Topic : Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

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Created on : Thursday, June 30, 2005, 12:50:41 pm
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Is spanking a necessary evil or can you discipline effectively without physical punishment? Sound off about spanking.

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May 16, 2008, 9:31 pm PDT

Spanking

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I would like start off by saying I'm against spanking. However I was able to relate to the mother in the start of the show. I have just become a single stay at home mother of three young children. I'm going to be very honest in saying I have never had to deal and care for my children on my own until just recently. I have not spanked my children yet but I do feel stressed to the point where I do want to walk out and have even thought about spanking to discipline my children. When I heard the show topic I thought "great, maybe this show can help me with my problem". By the time the show ended I was disappointed. All that happened was they discussed the problem the family was going through but didn't really give advice of how to solve the problem. A family therapist was suggested, but what about some advice for the mothers who can't afford to go to counseling.
I believe in spanking.  If your child isat my house they are under my rules.  I believe that parents now a days use the school as babysitters.  Some get mad because they have days off or they picket.  Kids back in my day respected all adults so we knew not to disrupt the class but today kids have no respect and wil tell you. I only had to spank my son once and ground him only once.  There were some things that were not tolerated and they knew what they were.
 
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May 16, 2008, 9:32 pm PDT

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

I think that spanking is a personal choice and is sometimes needed! I don't think that you should abuse a child but a spanking on the butt has never hurt anybody! Children these days are not afraid of anybody or any consequence because there usually are none. Mothers baby there children too much and thats why they act like they do! Time Out? What good does that do? My daughter is 8 and very mature and would laugh if I gave her a 8 minute time out!
 
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May 16, 2008, 9:32 pm PDT

Teachers better not physically touch my child

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By the look of the tape during the show, she's teaching Middle or High School age.  Even if a person supports spanking, that's way too old for that type of treatment!
Teachers are educated to teach.  I would flip out if my child was spanked by an educator. 
 
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May 16, 2008, 9:32 pm PDT

about the spankings

My son will never be spanked at school or by anyone ever again. Last year I trusted the school ,until they beat him with a paddle. I had to carry him to the doctor and he could not sit down for a week. The doctor said it was from a spanking. He carried bruses and marks for at least a month. I carried it to a lawyer but after he was going to take it he figured out he was friends with the judge. So i still have the pictures and the police report and everything. I was told that i could sue the school and the man that did it,and if i did'nt my son could when he turns 18. Its a shame that we send our kids to school to learn, and in return we have to worry if they are being beat! I know God will punish him for this. O and after i filed the police report the principal turned in his notice the next day. So  you tell me that he didn't do this,why was he leaving if he didn't?
 
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May 16, 2008, 9:39 pm PDT

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

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Ok people, listen up! I feel so strongly on this particular issue that I did something I never have before just so I could post my thoughts I registered on a web site. Really folks, think about this....., if a man be it boyfriend, husband, or what have you hits a woman and she calls the authorities what will happen to that man?....even if she decides at the last moment she does not want to press charges?......Cuff 'em, cause that bad boy is going to jail, read him his rights, you are under arrest buddyboy..., don't hit your head getting into the cruiser now. So, what possible sane arguement can be made for it to be ok to hit your or any other child?!!! And I sure do believe that it should be against the law to do so just as it is to commit spousal abuse. Abuse is abuse is abuse is....well you get my point.
Totaly agree!!!!
 
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May 16, 2008, 9:44 pm PDT

Do you think it is ok for an educator to spank your child?

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I think that spanking is a personal choice and is sometimes needed! I don't think that you should abuse a child but a spanking on the butt has never hurt anybody! Children these days are not afraid of anybody or any consequence because there usually are none. Mothers baby there children too much and thats why they act like they do! Time Out? What good does that do? My daughter is 8 and very mature and would laugh if I gave her a 8 minute time out!
NO WAY!!!!
 
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May 16, 2008, 9:44 pm PDT

Spanking at School

 I remember when I was in elementary school, the principal had a wooden paddle hanging on his wall. I was in second grade and almost got a paddling because of something I didnt even do. I would not let a teacher or principal paddle my child, no matter what. Because of my experience, it can scar you forever.
 
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May 16, 2008, 9:45 pm PDT

Psychological Damage Can Last for Decades

Dear Dr. Phil - I would like to thank you for sheddling light on this issue. The only way we're going to be able to heal it is to bring it out in  the open, and I know its going to be a hot topic.

When I was growing up in the 1950s, I suffered a mother that was constantly taking her frustrations out on me in the form of spanking, most of the time without warning. She not only spanked often, but also released her rage in other ways. One time she threw a toy piano at me and had I not ducked, it would have cause some serious damage. When the piano hit the bedroom wall, it dented the wall. I don't think I was in grade school when that happened. Another time she came after me with a pancake spatula, my only crime was I missed the school bus and had walked home from school, I still have the scar on my arm to this day. I was about 12 years old, my step-father caught my mother in the act and after that she never came after me.

As I got older, around 30 years of age, I was having some sort of psychloigical trauma, I was hyperventilaiting frequently, and there were times I just wanted to jump out a window. Fortunatley, someone recommended a wonderful therapist and we began unraveling the emotional damage from growing up in this type of environment. I was in therapy off and on for about three years. One of the therapists I saw said I was suffering from a condition very similar to post tramatic stress disorder. What is even more damaging is later on I shared with my mother about the therapy sessions and how all this effected me. Her only comment was if she had to do it all over again, she would still do it the same way.

To this day, I will not let my mother touch me. I won't hug her, I won't touch her, I won't hold her hand. I'm 55 and she is 92. I still have a compulstive eating problem which I struggle with daily, and I haven't been able to develop a romantic relationship for nearly 20 years now. Can I attribute all this directly to the constant spankings and beatings? Like Dr. Phil said in his program, how can you expect a child to love you when you instill fear in them? I feel like fear is permantely hardwired into my body, like I'm always on "orange alert."

I look forward to more broadcasts on this topic and some positive examples for parents on how to discipline their children. In addition to Dr. Phil's show, I think Super Nanny is also a great step forward to help with this issue, and set some positive examples for parents. I hope more programs like these continue to air.
 

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May 16, 2008, 9:49 pm PDT

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

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NO WAY!!!!

"A spanking on the butt has never hurt anybody"??????  Are you kidding???? Read the message people are writing.   Events from 10, 20 40 years ago.... yes they do hurt, forever!

 
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May 16, 2008, 9:50 pm PDT

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

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discipline is something all of us need in life, it is something that is needed to keep us on the right track. discipline for children is about teaching and guiding them into learning right from wrong, learning to make good choices and helping them become good and productive adults. All of us as parents have differnet views and experiences and what works for one child may not work for another, whether a parent spanks or not should not be the determining factor on whether we think a parent is a good parent or not, but looking at the children and seeing what is being accomplished with them, in their attitudes, their behaviors, their relationships with their parents/family and how they treat others can be keys in determining how a parent is doing with their child but at the same time realizing that children are not alike and some are harder then others to discipline and in that case, chances are the parent has not sought out the "right" discipline for that child. I think some people are too quick to judge becasue they do not agree with a technique. I personally do not have a problem with spanking as I have spanked on a few occasions, a swat on the diaper, but for the most part, I have found that rediercting, taking something away for a period of time (for my four year old, she loses priveleges), and communication and consistency is definetly imporant keys in disciplining our children. children need to know what they did wrong and why they are being disciplined. My four year old always knows these things and though she will throw a temper cause she has lost a privelege, she knows it is a waste of time that I am not gonna give in. Lucky for me, I have two easy kids who do not require too much discipline but they do know that the boundaries are not meant to be crossed, my two year old is a little harder but catching on. :) There are many resources out there to help parents and it is too bad that there are many not seeking out those resources, none of us are perfect but it is possible to raise good productive kids into becoming great adults, it isn't a matter of whether you spank or not, it is a matter of knowing your child and seeking out what will help them to grow and to mature and for myself personally, I am not afraid to change my technique if needed. We need to ask our selves if what we are doing is helping our kids, if it isn't then something is wrong. I know people who came from both sides of the issues and those with good loving parents who had the children's interests as a top priority, are great productive loving adults, some have fallen through the cracks of very bad parenting, some were spanked and some were not. definetly working in the inner city with all classes of people have opened my eyes when it comes to parenting. And of course there are always exceptions......(some kids who grow up in great loving homes end up on the other side as well as some who come from abusive situations come out on the good end of things which I am a good example of that). I believe I personally am a good parent as well as my husabnd, not perfect but we are content with the way things are going in our house hold, and every one is happy and easy to live with.
 I was rased by my grandparents and they did not beleve in spanking, they did beleve in time out . And my grandmother was blined.  And her  time out, was always when my favorite tv show was on. She would tell me to be quiet for one minute. (knowing what I know now, the only thing i would have missed would have been just the credits not the whole show)  My grandmother woulld  go outside and put up the cloaths on the closeline and I would not dare to move off the chair. Untill she came in and told me i could move.  One day they had me visit my  biological mother, and her husband  and there two boys.  I gess i should state our ages  I was about  6  and they were 4 and 5 and they would constantly fight,.  There father told me to stop them,and I would only stand by and  look at him like (your there father its your job to stop them, not myne)  I'm not dum enough to even try.  So he gave them a licken with the belt for fighting,  and he gave me a licking for not stoping them.. After he would walk up the hall, after a few minutes I started to get them laughing and when i heard him coming I started crying again and i did that about 5 times. .And ever since that day he gave me a lickin with the belt i was and still am scared of him. And when my grandmother told me I would never have to go there agin.  I was happy.  I should also tell you, that my half brothers were both brought up with the belt.  And both did things that got them jailed, and  when the youngest one maried she straighted him out .  I am the only one that graduated, my older sister quite about a week before graduation.  She only had to show up for a week, and she would graduate.    I gess thats enough
 

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