Topic : 07/27 Fighting Styles

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Created on : Thursday, April 27, 2006, 07:07:11 pm
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(Original Air Date: 05/01/06) Dr. Phil’s guests say they fight so much that fighting has become the only way they know how to communicate. But is there a right and wrong way to fight? Kim admits that she’s a screamer who often uses profanity in front of their kids. Her husband, Mike, says he’s a cerebral fighter who retaliates by calling her “mental” and “psycho.” Kim has reached such a boiling point that when she goes at it with her spouse, she throws the phone and smashes up picture frames! Can this couple learn to put down the gloves and call a truce? Then, Belinda’s screaming and hitting caused her husband, Gerald, to move across the country just to get away from her. Cameras caught the chaos when Gerald returned home in an effort to sort out their issues. Will reconciling with Belinda be the biggest mistake of his life? If you’re a feuding couple, don’t miss Dr. Phil’s Rules for Fighting Fair and talk about the show here.

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May 1, 2006, 2:55 pm PDT

Sad couples- Wrong title for show

First let me say I do not recall the couples' names, so I will have to use identifiable features; I mean NO disrespect.... 

  

The hispanic woman is so hostile and her black husband does not get it. They are young and they are clueless. Their union CAN and SHOULD wait until the woman gets the therapy she needs. She is one angry person who has nothing positive to give until she figures her own self out first. God be with both of them, but ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR INNOCENT CHILDREN. 

  

The caucasian couple (1st on the show) have a chance. I think they both GOT it after listening to Dr. Phil. The tears in the father's eyes show that he WANTS better for his children. Eventually, his wife took his hand, which gives me hope that they are mature and kind enough to get help for the sake of their children. I have been married for 16+ years and we have fought "fair" for over a decade. But last year we attended a "Marriage Encounter Weekend" thru our Catholic church; even though we have a very good marriage, the extra help is always a blessing. Marriage is NOT easy, but it is worth doing whatever it takes to make it work. I wouldn't trade my hubby for the world!!! 

  

This show was SO MUCH MORE than simply about "fighting styles." It was about unhappy, unfulfilled, angry individuals who had little or nothing to offer the union of marriage. ALL need a great deal of help and hopefully ALL will get it. If they don't get it for them, they MUST be compassionate enough to get the help for the sake of their innocent children. I wish them all well. 

 
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May 1, 2006, 2:59 pm PDT

GET OUT

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 The picture in my profile is 8 days old, I hit my husband with a swing of about six inches because thats how close he was to me when I hit him. He would not stop yelling at the top of his voice his face in my face. In return he hit me as hard as he could on my arm. He says I deserve it, I am ill with Systemic Lupus Arythmatosis and have no  strength to hurt him. The words are what is destroying me. Jackie

Get out, if not for you than for your children. They deserve better and YOU are responsible for making sure they are safe and emotionally healthy.  

  

You BOTH need help. There is never an excuse to hit a spouse. I don't care how much or how loudly he yelled; abuse is abuse, regardless of who does it. And, of course, he should not have returned the abuse by striking you. What he should have done is left the home and called the police. BOTH of you were wrong and BOTH of you need help. 

  

Walk, run, fly, drive...just get out of your home. You deserve better in your life and so does he. If there are kids in the home, you owe it to them to get them away from BOTH of you. Take them to a trusted family member or friend. Do whatever it takes and do it now!!! 

  

God be with you. Hopefully you are tired of living this way and truly want to change. Only then will it happen. I will keep you and your family in my prayers.  

 
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May 1, 2006, 3:05 pm PDT

No sales pitches

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Hi,  

I am always shocked that Dr Phil doesn't want to just read a book to increase his brain power ...........Like you tell everyone else Phil... JUST DO IT  Just learn that not all Attention Deficit is
Hyperactive  

   

Phil   READ DR AMENS Book  HEALING ADDHD!!!  For God sakes the world really needs you to grasp this  ASTONISHING information that can help so many people.  

   

Example here...   The first couple who fight all of the time...  

   

CLEARLY the husband is undiagnosed     ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER   with Overfocused and possible LIMBIC ISSUES  

   

His lack of Empathy is A SYMPTOM  

His inappropriate talk with his mom and his sister is A SYMPTOM  

His TOTAL inability to see his self as he really is .... Again a SYMPTOM!  

Needs to create RAGE   again a symptom...  

   

Much of the rage is the the diagnose is ONLY because the brain is not firing from one side to the next and rage makes a person with Attention Deficit  ( NOT WITH THE HYPERACTIVE COMPONENT) person's brain fire... Literallyb it makes US FEEL THAT WE ARE THINKING.  

   

Folks with Overfocused ADD  Limbic issues DON't remember lessons learned and OFTEN REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN AND AGAIN and are so sorry each time.     

   

Often they are so sincerly sorry that even the most mentally healthy person will stay when then otherwise wouldn't.   

   

The wife could be reacting to years of disapointinment which can begin to look like Borderline tendancies... The out of control throwiing and cusing...  

   

There are natural helps for this...  and prescriptions for this...  

   

This is exactly the way  my relationship was until we got help  then it magically stoped.  

   

We started Adderall 5 mg one time a day and have not had a RAGE fight in nearly 9 months..    

   

Please if you the couple read this or Dr Phil reads this...  

   

Know that  Attention Deficit is not  just the one where folks are hyperactive... that is the easy one to spot...  

   

Those of us who are overfocused...  who have limic issues and temporal lobe issues.. Need a little  

help from the GREAT information of healing that Dr Amen is bringing to the forfront.  

   

Here are a couple excerpts about the 6 different kind of Attention Defict Disorders there are...  

   

OVERFOCUSED ADD: It is difficult to parent or live with someone with this type of Attention Deficit Disorder. The overfocused person can be oppositional, arguementive and inflexible. They can be obsessive, compulsive and worry excessively. They have a tendency to get stuck into ruts of negativity. What’s worse is that this type is often incredibly persistent and will not give up until he gets his way.

Overfocused characteristics:
_ Worries excessively, even over unimportant matters.
_ Oppositional..
_ Arguementive.
_ Compulsive.
_ Has difficulty shifting from one activity to another.
_ Always wants his way.
_ Is rigid and uncompromising.  

   


TEMPORAL LOBE: The "Temporal Lobe" type has ADHD coupled with anxiety. This is another difficult type of ADD to parent or live with. This type is inattentive, irritability, aggressive and severely impulsive. They have dark thoughts and wild mood swings. They are defiant, disobedient and break rules for the simple sake of breaking rules. If aggression and anger outbursts are present, you likely fall into this category of Attention Deficit.

"Temporal Lobe" Characteristics:
_ Easily irritated or frustrated.
_ Aggressive.
_ Dark moods.
_ Significant mood swings.
_ Impulsivity.
_ Prone to fights and acts of violence.
_ Defiant toward authority figures.
_ Can display anti-social behavior.
_ Learning problems and bad handwriting common with this type.


LIMBIC: In addition to having the symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder, this type also has depression symptoms like low energy, feelings of hopelessness and worthlessness and negativity. This type may appear apathetic and not much excites this type.

"Limbic" Characteristics:
_ Inattentive.
_ Chronic sadness.
_ Often negative or apathetic.
_ Low energy levels.
_ Feelings of helplessness, hopelessness or low self-worth.

"RING OF FIRE": The "Ring of Fire" type of Attention Deficit Disorder is a melting pot of the other five types. This type is inattentive, hyperactive and talks constantly but also is, angry, irritable and prone to mood swings. This type can be extremely oppositional, obsessive and overly sensitive.

He may be talking all of the time, and is probably touching everything in the room. And, this child is nervous or worried, or anxious. He has trouble shifting attention from one activity to another, and he frequently "gets stuck" in loops of negative thoughts. He can be obsessive, and very inflexible.
"Ring of Fire" Characteristics:
_ Oppositional behavior.
_ Irritability.
_ Excessive talking.
_ Temper problems.
_ Extreme moodiness.
_ Distractibility.
_ People with this type tend to be sensitive to sounds.  

   

   

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Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) is a national health crisis that continues to grow—yet it remains one of the most misunderstood and incorrectly treated illnesses today.   

  

Now, using breakthrough diagnostic techniques, Dr. Daniel Amen has discovered that there are six distinct types of ADD, each requiring a different treatment.  


Dr. Phil........ COME ON!  About time you realize that there is alot more going on with peoples behavior than just choosing to have bad behavior..  

  

There is more than just telling them to stop it...  

  

I tried to stop raging and couldn't and I am so dedicated to be enlightened...  

  

My BRAIN WAS MAKING ME RAGE and my Partner RAGE..  

  

Now we are able to work on our marriage   

  

Please do the homework and READ  Dr AMENS WORK and bring it to the world.. WE NEED YOU TO  

  

  

Anita Lynn  

  

AnitaAndDavis@aol.com  

   

How sad that you felt the need to "sell" a book here.  

  

As a teacher in the 90's, EVERYONE with problems was diagnosed with ADD or ADHD. And it still continues today. For you to diagonose the male guest from his 15 minutes of T.V. fame is RIDICULOUS.   Dr Phil has plenty of experts (medical and otherwise) on staff and there to assist him with his guests. I'm sure he's checked out his guests long before they've even appeared on his show. Give the good doctor more credit!!! 

  

I, too, must have ADD because I'm frustrated with your post, I can't seem to concentrate on anything else, I'm moody and anxious, I am distracted, I have a bad temper and...drum roll, please...I OBVIOUSLY have "Oppositional Behavior" when it comes to your post:)  By t he  way, I didn't notice an abbreviations after your name...you know, the ones that identify you as a doctor! 

 
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May 1, 2006, 3:09 pm PDT

My thoughts on the 1st Couple

I am mad that the first couple didnt get it, or atleast SHE didnt. That is, unless she hides her emotions quite well. They both are at fault, but ATLEAST he got it. She was a cold stone...   I feel so sorry for those children. That was me growing up and trust me, it is sad.
 
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May 1, 2006, 3:13 pm PDT

Belinda needs to find herself again...

Belinda needs to find herself again.  I don't mean this rude but I was in the exact same situation.  I didn't want it to end, I thought it was "him" who needed the help.  But really it was me who lost myself in all the fighting and stress. I too had to deal with "him" on the phone with other woman, and I followed my gut feeling and was right.  He wasn't being true!!  I did get anger management and NOT for him but for myself.  It destroyed me to feel all the hurt and deceit in the relationship because I too had the hopes of a happy family.  Once I went to anger management I learned to love myself, and developed a lot more respect for myself, which has helped me from hitting anyone at all.  I looked like a phsyco (hitting him) to others but they now see it was the heart acting out not the brain!    

   

I'm still not with him and I would not go back to him, with all the love and respect I've developed by fighting back by working towards a successful life.  I am now a successful, single, young mother with a job in accounting.  I find more happiness just knowing that I can provide a good life for my daughter, than being miserable trying to "get along" for the kids.    

   

Belinda the best thing for you is to leave him and do it yourself, your pretty young and strong,  True love doesn't make you cry or mad.  Take it as a stepping stone and work on yourself so the next man who will respect you completely (vice versa tho), will last the lifetime your looking for.    

 
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May 1, 2006, 3:21 pm PDT

Deja vu

 I can fully relate to the second couple, sadly I missed the first.  But they too sound like me.  I have always been on guard in relationships and feel that I need to be aggressive to get my point across.  I guess I related to Belinda.  In the midst of the "drama", it is all about saying the most to inflict pain because at this point in the "drama" it is about making the person feel as bad as you feel inside.  And it is the point of losing control of the situation that you are most trying to hold onto.  You try to be the controller, but you are the most out of control. 

THAT IS ME......and in the midst of the "drama" you know that it's wrong and hurtful, but at the time you are powerless.  This is not to excuse the other person's actions.  It is worse if they don't fight back.  It is worse if they ignore you and deny your feelings.  And with my kids father it is often one of us provoking the other.  My daughter's sadly are used to our way of "communicating." 

We have played this tug of war for over 10 years on and off.  I left him and tried to start my life and wanted a calmer more peaceful relationship.  But, surprise.....I take the same baggage with me to the next. 

I wish I had been on the Dr. Phil show, because I would love some knowledge and help as to why I respond the way I do. I know that it is caused by my parents way of communicating and their divorce when I was 15.

I have begun to pray, walk away, and stop and count when provoked or drawn into the drama.  But I know how Belinda feels.  I also know that being cheated on is very hurtful and very hard to get over.  I think having that happen caused many more woulnds that I truly know.

All we can do is be reponsible for our own actions.  We can't control others and how they react or don't.  And how we allow others to treat us however disrespectfully.  Old patterns are difficult to change......But as for me, I will do my best.  Watching this show is like watching myself.  If for no one else, I will for my daughters.....
 
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May 1, 2006, 3:24 pm PDT

How very sad

I am a very lucky woman I have a wonderful husband and we very rarely fight. I am sitting here in tears as I watch the show and the little one having to watch his parents act like high school children. What kind of example is that ? I am a mother as well I know I am not a perfect parent by any means but I would never behave like that in front of my children!!!
 
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May 1, 2006, 3:44 pm PDT

ONE MORE THING! GO HAVE SOME DATES!!

To the first couple, One More Thing.  Go have regular Dates with EACH OTHER- of course.  It may help you become friends and see the spark again.  Without the children! At least mostly!  Dress up for the occasions.  Hey, Bald can be sexy!  It's the fire in the furnace that counts, and how he treats you.   

 
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May 1, 2006, 3:53 pm PDT

showing appreciation

Okay I only caught a bit of the first couple but the part I caught was for the husband to show appreciation to the wife and for the wife to validate the husband.........my question is how?!?  I thought I was validating my husband by cooking, cleaning and looking after the house and household business.........sadly I am mistaken.can anyone help and give me ideas..
 

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May 1, 2006, 3:53 pm PDT

Kim

Mike is verbally & emotionally abusing you, & playing passive aggressive mindgames.  How dare he mislead his relatives into thinking you're a bad mother!  He intentionally does & says what you don't like because he ENJOYS PUSHING YOUR BUTTONS.  And, to quote Dr. Phil from other shows, "you pay off like a slot machine!"    

   

For the sake of your CHILD & your sanity, STOP reacting to him pushing your buttons.  Stop yelling & throwing things, especially in front of your child!  Stop calling him names!  Take the high road.  And put yourself in the mindset of who cares what he thinks of you!  He's your ABUSER & he also has a gambling/financial problem.  He likes to put YOU down to deflect from his serious problems.  

   

You obviously love him, but IMO you'd be better off without him!  Verbal & emotional abuse is a serious problem where he needs at least a year of counseling with a counseler especially trained in these issues.   

   

P.S.  I think Dr. Phil's telling you, a sufferer of abuse to "grow up!" was very insensitive.  Although if Dr. Phil means "grow up" in the sense of don't argue in front of your child, I totally agree with that.  

 

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