are children involved, why ? Because they really don't know how to care for their children. 

Now before fathers ( and mothers) get up on their soapboxes, permit me this, I see MANY more women pouring over childcare books, or reading up on child behavior and potential problems.  The majority of the time, Mom is the primary caregiver of the children, Dad isn't ( and that IS NOT to say that fathers are not involved in their children , I am merely stating the reality of life , there are more stay home moms, than there are stay home dads ). 

So it is painfully obvious, no one chose to read, or seek the advice of a professional, on dealing with grief in children, this child had no time to grieve for the breakdown of her family, and then the car wrek and being thrust on a woman who was obviously harbouring resentment toward the child, then for this woman to be beating her ? 

But, Ed NEEDS to get out, and bring his daughter home with him, he NEEDS to learn to be a parent, but that being said, he NEEDS to work out his own issues of guilt, and grief BEFORE he can expect to be an effective parent to her, she needs him, but he is no good to her if he is going to blame her for the breakdown of his second marriage. 

At least Barbara was honest enough to admit on national television that she beat the child, and that she hated the child, maybe he needed to see that, who knows, but to her I would say, a six year old cannot vocalize her feelings effectivly, CHILDREN ACT OUT !!!! Behavior and temperment all suffer when a child is under undue stress, BEATIN A CHILD WILL NOT HELP, it will only make the situation worse, GROW UP, a child will repeat everything you DON"T want them to repeat at the worse times, you have a child of your own, you should know that, but I caught the comment about what a great disciplinarian you are, and I can only assume, your own child has felt the sting of the belt as well. 

To Ed I would say, what in god's name is wrong with you, and why the hell didn't you press charges for that ?Why did you not INSIST that your child be treated like you treat your wife's child ? She made it cleatr she wouldn't tolerate it, then why do you ? 

Because, men are scared of being alone, we women usually have other friends and family slose by to offer support and help, we are the ones who will seek out the doctors and books to help us, men are scared of asking, or have this naive notion that any woman is happy to raise a child from his first marriage, not all women are going to be thrilled with that, though with a second marriage, it might start out being just weekends, but as this case shows, tradgedy can and does strike, one has to prepare. 

Sorry for the ramble, just my thoughts on the whole deal, but the one who suffers most for it, is that child, she neither deserved it, nor did she ask for it, and it's about time someone took a stand for her, HER FATHER!!!!


 
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