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September 3, 2007, 2:41 pm PDT

Marriage Problems b/c of child AND WIFE

Hello Everyone...

My name is Eric and I am 23 and have been married for only 2 months, but have been with my wife for the last 5 years.. I am having a hard time dealing with my step-Daughter and it's killing my marriage.

The problem is what I think is wrong, My wife does not think is wrong and when I try and take action my wife will reply with either yelling at me for it right in front of her daughter or she will tell me what to do, What can I do to solve this problem? I also have a 2yr old son who I am trying to bring up on my rules and have him around good rolemodels. Which his big sister is really not being a good sport about it.. I mean I love my wife dearly but she has me on Anxiety meds and all other sorts of CRAP, B/c she says I need to CHILL out and not yell at her daughter all the time..... Am I wrong for trying to have good rolemodels around my Son?


And this is really putting a burden on our marriage can anyone please help me out, This mainly occurs when her daughter comes home from her fathers house or late at night after we have put her to bed... Like Screaming all the tim she chews with her mouth open which is just GROSS, yells at our son, rips toys right out of his hands, Tells me she will just have her father beat me up and I know that will happen with having a father and a step-dad But I am on my last Straw.. i do not want to leave but I do not know what else to do..


Number 2- My wife who I love very very much will not stop wearing skanky little shirts, I mean like today we were all at a local shopping mall when all ofasudden I saw these 2 men starring at her when I lokked over her Breasts were basically hanging out, and when I say somthing to her she just gets all pissed at me and say I'm not changing the way I dress just b/c you do want men starring at me. I mean DONT LADIES HAVE MORALS ANYMORE? And this is like an everyday thing besides when shes at work, Like if she goes out to local bars on the weekends thats how she will dress and since I do not drink due to having a problem at one pint I will stay home with the kids and she will be gone till well whenever she wants to come home... PLEASE HELP ME 

 
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September 7, 2007, 9:26 am PDT

I know what you mean....

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Hello Everyone...

My name is Eric and I am 23 and have been married for only 2 months, but have been with my wife for the last 5 years.. I am having a hard time dealing with my step-Daughter and it's killing my marriage.

The problem is what I think is wrong, My wife does not think is wrong and when I try and take action my wife will reply with either yelling at me for it right in front of her daughter or she will tell me what to do, What can I do to solve this problem? I also have a 2yr old son who I am trying to bring up on my rules and have him around good rolemodels. Which his big sister is really not being a good sport about it.. I mean I love my wife dearly but she has me on Anxiety meds and all other sorts of CRAP, B/c she says I need to CHILL out and not yell at her daughter all the time..... Am I wrong for trying to have good rolemodels around my Son?


And this is really putting a burden on our marriage can anyone please help me out, This mainly occurs when her daughter comes home from her fathers house or late at night after we have put her to bed... Like Screaming all the tim she chews with her mouth open which is just GROSS, yells at our son, rips toys right out of his hands, Tells me she will just have her father beat me up and I know that will happen with having a father and a step-dad But I am on my last Straw.. i do not want to leave but I do not know what else to do..


Number 2- My wife who I love very very much will not stop wearing skanky little shirts, I mean like today we were all at a local shopping mall when all ofasudden I saw these 2 men starring at her when I lokked over her Breasts were basically hanging out, and when I say somthing to her she just gets all pissed at me and say I'm not changing the way I dress just b/c you do want men starring at me. I mean DONT LADIES HAVE MORALS ANYMORE? And this is like an everyday thing besides when shes at work, Like if she goes out to local bars on the weekends thats how she will dress and since I do not drink due to having a problem at one pint I will stay home with the kids and she will be gone till well whenever she wants to come home... PLEASE HELP ME 

...except that i'm on the other side of the coin.  I'm the so-called wife with the step children.  But  I'm not one to dress that way and stay out all hours of the night.  Let's break this down, shall we?  Before I continue, I want you to know that I'm not defending your wife or her actions in any way.  My fiance and I have the same problems.  I have two daughters from a previous relationship, ages 10 and 8.  My oldest daughter is slightly LD, and that becomes a problem with my fiance.  He's very rude to her and thinks that she should be able to understand everything he's talking about.  That's not the case!  He's even gone so far as to tell her that she will be the reason he and I split up.  Two years ago, we welcomed our son into the world.  My daughters have been very helpful as far as their brother is concerned.  Since the birth, my fiance has treated my daughters very differently.  Have you started treating yout step daughter different since the birth of your son?  To put it bluntly, he doesn't seem to think his son can do any wrong, but my daughters are blamed for everything, including things our son does.  I understand how any parent would want to bring their children up with good role models surrounding them, as well as proper morals.  IF you guys can't sit and talk about this like adults, then there's more than just the discipline problem.  Together, you two should be able to come up with ideas, and set ground rules.  If you can't even do that, then there's no way you'll be able to enforce the rules that you've set.  It's not right for your wife to yell, discredit or belittle you infront of your step daughter.  This is precisely why your step daughter doesn't listen to you.  She sees how her mother treats you.  I think that would be the first thing you guys would need to address before even getting into the discipline issues.  As for her dressing, I seriously hope she doesn't dress like that in front of her children.  What would that be showing her?  I can understand having alone nights where you each hang out with your friends, but is it really necessary to dress 'skanky' (your word) and be out all hours while sticking hubby with the kids?  From your story, there's way more than discipline issues with the kids.  I wish you the best of luck!  Your story reminds me of the same things my fiance says, that's why I thought I could let you know how we changed things....
 
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September 13, 2007, 5:04 pm PDT

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Hello Everyone...

My name is Eric and I am 23 and have been married for only 2 months, but have been with my wife for the last 5 years.. I am having a hard time dealing with my step-Daughter and it's killing my marriage.

The problem is what I think is wrong, My wife does not think is wrong and when I try and take action my wife will reply with either yelling at me for it right in front of her daughter or she will tell me what to do, What can I do to solve this problem? I also have a 2yr old son who I am trying to bring up on my rules and have him around good rolemodels. Which his big sister is really not being a good sport about it.. I mean I love my wife dearly but she has me on Anxiety meds and all other sorts of CRAP, B/c she says I need to CHILL out and not yell at her daughter all the time..... Am I wrong for trying to have good rolemodels around my Son?


And this is really putting a burden on our marriage can anyone please help me out, This mainly occurs when her daughter comes home from her fathers house or late at night after we have put her to bed... Like Screaming all the tim she chews with her mouth open which is just GROSS, yells at our son, rips toys right out of his hands, Tells me she will just have her father beat me up and I know that will happen with having a father and a step-dad But I am on my last Straw.. i do not want to leave but I do not know what else to do..


Number 2- My wife who I love very very much will not stop wearing skanky little shirts, I mean like today we were all at a local shopping mall when all ofasudden I saw these 2 men starring at her when I lokked over her Breasts were basically hanging out, and when I say somthing to her she just gets all pissed at me and say I'm not changing the way I dress just b/c you do want men starring at me. I mean DONT LADIES HAVE MORALS ANYMORE? And this is like an everyday thing besides when shes at work, Like if she goes out to local bars on the weekends thats how she will dress and since I do not drink due to having a problem at one pint I will stay home with the kids and she will be gone till well whenever she wants to come home... PLEASE HELP ME 

Hi,

I think your first responsibility no matter what is your own child.  I have 8 children and have seen counselors because of one of them.  Arguing in front of the child is  awful.  The children are losing respect for you two and they are learning that yelling will solve it, the louder one wins.  You need to sit down together at a park or somewhere away from others and the children, and discuss what you think punishments should be.  If she is no good at punishing then maybe her job could be to reward for good behavior and you do the punishments.  Once you put them in place they need to be followed and the parents needs to stand behind each other completely.  I don't want to talk too long but I do want to address the dress practices of your wife.  I am a wife and there are modest woman out there.  Before you married did she dress this way, if so then you were kind of asking for it.  If your wife is an alcoholic you may not get her out of the bar ever.  If not - are there activities you can do with the children.  Go to the lake for a weekend,  Pack up the bikes and hit a bike trail.  You need to get her to be family orientated.  She is being awful selfish going off alone, not to mention very disrespectful.  I would be PO'd if I were in that situation.  You have got to make her see how hurt you are.  If nothing works and your marriage fails I would keep a written record of her escapades and leaving the family alone, you will need that.  Also record activities you have done with the family and what your wife says and how she reacts.  She is not "in the best interest of your family".  You need to see a counselor.

Hope this helps some, good luck!

 
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September 14, 2007, 10:28 am PDT

My daughter is the other half of my team

I have been married for 25 years and have three kids.I mostly parent alone.Except for the help I get from my daughter.My husband has hardly ever been of help.We went to counceling for our son who has pdd.My husband made it seem as if I controled everything in the house and was the problem.The councelor told us we have to be a team and make parenting descsions to together,now that would work if he would actually help out and not stand and yell at me cause the kids our bothering him.John treid for two days to help then one night looked at me and said I have to reduce my stress and I am blind in this eye I am the one paying the blills so you needs to deal with the kids on your own.So i have with the help of my daughter who on her own stepped up to the empy plate.We have gotten david going to bed on time to get to school and taking regular showers and to school on time along with his younger brother.Last night I was just to frustrated with him I was acting cold towards him.When he asked me why I figured why tell him he will just not get it and pout.Thats what happpened.I told him why I was upset and his responce was Just tell me what to do and I will do it.I responded be a parent quite falling asleep after you come home from work and sleeping tell the mornig with when you are awke quite yelling at me and the kids and telling us to leave you along  and quite bugging you.help me out.Ju;lie has been the other parent for years and when she has been able to help me I do it alone with help from you only when you want to the rest of the time I drag you kicking and screaming to hel[pme out.He took a well I'll just go eat warms aditude.He said well I guess you want me tto lose my job I won't sleep any more unless you give me permision.Then he got up and said to our son you need to go to bed right now so mom will get off my ass.This is your fault mom is yelling at me.Our son was allready on his way to the shower and bed the other one was in bed I and my daughter had gotten them there.Now he has I pouting aditude.It is eather I do it alone or with the help of my daughter because when he helps it is out of meaness and he just make s the situation worse or doesn't help at all.John is good at talking and does help with our sons Iep and a very good writer.he not a bad person.I need to know if my daughter being the other parent is good for her I have never made her do it she has just done it I apriciate her help and tell her often.But has then been a good thing for her.I often appoligize to her and her brothers for there fathers behavor.
 
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September 14, 2007, 5:53 pm PDT

We Disagree On Punishment

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I have been married for 25 years and have three kids.I mostly parent alone.Except for the help I get from my daughter.My husband has hardly ever been of help.We went to counceling for our son who has pdd.My husband made it seem as if I controled everything in the house and was the problem.The councelor told us we have to be a team and make parenting descsions to together,now that would work if he would actually help out and not stand and yell at me cause the kids our bothering him.John treid for two days to help then one night looked at me and said I have to reduce my stress and I am blind in this eye I am the one paying the blills so you needs to deal with the kids on your own.So i have with the help of my daughter who on her own stepped up to the empy plate.We have gotten david going to bed on time to get to school and taking regular showers and to school on time along with his younger brother.Last night I was just to frustrated with him I was acting cold towards him.When he asked me why I figured why tell him he will just not get it and pout.Thats what happpened.I told him why I was upset and his responce was Just tell me what to do and I will do it.I responded be a parent quite falling asleep after you come home from work and sleeping tell the mornig with when you are awke quite yelling at me and the kids and telling us to leave you along  and quite bugging you.help me out.Ju;lie has been the other parent for years and when she has been able to help me I do it alone with help from you only when you want to the rest of the time I drag you kicking and screaming to hel[pme out.He took a well I'll just go eat warms aditude.He said well I guess you want me tto lose my job I won't sleep any more unless you give me permision.Then he got up and said to our son you need to go to bed right now so mom will get off my ass.This is your fault mom is yelling at me.Our son was allready on his way to the shower and bed the other one was in bed I and my daughter had gotten them there.Now he has I pouting aditude.It is eather I do it alone or with the help of my daughter because when he helps it is out of meaness and he just make s the situation worse or doesn't help at all.John is good at talking and does help with our sons Iep and a very good writer.he not a bad person.I need to know if my daughter being the other parent is good for her I have never made her do it she has just done it I apriciate her help and tell her often.But has then been a good thing for her.I often appoligize to her and her brothers for there fathers behavor.
How old is your daughter?
 
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September 19, 2007, 1:37 pm PDT

We Disagree On Punishment

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How old is your daughter?
My daughter is know 18 but he had her taking care of her brothers when I went to work.She was the only three year old and  knew how too change a diaper and make formula.and give baths to her brothers and clean a house. I quite work when I found out what was going on that was when she was in the fourth grade.I have not worked since.I have not worked since.But know that she has graduated and is at home more and not stressed from homworke.She is helping me out agian.Disaplining with me helping me get there homework done and basicly my suport system.When she says something they listen to her and me.They call there father lazy and don't care what he thinks or asks them to do.He of caurse blames me.But then tells me and my daughter what they are doing wrong and leaves it up to us to take care of.While he sleeps or wathches tv or is on the computer.He says he can't handle the stress and tries to help out when he can.I know it is when he  is mad or when he feels like it.She says that she does not think much of her father but knows how to get things out of him when she needs them.He does do things with them but not very often and usully throws it in my face that he does do things with thim and that he does help me but not very often .and blames me for the kids not respecting him as a father.So her is my question is this good for her or not .AQt this point in her life she says she does not want to get married or have any kids cause she feels as is she has raised kids all ready.She does not want a man if they are like her father.
 
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September 20, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

picky eaters

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I have an on going serious dispute with my spouse which is causeing us personal problems.

My children have been trained by my spouse to only eat Nuggets, PB&J, Frozen Pizza, and Raviolis.

When we make other things they refuse to eat and our dinner becomes a big fight. My spouse has just conceded and fixes them what they want. I am of the belief you control what they eat, when they go to bed, who they see, ect. I feel that the children are out of control. and we have lost. I always have to look like the big bad dad, forceing them to eat other things.

 

My spouse is a wimp.

Today kids are worse then ever. junk is addiction to there pallet.  It use to be that fast food was a rare reward. Today its a scape goat  for the parent. There are some things going on today for parent awareness of, fun food that's nourishes. We are a , make It easy, make It fast, spoiled, run out the door ,family these days. And it doesn't help the most me like meat,&potatoes, and little vegges. So there for , sets bad example.  I say part wimp. Part unconfrontational. Butt a parent needs to be confrontational. And set an example.   I have the same losing battle.  We grow a garden, and they pick it ,but wont eat it.

I think we need to open our eyes to what we are doing to our kids, latter in life (health wise), by what we are doing right now.

 
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September 28, 2007, 12:06 pm PDT

Punishment

My son was 2 when my husband and I got married. He is not his real father. My son was the first grandchild in the family so you can guess that he got spoiled a lot. So when my husband wanted to punish my son I would contradict everything. Soon it became a problem between my husband and I. We had to learn to come to a middle ground on punishment. His is much stronger than mine because he comes from a home where his dad was in the service. I came from a home where my mom punished me borderline to abuse. I promised myself I will never raise my kids or do to my kids what I had to go through. Yes sometimes I am scared to punish my kids, but punishing your kids builds character and makes them a better person. My brother-in-law told us he used a wooden spoon to punish his kids. So now I use a spoon. All I have to do is pop my kids one time to keep them in line and sometimes I have to just pull it out to show them that they need to straighten up. So now my husband and I are consistent with how we want our kids to behave, and we know what to use when they get out of line. Sometimes spanking works and sometimes time out works. Some people don't believe in spanking. Now days kids are so out of control because the parents are more scared of what the child will think of them or what other people think of them for spanking their child. I refuse to go out in public and my kids make a fool out of me. I will not have my kids throw fits and hit me and scream at me and curse me out. My kids will respect me and everyone else they come in contact with. My kids will learn how to earn the things they want by being good.
 
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November 14, 2007, 8:19 am PST

I know what you are going through

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...except that i'm on the other side of the coin.  I'm the so-called wife with the step children.  But  I'm not one to dress that way and stay out all hours of the night.  Let's break this down, shall we?  Before I continue, I want you to know that I'm not defending your wife or her actions in any way.  My fiance and I have the same problems.  I have two daughters from a previous relationship, ages 10 and 8.  My oldest daughter is slightly LD, and that becomes a problem with my fiance.  He's very rude to her and thinks that she should be able to understand everything he's talking about.  That's not the case!  He's even gone so far as to tell her that she will be the reason he and I split up.  Two years ago, we welcomed our son into the world.  My daughters have been very helpful as far as their brother is concerned.  Since the birth, my fiance has treated my daughters very differently.  Have you started treating yout step daughter different since the birth of your son?  To put it bluntly, he doesn't seem to think his son can do any wrong, but my daughters are blamed for everything, including things our son does.  I understand how any parent would want to bring their children up with good role models surrounding them, as well as proper morals.  IF you guys can't sit and talk about this like adults, then there's more than just the discipline problem.  Together, you two should be able to come up with ideas, and set ground rules.  If you can't even do that, then there's no way you'll be able to enforce the rules that you've set.  It's not right for your wife to yell, discredit or belittle you infront of your step daughter.  This is precisely why your step daughter doesn't listen to you.  She sees how her mother treats you.  I think that would be the first thing you guys would need to address before even getting into the discipline issues.  As for her dressing, I seriously hope she doesn't dress like that in front of her children.  What would that be showing her?  I can understand having alone nights where you each hang out with your friends, but is it really necessary to dress 'skanky' (your word) and be out all hours while sticking hubby with the kids?  From your story, there's way more than discipline issues with the kids.  I wish you the best of luck!  Your story reminds me of the same things my fiance says, that's why I thought I could let you know how we changed things....
I have four step-daughters and none of my own.  They are rarely with their mother and their father works 12 hour days.  So I mainly have them 24-7!  I have the worst problem with the oldest who has fought me, cussed me, destroyed my clothes, and stole things that belong to me.  I am in a constant battle with her father because he don't know what the word discipline means!!!  He thinks that grounding her from the phone for a week will do the trick, but obviously that doesn't work it has been going on for 5 years now.  I wish that just once I was the one that had the last word, the final say so on the punishment, since it is happening to me.  I'm going through HELL I'm just lost anymore!!!  HELP
 
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November 23, 2007, 9:09 am PST

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I have four children ages 10,11,15 and16 yrs of age. My husband of 13 yrs. is the father of two of the children. He has raised the older two from the ages of 2&3. (Their father hasn't been in the picture until 3 wks. ago) When the children misbehave and my husband is not home I will punish them by grounding them or take away T.V. or phone priviledges. When my husband returns or he finds out  what the child has done he also yells and punishes them for it...depending on what mood he is in sometimes takes the punishment away. When he is home and he takes care of the punishment  it always involves yelling loudly,throwing things and, in my opinion, degrating them. They have gotten to the point where they will not answer his questions when he asks them and this makes him very angry. Mainly because they don't know how to answer it or they are scared to.Often he plays a stand up sit down game with them. Lately, the 15 yr. old has refused to play it.  Our ten year old starting from the age 5 has been dirtying his pants. We have had him to the doctor and he told us that he has "bridge bowels". Meaning he is scared to go to the bathroom and holds it in until his body makes him go. All  4 are making 3 to 4 f's in school.  The older 2 are skipping school, being late for classes, and have lost interest in almost everything. Lately all they want to do is sleep. When my husband is home they try to hide in their rooms, but he calls them in the living room often and asks them what they are doing or to get him something. It is to the point that when they hear he is on his way home the oldest daughter breaks out with bad acne and my oldest breaks out with a rash. All four of the children do not want him to come home because, in their words, " He is mean". These are just some of the minor things that go on. I have discussed the problems with my husband and he said that he would TRY. I told him that trying wasn't good enough. I have decided that something has to be done and I have been looking for a house for the children and I to move. I am scared, but I am more scared of  what will happen if I don't leave. He has never abused me physically like my first husband, but the mental abuse is just as bad if not worse , in my opinion.  Does anyone have any advise that may help me get through this? I just feel like I am going into a depression and I can't seem to find the strength to pull myself together. 

 

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