Topic : Debating Among Different Religious Beliefs

However, I'm still of the opinion that if the fetus could be removed harmlessly and kept in a womb simulated incubator to mature.....I would feel better about it....and yet....imagine the extraordinary cost. 

i believe that there is work on this.  not sure if it has worked.  but I believe it's one of those things in the work I want to say I have read or seen on the discovery channele somewhere. 

I have also heard or transplaneting urtiuses (sp) into woman who's unterus doesn't work.  i think this is great. 

Honestly I would love for them to find a way for men to be carry a child if the woman couldn't or didn't want to.  It would be just one more opition out there.
 

Deaths from legal and illegal abortions...

The website of Planned Parenthood states:

In the two decades before abortion was legal in the United States, nearly one million women went “underground” each year for illegal operations. Thousands died for lack of medical care.[132]

* No sources are cited for the statements above. According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, whose death statistics from legal abortions have been accepted and used by Planned Parenthood,[133] [134] [135]  in the year before Roe v. Wade (1972), there were 39 deaths from illegal abortions. In the year after Roe v. Wade (1974), there were 26 (maternal) deaths from legal abortions.[136]

For more information...

http://justfacts.com/abortion.asp

Effects of abortion on future pregnancies...

* A 2007 paper in The Journal of Reproductive Medicine cites 59 studies that exhibit a statistically significant association between abortion and the risk of premature births in subsequent pregnancies. In five of the largest and more recent of these studies, all found increases in premature births before 32 weeks gestation in women who had an abortion. All of these studies also found that this risk escalated when more than one abortion was performed.[181] Children born before 32 weeks gestation are at increased risks for early death, cerebral palsy, blindness, deafness and other health complications.[182

Effects of abortion on emotional health...

* In 2008, the Los Angles Times reported:

Several studies published in peer-reviewed medical journals suggest that women who have had abortions are more prone to depression or drug abuse. But the research does not prove cause and effect, [said Nada Stotland, president-elect of the American Psychiatric Association]. It may be, she said, that women who have abortions are more emotionally unstable in the first place.[190]

* The California study cited above controlled for mental disorders by eliminating those women who had been treated for a psychiatric problem in the year prior to their childbirth or abortion. When this was done, it was found that women who had an abortion were about 3.3 times more likely to commit suicide in the eight years following this event than women who delivered a child:

Statutory rape and abortionists...

* A sexual relationship between a 22-year-old man and a 13-year-old girl is illegal in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.[359] All states have laws requiring healthcare and other workers who interact with children in a professional capacity to report suspected cases of child abuse, which in 29 states and the District of Columbia, explicitly includes a sexual relationship between a 22-year-old man and a 13-year-old girl.[360]

* In 2002, Life Dynamics, an organization dedicated to ending legal abortion,[361] phoned more than 800 Planned Parenthood and National Abortion Federation abortion clinics and offices. In these calls, a woman from Life Dynamics told workers at these facilities that she was 13-years-old, had been impregnated by her 22-year-old boyfriend, and wanted to get an abortion to hide the situation from her parents.[362]

* In more than 90% of the phone calls, the Planned Parenthood and National Abortion Federation workers did not act to report the matter.[363]

* Some workers encouraged the caller to come in for the abortion and lie about the age of the person who impregnated her.[364]

* Some workers told the caller that they were required to report the situation, but weren’t going to do so.[365]

* In states that have parental notification laws, some workers told the caller to find a person who was old enough to impersonate one of her parents and have them sign the required paperwork. In one state that requires a notarized signature from a parent, a worker told the caller that the facility had a notary public who would notarize a fraudulent signature for her.[366]

I really do admire ur convictions, it's good to see these days.

But, something I keep wondering is- don't u think the claims of rape would skyrocket? There r already females that lie about this, which puts the real victims of these crimes in a negative light.

Sounds to me like Planned Parenthood understands all the bs a sexually abused child may face if she is forced to tell her parent (most likely her mother) that she was raped by her father, step father, uncle etc., and is trying to actually HELP the child.

I would guesstimate that about 95% of the time a sexually abused child becomes pregnant by a family member(most often father or step father) the mother will NOT help her in any way shape or form.  The mother will blame the child for the adults actions. 

Reporting sexual abuse of a child is of course the right and proper thing to do however in the real world it doesent often do any bit of good.  It is NOT the be all end all answer to child sexual abuse.  Most times it only works against the child and makes it all the worse for them.  It is a very rare situation where the mother of a sexually abused child actually gives a flying fig.  Time after time after time the child gets blamed and is left with no options.  Even law inforcement doesent seem to give much of a care. 

At least there is someplace a 13 yo child can turn to where they actually UNDERSTAND the horrors most sexually abused children face and are willing to help them even if it means breaking the law.  Maybe if these childrens mother acted in the proper way regarding these situations Planned Parenthood wouldnt be forced to take such drastic measures.  But Planned Parenthood has to deal with the real world, not some random Pollyanna idea of how things are.  In the real world, 95% of the time(if it not more) it is the abused child who gets the shaft while the abuser and their co consipirator get away scott free.  You can argue the rights and wrong of this till the cows come home but it wont change the FACTS on how most mothers react to the sexual abuses their husbands inflict upon their child/ren.

I say good for Planned Parenthood to step up and help out when the REALITY is that is most likely the one and only place these abused pregnant children will find ANY help at all.