Topic : Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

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Created on : Thursday, June 30, 2005, 12:50:41 pm
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Is spanking a necessary evil or can you discipline effectively without physical punishment? Sound off about spanking.

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January 28, 2008, 11:16 am PST

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

Quote From: charise820

I can't tell you the times my face was slaped.  and I am stoping it....but i have to say that when I get really mad there are times I have to take myself out of the situation and come back later because I see myself turning into my mother!!!!

I will not do to my children what she did to me!!!...I will not bounce my son's head of a metal door because they left something on a counter and i didn't like it.

Sorry but I can't and will not do it!  this cycle or hurting our children and telling them it was because the deserved it.....kids act up it's part of them being a child.  it is our job as parents to rase the to know right from wrong and morals. and if you hit them you are teaching them it is ok to hit.

Thats why the one year old I baby sit hits my cat, my dogs, and my children and me because that is what they do with him and they teach it is ok to do this. I am sorry it's not.

He is a year old and they slap his month when he bits.  so then he slaps my sons face...my son told him no when taking a toy away.

I understand how you feel. I do spank someties but my son does not go around hitting people either. About the slapping a baby on the face because he bites is wrong. Slapping a baby or child on the face for any reason is wrong. What I do when my son bites me I tell him in a stern voice no no that hurts mommy, it seems to work. The only reason why my son bites at all is one he is still teething and two when he gives kissing he sometimes uses his teeth, and he has to kiss people's noses. He made me tear up a couple times from that.

 

About your other post, I do know how you feel because I too was physically abused. I am convinced my mother has mental problems along with anger management problems. I still can not stand to hear a belt being snapped. I am determined to never be like my mom and I never spank my child when I am angry or upset. I think that is the big difference between spanking and beating.

 
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January 28, 2008, 12:44 pm PST

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Spanking......no!!!!!

I remember being spanked....with a blet, hand, and even a wooden cutting board.

And i wasn't a horrible child....i got spanked with a belt when I was about 4 or 5 because I touched (touched)  a cable cord that was comming out my wall by my bed. I wasn't told no don't touch that I was grabed by the arm and beaten with a belt.  Sorry but that was wrong.

I have even gotten beaten with a wooden cutting board for nothing I did only because I was the oldest and my brother did something wrong and it wasn't fair he got spanked and I didn't do anything.

I have been spanked before to the point I could walk or sit.  I am sorry I love my parents but I can't forget they did this to me.  this is especially for my mom as she was the one that did this more.  My dad I only remember once...and never again he found other ways to disapline us.

I love my boys to much to do this to the.  I have seen people spank babies as young as 6 months old for crying.

and for those that do spank ( i have read back so if you already answered this I am sorry)  how would you feel if someone spanked your child.

Anyone spanks mine that you bet the will hear from me and even the police!!!!
My parents were spankers, too. I carried resentments towards my mother because, like yours, she was the one who spanked the most. And, the punishment was overboard.
My mother would line us kids up and force us to watch her spank whichever sibling did something naughty. This was damaging, psychologically, because we loved one another and didn’t want to see one another hurt. We began to take the fall for one another over the stupidest little things- a habit that we still carry today.
 
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January 28, 2008, 1:06 pm PST

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

Quote From: jaimie1974

My parents were spankers, too. I carried resentments towards my mother because, like yours, she was the one who spanked the most. And, the punishment was overboard.
My mother would line us kids up and force us to watch her spank whichever sibling did something naughty. This was damaging, psychologically, because we loved one another and didnt want to see one another hurt. We began to take the fall for one another over the stupidest little things- a habit that we still carry today.
Oh I know what you mean.  everything growing up was my fault..i would get spanked for not doing my brothers  jobs around the house.

I can't begin to say the damage that has been from  my childhood with spankings and other things.

I got spanked on time for not cleaning the ktichen from ceiling to floor when I was 9 y.o.  Got spanked and head bounced of a metal door.  But it was for my own good....i need to learn a leason....what I learned was I wasn't good enough....that even though I did my best it was never good enough.

I know what you are talking about I wish I could say that I took the fall for my brother but my mom loved him to much to make him take the fall so it was fault.

your and this habits still carry to this day.   to this day i still can't have an honest talk with my mother for fear of making her mad and we live 1300 miles apart. 

And to this day she acts like she never did this.  I have learned to forgive but i haven't forgotten.  I fight ever day not to become her and it is hard.  I find I have anger that boils out. 
 
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February 8, 2008, 8:18 pm PST

Spanking..are you kidding me?

I am a mother of a 7 month old girl. I don not believe in spanking I actually think it's inhuman. I do not think it teaches any sort of a lesson, except that hitting is okay, if you are an adult, which in my opinion leads to emotional problems, and relationship problems. Why do parents feel hitting ther child is the only thing that gets the point across, i can't stand to see a parent spank when there child is having an emotional fall apart since when is it not okay to express our feelings, yes they should learn some self control, but come on people they are CHILDREN! I think if you are to the point where you feel the only way to make you're child listen to you is to physically hit them, then you probably need to get away from that child. I just wonder sometime how would you feel if everytime you acted unacceptable, someone picked up a belt or there hand and lashed out at you how would that make you feel....scared...angry....think about how that makes a small child feel, ecspecially in there own home where it is supposed to be safe.I was spanked, not beat spanked, and i do not think it helped either way. . I don't really care how people justify it i "popped" them or i barely did it...it is CHILD ABUSE in my opinon, however you want to make it out to be. If i was to walk up to you after you said something to me i did not like and i hit you, you would probably file charges against me or hit me back...come on parnets we lead my example, not by tradition!
 
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February 13, 2008, 12:51 pm PST

nothing wrong

I was spanked when I was younger with a paddle that had my name and my siblings names on it. I think getting our butts whipped now and then is what made us who we are today. I have 3 boys 7,5,4 and my daughter will be 2 in a month, and I am a single paretn. my kids need spankings once in a while, but there is a line between discipline and child abuse and you need to know where that line starts and ends.

 
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February 14, 2008, 1:14 pm PST

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

From the posts I have read, it appears the real issue is parents who spank out of anger, loss of control, or inability to discipline in any other way. I am a proponent of spanking, however, the few and rare times it has needed were for a specific purpose and very effective. I have never spanked in anger and it has never been excessive, for minor things, or ever left a mark. My son is 17 and has had three "spankings" in his entire life. The reason for that? I have been consistent in that what I say I will do, I do. (this applies to both promises and when I say discipline will be coming). My expectations are clear. There are times when a physical consequence is in order - it is unfortunate that parents do not know how to "spank" effectively or appropriately.  My daughter is an infant but I have no doubt that we will practice spanking with her as well, if need be.
 
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February 24, 2008, 11:28 am PST

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

Quote From: annieorwell

Even if someone was for spanking I think it's pretty broadly accepted that that is just too old for that. He's old enough to talk to.

If it was MY child talking back to me I would just start taking things away from him...as Dr Phil says, find his price. Take away video games, TV, take away toys, if you have to strip his room to just a bed and blanket and pillow.

I have an 8 year old nephew who talks back, he gets spankings and he gets hit and screamed at...and you know what? It simply doesn't work. He just doesn't care. All he does is learn to talk back from father away so he can run. It just seems, from what I have seen that they learn that screaming and hitting just happens...so what to them you know? His attitude is "so what, mom and dad are screaming again...big deal. So what mom and dad swatted me again." He can just go to his room and play games or play with his Lego's...what does he care?


thank you

i have taken tv priveleges away and also his favorite stuffed animals

but then he starts acting good and i give the priveleges back.

is there a time frame where he should not have them even when he is good?

 

 
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February 24, 2008, 11:32 am PST

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

Quote From: trina98

I was spanked when I was younger with a paddle that had my name and my siblings names on it. I think getting our butts whipped now and then is what made us who we are today. I have 3 boys 7,5,4 and my daughter will be 2 in a month, and I am a single paretn. my kids need spankings once in a while, but there is a line between discipline and child abuse and you need to know where that line starts and ends.

well i do not abuse my son at all but it gets to a point when he starts mouthing off i just dont know what to do.

i have popped him in the mouth for talking back but that doesn't seem to help. he doesn't feel good and I feel guilty for doing it. I have actually contacted his school counselor and see what advice she has to give.

she wants to get a picture of what he is doing and then she will talk to him.

he is 9 and want to stop this before he gets any older.

any advice?

 

 
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April 3, 2008, 10:53 am PDT

Would you rather have your children hit by a car or have a sore butt?

 have 3 beautiful children, ages 11,13, & 15. They are all doing very well in school. They are all virgins and trust me, that's not ignorant mom speaking, I know they are. None of them drink, none of them do drugs. They even ask permission before they cuss! They all love me with everything they have in them.  They even still call for me to come kiss them and tuck them in every single night before they go to bed. Ok, really, I'm not bragging, this is why I think they are like this:

1. I am not afraid to bust their butts. Throughout their entire lives, the only time they've ever gotten a spanking was if they were in danger of hurting themselves or someone else. I would rather bust their butts for running out in a parking lot than have them hit by a car.

2. Any time they are in trouble for anything else, I discipline them in various ways. I will ground them, make them write an apology letter to whoever they offended, tie them together until they say 10 things nice about the other person or I make them write sentences. Time out NEVER worked for them.

3. If they lie, they get the soap. My children do not lie. Everybody who knows my children crack up because they will tell on themselves for doing something wrong that I would have never found out about. They could be in California with their dad and I'm in Oklahoma and they will call me to tell on themselves. They will still get in trouble for doing wrong but it's not the degree of trouble they get in for lying.

4. I have NEVER lied to my children. They ask about sex, I give them the straight up facts. They asked about condoms, I went and got one from my husbands drawer and showed them how to use one. My belief is, they're going to find out anyway and if they come to me first and I lie, the trust will be broken and they won't believe anything I say anymore and will have no reason to come to me.

5. There is a rule in my home. They know that I want them to wait for marriage to become sexually active, however I became sexually active at age 11 and had my first child at age 15, all three by 19. I'm not stupid. So we have an agreement that if they feel it's getting to that point in a relationship (especially with two of them being boys), they can come to me, they will not get in trouble, I will not judge them, I will simply give them the proper information they need to do make sure they do it safely.

6. If my kids were to ever get caught ditching school, I would go to school with them the next day in my pajamas and bunny slippers with curlers in my hair and spend the entire day with them like that. It hasn't happened but they know I'm just crazy enough to do it.

7. Finally, I use my life experiences. I don't say DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO. I tell them, look, I had sex when I was your age, I had 3 kids before I was 19. Though I don't regret having my children, I wish I had waited longer. My husband is a felon. He's cleaned his life up but before I met him, he did drugs, he sold drugs, he went to jail for 4 months. His life is forever changed because 1 time he was caught with drugs. I've known alot of people who did drugs. The children have also known of these people and when the drugs come up to bite them in the butt, I make sure my children know why they are in that position.

 

It all comes down to having good communication with your children. If you treat them with respect, they will do the same. But respecting them also means a good spanking when it's called for. I've had DHS at my door for two reasons, the first was for spanking, they decided I did nothing wrong, the second was for the soap in the mouths, they also told me that was fine as long as I wasn't pouring a whole big ol' bottle of dishsoap down their throats. If you don't spank your kids at every turn, they can't call it abuse. My plan may not work for everybody but I hope it helps somebody.

 

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April 3, 2008, 2:17 pm PDT

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

Quote From: poetmom

Spanking isn't an option for everyone, and there are plenty of other ways to get the same results without ever having to put a hand on your child in that way. Mine are 19, 15 and 12, and I have never had to spank any of them....and yet they consistently have gotten compliments on their behavior, both with me and away from me. They learned self-control and self-policing at a very early age through having things explained to them, and that seemed to be what worked best with their personalities and temperaments. They didn't take well to just being told that something wasn't allowed...they wanted to know what could happen to them if they did it, or why I thought it wasn't a good idea, and things like that. Then, once they processed the reasoning behind the rule, they had no problem complying. They still, as teens, prefer to discuss and understand rules rather than just have them given to them, and that still results in few, if any, breakage of rules, so we stick with it.  :)

 

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When those of us who did spank i child we also speak to them and explain why what they did was wrong and what could happen and what consequences would follow if that continued that behavior.  also, I don't think a child should be spanked much beyond five. Not all people who spank follow that and what they are probably doing is beating their child and if not there will still be the problem of only knowing they got spanked and not why.  I'm glad you raised 3 without every spanking,  you derserve much praise.  But I found it a little hard to reason with a 2year and 3year old not at 4 reasoning worked better with one of my children but not my boy. My children follow my rules because they know there are consequences.  But then again, I always told them there are three major rules:

1. Don't lie

2. Don't steal

3. Don't disrespect people

the rest could always be worked out.  There has been too many of "the rest"  because most things are covered in the 3 major rules.

 

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