Topic : Debating Among Different Religious Beliefs

you have seem to forgotten that I am not an atheist.  This isn't about if god exists, its about the flaws in Christian concepts of god. 

hehe, this caught my eye from the first page.

Hey guys...I have actually read all the new posts about God's omipotence and the like...whenever this question comes about for me...honestly I have to remember that (as I believe) I am not God...and how can I, as the creation, possibly completely understand God....quite frankly He is too big...I agree with Marie that this discussion becomes futile because no one but God, is God....I always go back to Job when he questioned God's allowing so much suffering in his life...basically God said...ain't none of your business....your job is to choose for me or against me...see Job 38-39.....just because it doesn't make sense to our small minds (in comparison with God's mind) doesn't mean it is not...you can't put God in a box with a nice neat label....if you could, He would not be God.

Resurrection does not erase death...no more than winning a battle erases the battle....victory does not erase the suffering....I sure wouldn't want to be beaten, scourged, mocked, and crucified as Jesus was....only God could humble Himself to become human.....He put Hisself in our shoes...not for Himself but so that we could better understand Him, be able to be with Him, and to show how much He loved us....Judas' death was of his own doing, by suicide...I don't think not betraying Jesus would've stopped Jesus' crucifixtion...the government was already pretty ticked with him, they just found Judas' weakness for money.

Turk,

 

I am always working on broadening and never closing my mind towards all things (be it spiritual or scientific or psychological etc)..........therefore in the new year I will make a concerted effort to better understand and learn about Pantheism.  I am not saying that I will suddenly convert etc, just that I would like to get a deeper grasp on this philosophy / religious belief.

 

Ha ha!  Just another possible avenue for me to explain away my very broad accepting mind.  Some accuse me of being to open.....too much of a Smorgasboarder.  Ya know?  Where I choose only what I prefer.........ha ha!  If one only really thought about how much of a burden it truly is in NOT adhering to ONE singular faith or belief! 

 

I am constantly ridiculed, or *kindly ribbed* <yeah right> by family in my following my own path.  Oh well, I'm a happy camper since doing this, for the very first time in my life!  This is where I'm NOT trying to sound all righteous etc Turk..........this is where I have a great deal of respect for you.  You Turk, are IMO taking your own path!  Yours alone and no one elses, that is very very cool I think.

 

Take care Turk,

 

Fredi

 

 

 

I believe in the second coming of Christ.

When Jesus comes to take His followers to heaven, the dead will be risen.  Does that make their deaths only "half-baked? "

 

 

I do have sympathy for Judas, as well as Satan. I think they are two of the more sympathetic characters in  Christianity.

Where oh where has Cheryl gone?

I was wondering the same thing! Cheryl! Where are you?!

Is this because you see their lives as fated or predestined instead of chosen paths?

 

I find it a paradox that you see some people as having murdered and that turns in their "human race card" with no sympathy for them, yet you see Judas and Satan as being destined for their destruction and sympathize with them.....or am I missing something?