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June 18, 2006, 5:25 pm PDT

Things That Worked For Us

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 Hello I am a 34 year old mother of 3 and I have a realy big problem. My 16 year old son got his girlfriend pregnent and I told him that He wasn't going to move in with her or on his own and now he says  it is our fault that he can't see his baby 24 hours a day. We told him not to mess around and if he did get her in trouble that that would not change what we had already told him. He thinks we are being unfair. So can some one please tell me what you would do? He is only 16 and I know he wants to be with his child but he don't drive have a job and we won't let him get married.
Thanks for the response. We have been going back and forth, but the thing is I was married and was a virgin when I got married. I thought I raised him better then that. I know they need guidence and that is why I am afraid to go ahead and let them be together. She acts like she is 13 or 14 years old instead of 18. She don't want him to go any where or talk to any one. He is so unhappy when he is with her, yet he says he loves her. I just don't understand. I learned the hard way about life and I have tried to show him better so I don't know where we went wrong. I believe she planed to get pregnent and so does her mother, she found a book full of baby names that she had made up. She tells him not to worry after he is 18 then he is all hers. She dosn't act stable at all and that scares me.
 
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June 22, 2006, 7:11 am PDT

Desperate mom and wife

I have recently bought the family first audio book. I am half way through it. It is an awesome book. Anyways I have yet to put it to use for me. I will let you know how things get .  I have decided to leave my husband because he and our son do not get along at all. My husband yells at my son for being a boy. the simplest things my son does upsets his father. This has been going on ever since my son turned 4. They cannot find common ground nor can they say anything positive about one another. I feel as if I am the ref when they get into a confortation. I am tired of being in the middle of their arguments. I have tried to sit both of them down and have them talk to one another again I am in the middle. I cannot no I will not stand for it anymore. Please  Help me and the males in my life 

thank you to all who respond to my plea.  

Jennifer 

 
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June 26, 2006, 7:38 pm PDT

Things That Worked For Us

Quote From: leolibra69

Hi Amy, 

Things here got worst my husband and I are fighting more and we cannot agree on anything. My son and him do not get along at all. I am the  middle man between them. I feel like i have to choose between them. I hate the fighting the arguing . I have had it i am about to tell him I have had it and that we are through. I cannot choose over my 13 yr son over my husband I do not think I should or need to. The fighting is destroying my daughters they are 8 and 14 my youngest daughter said she wishes her dad was not here that way there would be no yelling or fighting. 

Amy Please help me. 

Sincerely Jennifer 

I would suggest that you take the kids and move out of the situation, I am not saying divorce at this point but seriously you need to get the kids out of that atmosphere, believe me, I grew up around yelling and fighting and I know how it can make a kid feel, Your kids deserve to feel loved, respected and safe and at this point, it doesn't sound like they are getting that..........................You need to keep communication lines open with your husband and tell him exactly how and why you feel the way you do, be honest and listen to him as well, communication is a very imporant key in a marriage...........Document everything that your kids say and do and show it all to him and let him know how this is affecting the family and ask him to seek counseling with you and even if he does not agree to do it, then you need to go yourself, help yourself and hopefully he will see the damage that he is casusing, it could be a wake up call for him to want to fix this. it may not be a bad idea to get the kids a little counseling as well, they need to vent and get their feelings and issues out as well, better now then a few years down the line...........Your marriage does not have to be over but it is going to take work on both sides to maek it loving and lasting, There has been people save their marriages with worse things then this but it took time, effort and working together to maek it happen but it took one to step up to the plate and some times that means tough love and leaving could be the move to start healing and making things right for everyone.Do everything possible to make things work, I agree with Dr. phil that one needs to earn their way out of a marriage basically mean that everything they could do was done to save the marriage, do everything you can and in the end no matter what the outcome may be, you will know that you tried every option to make your marriage work, and of course you have to want it bad enough to make the hard effort........................
 
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June 29, 2006, 9:03 am PDT

New Family - Problem with One

My fiance has one daughter - 10 yr old girl.  I have two children - 13 yr old girl and 8 yr old boy.  We moved in together last October and are planning on getting married next year.  We now have three children to try to raise equally when our parenting/discipline has been separate until now.  I have always been strict with my two children.  I believe that if you raise your children with structure to begin with, then that is something that is constant and that they understand.  My fiance has raised his daughter differently.  He has been a single parent and the mother has not been involved with his daughter.  He is strict with her at times but doesn't always follow through with the rules or punishment.  

  

Here is my problem that I hope someone can help me with.  My fiance's daughter has been constantly telling lies.  When she is caught in a lie she does get punished, usually grounding or losing privledges.  The same goes for my kids.  Last night, we went to a friends house for a few hours and my oldest babysat.  We came home to find that one or more of the children were in our bedroom and stole money out of our change can.  This morning, we brought all three in our room and asked who was in there.  All three denied being in our room, of course (we expected that).  We then told each of them to get their wallets and purses.  My fiance went with my son and I went with the girls.  When my fiance's daughter handed me a small purse filled with change, she instantly said that it was her change from a while ago.  To make a long story short, my fiance's daughter finally owned up to being in our room (without the other kids knowing) and taking the change. Through this, she has now lied to us twice and stole from us.  We want to set an example for all the kids and be fair with the punishment but, what is appropriate punishment for stealing.    

  

We are extremely upset that she would do something like this! This morning, we took the kids to the Boy's & Girl's Club and told her to think about what she had done.  We also told her to think about what she thought a fair punishment should be.  I know that I would be extremely hard on punishment if it was one of my kids but, I have the feeling that my fiance is not going to be that hard on her.  If anyone has dealt with something similar, please help!  

 
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July 12, 2006, 1:51 pm PDT

In the same boat...

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My fiance has one daughter - 10 yr old girl.  I have two children - 13 yr old girl and 8 yr old boy.  We moved in together last October and are planning on getting married next year.  We now have three children to try to raise equally when our parenting/discipline has been separate until now.  I have always been strict with my two children.  I believe that if you raise your children with structure to begin with, then that is something that is constant and that they understand.  My fiance has raised his daughter differently.  He has been a single parent and the mother has not been involved with his daughter.  He is strict with her at times but doesn't always follow through with the rules or punishment.  

  

Here is my problem that I hope someone can help me with.  My fiance's daughter has been constantly telling lies.  When she is caught in a lie she does get punished, usually grounding or losing privledges.  The same goes for my kids.  Last night, we went to a friends house for a few hours and my oldest babysat.  We came home to find that one or more of the children were in our bedroom and stole money out of our change can.  This morning, we brought all three in our room and asked who was in there.  All three denied being in our room, of course (we expected that).  We then told each of them to get their wallets and purses.  My fiance went with my son and I went with the girls.  When my fiance's daughter handed me a small purse filled with change, she instantly said that it was her change from a while ago.  To make a long story short, my fiance's daughter finally owned up to being in our room (without the other kids knowing) and taking the change. Through this, she has now lied to us twice and stole from us.  We want to set an example for all the kids and be fair with the punishment but, what is appropriate punishment for stealing.    

  

We are extremely upset that she would do something like this! This morning, we took the kids to the Boy's & Girl's Club and told her to think about what she had done.  We also told her to think about what she thought a fair punishment should be.  I know that I would be extremely hard on punishment if it was one of my kids but, I have the feeling that my fiance is not going to be that hard on her.  If anyone has dealt with something similar, please help!  

Hello, there!  I'm in the same boat and I understand what you are going through.  Some times in a blended family you get a lot of conflict over keeping discipline uniform and consistent.  My fiancee and myself have had these problem many a time.  A family disciplinary structure can actually be quite lopsided.  I thought all the kids in our family would follow the same rule base, but I was wrong.  Each individual child needs his/her needs ascertained, discussed and agreeded to and a program implemented to handle each occurring situation, as in your theft situation.  You might want to consult Dr. Phils Family First book on this matter.  Uniform codes of conduct don't seem to work in blended families, but if you lift up the hood on this family and tweak the rules to fit each child you will have a better structure to follow.  My future step-daughter for instance loves to talk back, its her form of expressing pent up emotions.  I dislike it.  I recognize that this is a unique part of her and ignore it when it isn't constructive, mostly, lol.  My sons do not talk back much, as I've always been strict on that matter.  Each child has different codes that require understanding.  Hang in there!!
 
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July 19, 2006, 1:12 am PDT

Bad reason to divorce.

Quote From: leolibra69

I have recently bought the family first audio book. I am half way through it. It is an awesome book. Anyways I have yet to put it to use for me. I will let you know how things get .  I have decided to leave my husband because he and our son do not get along at all. My husband yells at my son for being a boy. the simplest things my son does upsets his father. This has been going on ever since my son turned 4. They cannot find common ground nor can they say anything positive about one another. I feel as if I am the ref when they get into a confortation. I am tired of being in the middle of their arguments. I have tried to sit both of them down and have them talk to one another again I am in the middle. I cannot no I will not stand for it anymore. Please  Help me and the males in my life 

thank you to all who respond to my plea.  

Jennifer 

I'm sorry. You haven't given a good enough reason to leave your husband. Just because he doesn't get along with your son, or is the boy both of yours? Are you kidding me? Unless there is violence and object throwing, excessive language, etc., you are way overreacting. Your husband is an adult and you have no right to sit him down like a child. I hear lots of women on these message boards say how offended they were to be sat down by there husbands for fighting with these husband's daughters from previous marriages. Children manipulate, push and pull and attack relationships in the home. You and your husband must sit down and agree about discipline in the household. Don't put all this on his back and blame him for not getting along with your son. Secondly, why have you allowed a child to disrupt your household. Unless your husband is abusive and or an addict of some type, he must have good reasons for his anger. Find out what's going on. How do you help your son by taking away his role models? A lack of male role-models is not going to help him grow up and mature. Women make this mistake all the time and go out and look for a gentle man to foster their children and that poor guy is going to be picking up the pieces of your failure for the rest of his life and that isn't fair. It sounds like the battle ground between husband and wife just plays out in the son to father relationship and you arn't helping by picking sides and balancing your marriage over it as blackmail. Sit down with coffee, in a quiet room, with the kids at the grandparents and work out these issues. You and your husband, right or wrong, make the calls, not the kids. When your boy is 18, he is on his own and an adult. He needs to have a plan on how he will take care of himself, get an education, a job and find a place to stay. You need to let your husband raise a man, not a boy. Sorry, for being so hard on you. This just happens to families so much. Feminist tell women to raise their kids without the father and those boys grow up without that male role model to teach things that women can not teach men. How many men will you leave because your son doesn't agree with them. Stop now. It will not get better with a new guy. A divorce will destroy this family. Arguments are not evil. Arguments are communication, albeit intense in nature. Get the strength to sit your man down and sit your son down next and tell him that you won't tolerate his disrespecting the house rules or you husbands rules. If your husband needs anger management and or communication training, don't throw him out for that. You don't burn down the barn because the mule kicked out the door. Please, reconsider. 

 
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July 19, 2006, 1:21 am PDT

get tough.

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Hi, we have three boys 20, 18 and 11, they have never given us much trouble so we have never really had to inforce a huge punishment, our 18 year old who will be a senior next fall is very involved in sports namely weight room and football (football is a year round sport here). We had told him he needed to get at least a part time job because of the expense of gas and the expense of his g/f lol, well he got a job at a major factory for the summer where his dad works, six hour shift, good money 11.40 an hour and only 3-4 shifts a week, he has told us he flat out doesnt want to work til he is out of high school, instead of going for his drug screen and orientation today he called the woman and told her he didnt want the job, he left home like he was going but didnt, we are just so upset about this we dont even know where to begin with punishment, he has a fairly new truck that we bought him for his 18th birthday, so grounding him from driving anywhere but to weight room and football practice is the only thing we have come up with, is this enough?? any input would be helpful, we are not so much upset that he doesnt want THAT job but how he handled it, thanks

You punishment is too light. A couple of members have suggested taking away the truck if he doesn't get the job. Excellent. But go a little farther than that. Tell him that you are disappointed that he chose not to trust you with his feeling. And that he gonig to have to rebuild the trust. So, no special travel to girlfriend's house or friends until you are sure he is handling his responsibilities. Force him to come out and say how he's going to fix this problem. 

 
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July 19, 2006, 1:52 am PDT

The bible is book, not a parent...

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 A year and a half ago my husband and I obtained custody of my brother's child during his divorce.  He is a crystal meth user and his wife was irresponsible in the care of the child.  We petitioned the court and intervened in the divorce for custody.  She has done extremely well.  You can tell she enjoys the stability of our home.  We have and 18 YO and a 16YO.   Her grades have come up, she seems to love the structure in her life.  She sees and talks to her mom one weekend a month (by her mother's failure to communicate with her as we  would allow more phone contact or visits to our home if she desired).  One year ago my brother "disappeared" and has lost contact with her.  Her mother is destroying herself.  She has gotten two DUIs in a 3 1/2 month period.  My neice does well until the week before she goes to her mom's and is in "outer space".  She won't talk to anyone.  We tried counseling and she wouldn't open up.  Just last weekend she finally opened up to me after an eventful weekend with her mom (which I caught happening and removed her from with the help of the police).  I am now purusing her visitation rights to be restricted or revoked.  The child knows and says she understands that this has to happen to "help" her mom get her head on straight and the child's safety).  Our biggest problem right now (which is what this whole post is about now) is perpetual lying and trying to manipulate both sides.  She admitted to me she "works" both sides and tells everyone what they want to hear.  She knows our rules and has more than once broken them at her mother's house (just because her mom will let her b/c she knows it will make us mad) and she thinks she won't get caught.  Her mom lives a totally different life than we do.  She is into the trashy, drinking, back stabbing wild life that addicts live and the child has grown up in that and seems to enjoy the negative excitement.  So when she is with mom that's what they do.  I want to know how to punish her for her lying and deceptiveness.  We have caught her in lies and taken away the phone.  At this point that is her only interest. All summer she will sit here doing nothing unless I make her get "busy" with activities.  She has a X box she don't play with, won't ask friends over, would watch TV all day if I would let her and just sit around.  I have to make her go out and find a friend to hang out with in the neighborhood or ride her bike.  We have tried to do things like take away the phone (which was already in force at this time) but it seems like she constantly has that taken away so I think itis losing its effectiveness.  How do you discipline a kid like this who doesn't have any interests?  My discipline plan when my children were this age was restriction as they are very socially active with friends and church activities.  It's like I want to restrict her for punishment but she really needs more activities to teach her how to be a child so to me this is a very fine line.  I have considered her having to do a "report" on lying and its effects and reading what the Bible says.  She is a new Christian and doesn't really know these things yet.  I hate to "force" her to read the Bible with the fear she will go the other way.  I just don't want to do anything stupid as far as punishment but I know I have to get her attention and am at my wits end.  She keeps this household in turmoil with her "spaciness" etc and it is causing other family problems.  Any help would be appreciated. 

There are so many things you are doing wrong. You want her to have a childhood? What?! Her childhood is over. Seriously. Are you kidding? Her father did drugs, does drugs, uses, whatever. Her mother drinks and gets wild and crazy. She loves the lifestyle at her mom's. She lies and manipulates, breaks rules and plays both sides, has no interest in kids her age and is good at being extremely passive agressive. You are caught up in her game. You lose. Here's how to stop playing: 1. She is close enough to being an adult that she should have a plan to explain what she's going to do with her life, education, work, a place to stay. She must have a plan and your job is to help her form it a little. But, at 18, she has to know what she's doing and where she is going to stay. 2. Reading the bible will not solve her problems. She is laughing at you, you know that, right? Reading the bible will not impact her one little bit. I read the bible when I was young and let me tell you, it has no bearing on teenager's actions. You are fooling yourself. The bible is education and history and lessons and stories, not the end-all-be-all-sovle-all-tool. 3. What currency is importatnt to her? She has no friends and hates video games, so don't use that. You are a little confused. You want to take away friends, but you push her to find friends, huh? It's one way or the other. You might want to assign a long list of chores that must be completed before she retires each day. She is old enough to make her own breakfast, lunch and simple dinner. She can do her wash, clean her room, help clean up areas of the house, scrub the bathroom and mow the lawn. She can lose priviledges like new clothing, shoes, school items and other non-essentials until she is up to speed on chores. 4. She can have a time limit on each activity. Say, 4 hours of tv a week, 4 hours of phone a week, 6 hours of friends a week, 1 hour of internet a week, whatever. When she uses up the time, its gone. She can go read a book or volunteer to help the poor at the salvation army. 5. How about a part-time job? I had one at her age. She can keep her money to save up for her first apartment or education expenses. 6. Stop trying to control her mother's house. You are not god. Let the courts handle that. 7. Focus on her growing up as a responsible adult and stop playing her drama-gal game. You are hyper-sensitive to her situation and that doesn't allow for you to see situations level-headed. 8. Don't send her out the house just because she's been there all day. If she's handled her chores and is done with homework and has come home from her part-time job, who cares if she uses 2 hours of her tv time to veg-out. See how it works. Good luck. 

 
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August 1, 2006, 1:58 am PDT

Calling all blended families!!! Help!!!

I'd like to pose a question to any blended families out there. How have you opened communication with the kids of your significant other? Are there any tips, tricks, methods you've adopted that are helpful? I'd love to hear from you. Throw us dummies a bone. Thanks.

 
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August 1, 2006, 8:53 am PDT

Maybe adoption wasn't the answer

I am in a difficult situation. My husband adopted my son when he was two shortly after we were married. For the past 4 years, there has been constant turmoil in our house. My husband is extremely harsh and judgmental against our son and has begun to verbally abuse him by making fun of him when he is upset or by putting him down when he doesn't do something up to my husband's standards. I have even noticed that my husband watches him while he eats with this look of disgust so that he can yell at him when he does something wrong.

I have intervened on numerous occassions and have gotten no where. I have told my husband time and time again that I am my son's protector and he is overstepping that boundary. He should be his protector too and that isn't happening.

My son is 9 years old and has a sad look most of the time. He doesn't like to be home and prefers to be with his friends. The withdrawl from our family at 9 years old is really scaring me and I want my husband to realize that he can't continue with this behavior. My son was diagnosed as having ADD (non-hyperactivity). Because of that, he forgets things repeatedly, has a difficult time focusing in school and during projects, and easily gets frustrated and has problems with sleep sometimes when he is under pressure. This greatly frustrates my husband and he hasn't been proactive in helping my son deal with and overcome ADD. Instead, he just thinks a pill is the answer and tough love will straighten him out.

The other night, my son was doing something that my husband didn't approve of. Honestly, I can't even remember what it was. My husband looked at him and said, "you must be the stupidiest person in this house." I was floored and immediately went off on him as my son began to cry and stomp to his room. If this doesn't stop, I feel that in order to mend the broken spirit and self esteem of my son, I will need to leave my husband.

Counseling hasn't worked, us talking it out hasn't worked and repeated viewing of Dr. Phil hasn't worked.

Any advice on how to get my husband to wake up and appreciate the wonderful gift he has been given?

 

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