Topic : Things That Worked For Us

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September 5, 2006, 5:31 pm PDT

Whats the rest of the story?

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I WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS SHORT.BUT I REALLY NEED SOME ADVICE ON WHAT TO DO...I HAVE 2 CHILDREN....UNFORTUNATELY BY TWO DIFFERNT MARRIAGES ...THAT DIDNT WORK....MY 14 YEAR OLD LIVES WITH ME..AND MY 18 YR OLD LIVES WITH HIS FATHER...HOWEVER THE PROBLEMS STARTED WHEN MY 18 YR OLD WAS A YOUNG INFANT...HIS FATHER AND I HAD ALOT OF PROBLEMS..HE WAS ABUSIVE..AND THE REASON OUR RELATIONSHIP DIDNT WORK IS HE INSISTED ON SELLING DRUGS FROM THE HOME..AND I WOULDNT ALLOW THAT...MARRIAGE ENDED...FROM THE TIME MY SON WAS 2 TO THE AGE OF 9..HIS FATHER WAS IN AND OUT OF HIS LIFE..DIDNT PAY CHILD SUPPORT...AND TOTALLY IGNORED THE FACT HE HAD A SON...I WENT THRU  WITH MY..TEMPER TANTRUMS, HIM YELLING, SCREAMING..AND HAVING FITS..I SOUGHT COUNSELING..MY FAMILY TRIED TO HELP ME WITH HIM TO NO AVAIL...WHEN HE WAS 9 HIS DAD MET A WOMAN AND MARRIED..THATS WHEN HE BECAME SUPER DAD..HE EXCERCISED HIS EVERY OTHER WEEKEND VISITS, HE PAID CHILD SUPPORT...HOWEVER..MY SONS BEHAVIOR GOT WORSE..HE WANTED TO GO LIVE WITH HIS DAD...BUT HIS DAD KEPT TELLING HIM HE COULDNT BECAUSE I WOULDNT LET HIM....AFTER SO MUCH TURMOIL..I FINALLY ASKED HIS FATHER FOR HELP I HAD ANOTHER SON AT THAT TIME...DIVORCED AND COULD NOT HANDLE THE ACTIONS MY SON WAS GOING THRU..HIS FATHER AGREED TO TAKE HIM TO MOVE IN WITH HIM...I SIGNED A PIECE OF PAPER FROM THE LAWYER SO HE WOULDNT HAVE CHILD SUPPORT PROBLEMS..AND HE WOULD HAVE CUSTODY...WELL GOING ON 8 YEARS NOW..THEY CHANGED THERE PHONE NUMBER RIGHT AFTER THAT...I HAVE SENT MANY MANY LETTERS AND CARDS TO HIM...AND APPARENTLY HE IS NOT GETTING THEM...I SOUGHT A LAWYER A FEW YEARS AGO TO ARRANGE VISITATION...AND HIS STEP MOTHER SAID..CANCEL LAWYER..YOU CAN SEE HIM ANYTIME..WELL THEY ARRANGED A VISIT WITH HIM AT A PARK..AND I GOT TO SEE HIM FOR 10 MINUTES...AND DO YOU KNOW 1 HOUR AFTER THE VISIT..HIS STEP MOTHER CALLED ME AND SAID MY SON DIDNT WANT TO SEE ME ANYMORE..BECAUSE I GRABBED HIS ARM WITH FORCE?..I NEVER TOUCHED HIM..HIS STEP MOTHER HAS CALLED MY FAMILY MEMBERS AND TOLD THEM SOME REALLY AWEFUL LIES..THAT I USED TO BEAT HIM....I LEFT HIM AT THE BANK I WORKED AT ALL NIGHT..THAT IS NOT HUMANLY POSSIBLE...SHE DOESNT KNOW ME...SHE MET ME AND MY SON WHEN HE WAS 9..SHE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT MY LIFE WITH HIM..AND HAS CONJURED UP SO MANY LIES TO MY FAMILY HOW I TREATED HIM..AND HE HAS BELIEVED HER..HE HAS IT IN HIS MIND THAT I ABUSED HIM..THAT IF I CARED I WOULD OF SENT HIM MONEY OR GIFTS..LITTLE DID THEY TELL HIM..I HAVE BEEN WRITING TO HIM..THEY HAVE KEPT THAT FROM HIM...I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO...FRIENDS AND FAMILY SAY THAT HE IS 18 NOW..WHEN HE IS MATURE ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE TRUTH THEN HE WILL LOOK FOR ME..BUT I LOVE HIM SO MUCH..I CRY MYSELF TO SLEEP AT TIMES THINKING ABOUT HIM..I DONT WANT IT TO BECOME SO ABSORBED WITH THAT...MY OTHER SON NEEDS MY LOVE..MY CUP RUNNITH OVER....BUT MY SON HATES ME...AND I DONT KNOW WHY, HE WONT TALK TO ME..AND THEY WONT INFORM HIM I HAVE TRIED TO GET IN CONTACT WITH HIM..HE THINKS I HAVE DESERTED HIM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE LED HIM TO BELIEVE..I AM SORRY IF THIS IS ALL JABBER AND HARD TO MAKE SENSE OF..BUT I'M HURT AND NEED ADVISE.

My gosh you went court and/or lawyer/s for divorces and child support.  They made you let your sons dad have visitation.  Are you really that clueless or what is the rest of the story?

How could you not know you'd have the same rights?

You mentioned allowing your ex stop the child support since he was in fact raising and providing for his/your son.  Why was it OK for you to not pay child support?  Did you raise your son at any time or was family members doing it for you?

So many times people that have their priorities messed up, find a way to blame someone else, and I for one am tired of it.

No one, no how, would keep my daughter from me and I suspect the phone # change is just another  of your excuses.  How did you write to said son? Phone # changed boohoo well why the heck did you not drive to the address you claimed to mail all those letters to? 

Why was it OK to collect child support for years and not pay child support?

Maybe you are reaping what you sowed.

 
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September 8, 2006, 2:48 pm PDT

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The best book I ever read on discipline is "How to Make Your Children Mind Without Losing Yours."  I can't recall the author, but it is an excellent book.  T he basic premise is that you take advantage of natural consequences.  For example, at my house, the definition of dirty clothes is "clothes that are in the clothes hamper or in the laundry room."  This does not mean those near it, under it, on your bed, under your bed or... for whatever reason, in your closet.  So when someone comes to me whining about they don't have a clean shirt to wear to school, I remind them that I only wash dirty clothes.  Then they crawl up under that bed, dig out those nasties, and wash them themselves. My 13 and 15 year olds have pretty much caught on.  My 44 year old (husband) still struggles.
 
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September 13, 2006, 5:17 am PDT

Lets Fix the Kids

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I myself  have had problems in the past with my kids. My son who is now 8 has ADHD, Aspergers, and bipolar. My daughter who in 12 and looks older than she is and acts older. Then there is my youngest who is 4 she had picked up the bad behavior from my son. I went through a lot with my son for 3 years and then I finally found a therapist who helped me to find my way back to the parenting that I used to do before my son started having problems. I'm not saying you need a therapist. What I am saying is that if you want to make your life easier, and a little funnier you need to buy the book Love and Logic. I thought for sure that it wouldn't work on my son, because nothing every worked, but I'm telling you I have lots of fun when it comes to teaching my kids with this book. It tells you how to talk to your kids and get them to listen.

I will give you an example. My son used to push over chairs in my kitchen, stomp his feet, and slam his bedroom door. Then I started to tell him to do these things when I knew he was going to do it anyways. Guess what he said I'm not going to do what you tell me to anymore, and thats exactly the reaction I wanted. He hasn't done this for awhile, and I'm loving the idea that my kid is listening, and I am having fun doing it.

Here is one more example. My son never liked cleaning up after himself. In this book they told me to ask him who will be cleaning up the mess me or you. Then you give him a certain amount of time that he has to have it done. I explained to him that if I cleaned it the toys would be mine, and that I would play with them in my room. Of course after a couple of time of taking his toys he started to clean up his mess without me asking.

 

I have raised 4 kids of my own and am now a house parent at a boys ranch for foster children.  I did alot ot things the wrong way in raising my own, as we all do.  But the "lets Fix the Kids" curriculum that we use here at the ranch is by far the BEST I have ever read and IT WORKS!!!  It is by a guy name Jim Jones (not the cult leader).  It teaches responsibility through natural consequences.  I too have read Kevin Lehman's book and it is really good...this just takes it a step further with examples, daily behavior charts etc. 

 

When a child receives consequences, let's say for not doing homework.  He will receive extra study time at the table and an early bed time.  If he gets mad about it all I say is that I am very sorry too that he made the choices that caused him to receive this consequence.  I tell him that I would have loved him to be able to watch TV with us but that because he chose to not take care of his responsiblity of school, then he loses privileges.  Responsibilty always comes before privilige.  We EARN our privilieges.  The only things that kids have absolute rights to are unconditional love, a a roof over their head and  food to nourish them.  EVERYTHING else is a privilege he earns.  TV, new toys, sweets, going to movies etc. etc. 

 

I have never seen anything work so well to instill a sense of confidence in a child and at the same time building relationships with me.  I don't have to whine, or yell or fell confused all of the time.

 

I hope this helps some of you with younger kids.  The faster you start...the more you will enjoy your children.

 
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September 23, 2006, 6:56 pm PDT

Have I Ruined Them? Or Me?

I have 2 boys each with different dad's.  My oldests dad and I get along great when the time calls for it.  My youngests dad was abusive and hit my oldest and me.  Physically, mentally and emotionally scaring us into submissions for him.

 

Once I was ready to leave I immediatly sought councilling for us.  I knew my older one resented me for all of this and I have tried everything I can possibly come up with to have him act respectful and caring again...nothing seems to be working again.  He did do well after seeing the counciller but she thought he was okay emotionally now.  I think different.

 

He is SOOOOO negative about himself and always talks about how stupid he is, and the fits he throws at almost 11yr is astonishing.  When I give in, due to guilt, it works for a while. 

 

I've lost him...I don't seem to recognize him anymore.  I want him back and don't know where to turn anymore.

 

My 3yr old son sees his brothers behaviours and mimics.  I try to explain that it is wrong, but big brother does it soo.....

 

I made the wrong choices in life a few years back, and thought I was doing all the right things by councilling and extra attention to correct it, but it hasn't worked.  What do I do?  Who do I talk to?

 
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September 26, 2006, 8:38 am PDT

Dr PHILosophy 101

picking up on give each and every idea

15 minutes of your total enthusiam

 

to which we added, to come up with 15 similar ideas (hey, that when the going gets good)

which will show us, you are getting the idea

 

its left us playing music . . ah, aint those dollar store harmonicas the greatest

like start making music where ever so much as a hint of trouble brew, and let the vibes reharmonize. . .

 

like in my lil' corner of having so much fun . . . like the other day, I shared with my grandson, know what the best job in the world is? he bit. . . with a what? Comedian. . . and yes the why, was just as easy to answer. . . 'Because they make people laugh, and laughter is the best medicine in the world with the added BonUS, soon as you learn make music, seems, fighting melts like icebergs on the Grand Banks of kNew Found Land, AS the jewels, yes the Diamonds of the sea . . . as the sleeping beauty of the snow White BUFFaLO Calf . . .cracks ...............off land

this, of course for as long as an ice age is melting into a nice age, as it soon will come be. . . and having decided to share our notes on Dr Phil's MESSage Boards. . .

at least, for a spell, bout the thinKs which have life, come work for us

as it will

for all who find, the dollar store's musical instruments work just fine. . . as hey, will the pots and pans. . . couple sticks, or spoons. . . so time to have fun

so time to stop listen and learn from our children . . in how quick they catch

and why aren't they all walking with their notes books in an ipod kind o thing, instead of slugging all those books on their back. .

what happened to the mother bear in women that they can let their children be so saddled with our not having learned make using, where ever so much as a hint of trouble or seriousness brew. .

I just learn that dwelling on what aint working for me, aint gonna make it work for me

what work for me. . .is close me eye. . . take deep breath and know all the fabrications of our inspiration, had best be let loose, free flying and winging it. . . on playing it by ear. . .

as my daughter once shared, bless her soul,

"why can't they teach us what they figure we need know, with a song?  "

a note we like to follow up with. . . if we cannot not? maybe we ought question what our youth is being taught?

 

know, music is the universal language, with laughter still, our favourite. . . and hey, just got to catch our Lane's Lil' Laughing man on tape. . . it just magic. . . way he dancess. . . and taking us right back to MUMs basic training. . . hand baby a rattle. . . have it rock and roll into sitting up and dance, ere they can walk. .

it when we begin the orderly progression of . . . all flyes out of control

cheery O's to all

 
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October 3, 2006, 5:40 pm PDT

6 or 16 is there something that works?

HELP!!!  My six year old daughter is a royal pain! She has major Attitude! She puffs up quicker then you can blink and starts whining.. she just never stops. You ask her to do something and it is alway "I don't want too" or Why do I have to do it or I don't feel like it!  She plays dumb too!   We have tried Time out no good. She dose not care about sitting quite for  5 minutes. We have taken away her favorite things (which are very few) and she dose not care she gives them to us and will say here I don't want them.  We have withheld all sweets.. nothing.. it is like she dose not care.  Yet her back talk and sass.. and her definance are getting worse. It is like she dose not care that she is 6 and we are 37. She has no fear and thinks she can do what she wants.  We have even at times taken away things she was suppose to go to and she got mad .. but 5 minutes later she was over it and on to something else. So what do you do with a child who dose not care about anything or anyone other then herself....  Oh and graditude do children ever get it.. just asking  she can be so rude at times and we do not know where she get's it! As neither my hubby or myself have ever ever been this way! We have tried to instill graditude for the things you are given  in her from the time she was born .. no such luck..  We have cut way back on trips out trying to show her that by being bad she will not be rewarded dose she care... yeah for about 5 minutes then she is ready to move on.  HELP!  thanks in advance. Drell
 

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October 20, 2006, 10:24 am PDT

Getting kids to CLEAN UP after THEMSELVES

Best song ever... works for my kids every time... It's by Eric Herman and the Invisible Band and it's called "in the box"  I think he might have a sound sample of it on his website http://www.erichermanmusic.com

Wait, here's a sample... http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_20/353000/353859/1/preview/erichermanmb01.mp3
 
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October 30, 2006, 9:22 am PST

Trouble Listening at School Need Help

This is my first time on this message board.  I am in desparate need of some help all suggestions please.  My son is 5, and in preschool.  This is his fifth daycare/preschool since age 2 1/2.  He has a huge problem listening to his teachers and is constantly sitting in time out at school and then staying in time out at home after school.  We have tried everything to get him to behave.   We tried spanking, effective for a while then lost it's effectivness.  We have currently taken all his toys away and he only has books and coloring books for the time being to play with.  This too seems to be losing it's effectiveness.  I get a call from his teacher at least once or twice a week because he refuses to listen.  I am tired of bargaining and trying to use the reward system that doesn't work.  He is now at the point where we are actually taking holidays away, such as halloween right now,  he did not get a pumpkin because he refused to be good at school all week long.  Now he is not going to get to participate in the party at school because he will not listen.  Is this getting too out of hand?  PLEASE HELP anyone. 
 
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November 10, 2006, 8:09 am PST

Disciplining a 16 yr old who I'm afraid of

My 16 year old son has been in trouble with the law, failing some of his classes in 10th grade, and refuses to do what I ask of him if he doesn't feel like it. He'll take out the trash if I ask him to, but he won't go to bed on a school night before midnight (has to pick up the school bus at 6:30 am) if he doesn't feel like it.  I'm very frustrated.

 

If I use consequences, like refusing to let him do something on the weekend that he wants to do, it's a joke, he does it anyway. If I attempt to take his x box away, it gets physical and he wins.

 

If I take his stuff when he's not looking, he gets angry and goes through the house breaking my stuff (cell phone, purse, vases, tv, picture frames, walls).

 

He says mean things to me to attempt to push my buttons and make me go away. I tell him, I'm here to stay, I'm the parent, you're the child. He doesn't respect anyone's authority. I've had police called and talk to him, he listens, talks back, ultimately agrees to behave, then he's back at it again.  He says I'm ruining his life by making him do things and I should just leave him alone. He suggested that I sign an immancipation agreement to allow him to be considered an adult and on his own, but he wants to continue to live in my house - I just won't have to tell him what to do.

 

If he doesn't 'feel like' going to school, he doesn't. I don't write the excused absence for him, tell him he's making poor choices, and he reminds me that he could drop out if he wanted to. He doesn't have a driver's license because the agreement is he has to bring home c's on his report card (sad that I'm aspiring my kid to be 'average' isn't it) - he can't do that.  The grades won't be an issue because the State will not allow him to get a license with xx number of unexcused absences from school. I've written house rules (for the entire family), he doesn't follow them.

 

I would appreciate any help you can provide. I've pretty much run the gamat of family, friends, social workers, community assistance, courts and I can't get anywhere.

 
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November 14, 2006, 12:06 pm PST

We've tried everything!

My 6 year old is having trouble behaving in Kindergarden.  Just to give you a little history, she has always been very bright but has always had a behavioral problem.  She has been the bitter, the hitter, spent most of here playtime in time-out etc.  The only catch is she is well disciplined at home.  When asked to clean her room she does it with out questioning.  She doesn't fight with her brothers, and never talks back to me or my husband.  But once she get's to school she fitghts with friends, talks back to her teacher, and disrupts the class.  She once even accused her teacher of pushing her  (she tripped) and screamed it load in the class.  We have tried sticker charts, grounding, spanking, time-outs, rewards for good behavior.  We are now at the point where we have everything stripped from her room and she has to earn TV time and toys with good behaivor.  I don't like treating my daughter this way.  I have wondered if she is ADD or ADHD.  How do you tell? Anyone have any suggestions?
 

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