Topic : 07/27 Fighting Styles

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Created on : Thursday, April 27, 2006, 07:07:11 pm
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(Original Air Date: 05/01/06) Dr. Phil’s guests say they fight so much that fighting has become the only way they know how to communicate. But is there a right and wrong way to fight? Kim admits that she’s a screamer who often uses profanity in front of their kids. Her husband, Mike, says he’s a cerebral fighter who retaliates by calling her “mental” and “psycho.” Kim has reached such a boiling point that when she goes at it with her spouse, she throws the phone and smashes up picture frames! Can this couple learn to put down the gloves and call a truce? Then, Belinda’s screaming and hitting caused her husband, Gerald, to move across the country just to get away from her. Cameras caught the chaos when Gerald returned home in an effort to sort out their issues. Will reconciling with Belinda be the biggest mistake of his life? If you’re a feuding couple, don’t miss Dr. Phil’s Rules for Fighting Fair and talk about the show here.

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May 1, 2006, 4:01 pm PDT

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Belinda is too psychologically & emotionally damaged to be in a relationship with ANYONE until she gets counseling & works thru the demons of her past.  You did the right thing to move across the country!  And you were wrong if you cheated on her!  But you still seem to have one foot in & one foot out of the relationship.  I would take BOTH feet out of the relationship & only consider getting back together if Belinda has had a year or so of intense counseling.
 
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May 1, 2006, 4:08 pm PDT

Need advice,

question to all,  

I'm pregnant and My husband really doesn't know how to  talk to a pregnant women i'm 5 months through and i'm scared to even talk to him because his answer is to lay down and ignore the whole situation. I'm even scared to fight with him and i know holding in feelings isn't good.  

But i don't want my baby who can hear now in my stomach to hear us fighting. is he doing the right thing by just laying on the bed and going to sleep or am i doing the right thing by trying to talk it out yet i cry when it turns into a fight we don't slap but he sure uses a bit of verbal insults he shouldn't use when the baby can hear inside. How do i communicate and if we do fight should i be worried about the baby hearing or does it not understand words just tones.  

Being sensitive because of pregnancy can start alot of fights any tips?  

 
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May 1, 2006, 4:11 pm PDT

I was the child they fought in front of

I am 32 and my dad was Kim.  My dad was even Mike because of his high expectations. 

  

Kim & Mike - please let my story been your wake-up call 

  

My siblings and I were in the middle of all fights between my parents.  I still do find myself trying to stop my dad from screaming at my mom.  If I had to tell you what one thing I remember most about my childhood it would have to be my dad yelling.  It's not the family trips, the summer swims, school, friends, snowball forts, or games.  It's the yelling.  I don't know what he yelled about most days.  I don't think he does either.  I also remember my dad calling my mom names like stupid, lazy and dumb and bit%$.   

  

In my teens I began disrespecting my mom in the same way I saw my dad do my whole life.  I began yelling and calling her names.  I feel sad now looking back how hurtful that can be but I did it without thinking how it might affect her because I thought it was OK since my dad did it. 

  

As I moved away to collge and had one of many serious relationships I continued to yell.  I became my dad.  My nightmare.   

  

When I moved back after college and even on college breaks, I had been away from the yelling so long it took a while for me to get used to it.  To not cry when I heard it.  I still feel like that 8 year old kid when ever I hear my dad yell.  I feel small, hurt, helpless and scared and I am 32!!! 

  

Kim -please don't let my unplesant memories be what your kids remember.  Please stop the cycle now.  Because of my history I have turned toward finding a husband that was the complete opposite of my dad.  My husband doesn't yell and would die before calling me a name. 

  

Luckily for me, I saw the light while in a relationship in college.  I don't know what he said or did to change my view but I realized the yelling was really....dumb...and not worth the effort.  I now "argue" in a very respectible manner.  More like a discussion really.  In fact I really don't think my husband and I fight but rather discuss opinions.  Since we are both head strong we have to agree to disagree many times. 

  

I can't begin to express the hurt I have because of all the yelling when I was growing up.  I can't begin to express the damage it has done to my mother's self esteem but she married him not me.   

  

It got so bad when I was 8 or 9 that my older sister and I were so sick of the yelling that WE wanted our parents to get a divorce.  We even made up a test for our parents to take to tell them if they should divorce or not (no joke).  If that wasn't an outcry from us as children I don't know what was, but it didn't stop.  It hasn't stopped. 

  

Please don't do it.  When I saw your tape I felt like the child again...watching my dad yell at my mom.  It will never go away.  The fear, the hurt, the sadness but mostly the anger I have towards my dad as a grown adult for doing it to us and my mom for not stopping him. 

 

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May 1, 2006, 4:13 pm PDT

05/01 Fighting Styles

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Mike is verbally & emotionally abusing you, & playing passive aggressive mindgames.  How dare he mislead his relatives into thinking you're a bad mother!  He intentionally does & says what you don't like because he ENJOYS PUSHING YOUR BUTTONS.  And, to quote Dr. Phil from other shows, "you pay off like a slot machine!"    

   

For the sake of your CHILD & your sanity, STOP reacting to him pushing your buttons.  Stop yelling & throwing things, especially in front of your child!  Stop calling him names!  Take the high road.  And put yourself in the mindset of who cares what he thinks of you!  He's your ABUSER & he also has a gambling/financial problem.  He likes to put YOU down to deflect from his serious problems.  

   

You obviously love him, but IMO you'd be better off without him!  Verbal & emotional abuse is a serious problem where he needs at least a year of counseling with a counseler especially trained in these issues.   

   

P.S.  I think Dr. Phil's telling you, a sufferer of abuse to "grow up!" was very insensitive.  Although if Dr. Phil means "grow up" in the sense of don't argue in front of your child, I totally agree with that.  

I agree. Mike just laid back and picked at her so he could call her nuts.  What a pathetic man.  And did you see him talking to his son-"Your mother doesn't care that you've been sitting with that load in your pants for half an hour."  like he is incapable of changing a diaper?!  Why even have children if you don't want to look after them??  

  

I agree with you that Dr. Phil missed the mark on this couple. Mike needed to hear that HE had a problem and he didn't. He wasn't told to stop gambling. He wasn't told to help out some with the kids. She was just told to "grow up"...well sheesh, how's that going to play out when they get home?  How often is Mike going to bait her with "grow up"? 

 
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May 1, 2006, 4:19 pm PDT

This Was Like Looking In The Mirror

I have not really watched the Dr.Phil show since my husband and I were on it in Sept 02. The second day it aired. I was so madd at Dr.Phil for making me cry on national tv. Anyway for some strange reason after all these years I watched todays show. I sat and cried. It was like watching my husband and I. It hurt me so badly for the child. I wrote some of Dr.Phils advice down on paper and believe it or not I got out the Relationship Rescue book that was given to us and I started to re-read it again. This book truely did save our marriage. I guess with time we forgot what we were supposto be doing to make our relationship and family work. I THANK GOD as I am sitting here actually for todays show. I really needed it as a wake up call. I immediatly called my husband and told him how proud of him I was and that I LOVED him for who he was. When our twins came home I hugged and kissed them and told them how proud I was of them. Thank You again Dr.Phil for puttting me back on track.We May Not Have It All Together, But Together We Have It All...................
 
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May 1, 2006, 4:25 pm PDT

05/01 Fighting Styles

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Okay I only caught a bit of the first couple but the part I caught was for the husband to show appreciation to the wife and for the wife to validate the husband.........my question is how?!?  I thought I was validating my husband by cooking, cleaning and looking after the house and household business.........sadly I am mistaken.can anyone help and give me ideas..
The "house hold business" are the things that need to be done.  It's more responsibility than showing appreciation for your husband, though I'm more motivated to do all the house hold chores when I know they are appreciated.  It would be the same as your husband feeling his going to work every day shows you he appreciates you.  There is more to it than that.  Things like leaving little love notes where he will find them.  A random phone call just to tell him you love him.  Things like that.  Asking about each others day and listening with out distractions. That can be a task all in itself with small children.  Hope this is helpful.
 
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May 1, 2006, 4:34 pm PDT

fighting styles

the first couple on the show, is almost exactly my life.  it is alsomt scary, my mother died 9 years ago from a brain tumor and i am also a stay at home mom, but i have twin boys that are 2 years old.  my husband also disrespects for being a stay at home mom, puts down every thing i do. i can tell you the last time he has payed me a compliment.  he would rather cut me down or say some thing mean.  no matter what i say or do it is not right.   

i am also a "screamer" but i also cry alot.  we fight alot, my oldest  son is 7 and we have fought so much in front of him and he has seen how him dad disrespects me and calls me names he is also starting to disrespecting me and my husband praises him for the way he treats me.   

my husband will not even watch the twins long enough for me to even run to the store, the only way he will watch them is if they are asleep, but yet he can come and go as he pleases.  we have only went 3 times some where as a whole family, he gets embarassed because he says it is like the brady bunch going some where, so he just takes the oldest and leaves the twins with me. 

  

please help,   

 
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May 1, 2006, 4:34 pm PDT

TELL HIM

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question to all,  

I'm pregnant and My husband really doesn't know how to  talk to a pregnant women i'm 5 months through and i'm scared to even talk to him because his answer is to lay down and ignore the whole situation. I'm even scared to fight with him and i know holding in feelings isn't good.  

But i don't want my baby who can hear now in my stomach to hear us fighting. is he doing the right thing by just laying on the bed and going to sleep or am i doing the right thing by trying to talk it out yet i cry when it turns into a fight we don't slap but he sure uses a bit of verbal insults he shouldn't use when the baby can hear inside. How do i communicate and if we do fight should i be worried about the baby hearing or does it not understand words just tones.  

Being sensitive because of pregnancy can start alot of fights any tips?  

I WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR SITUATION WHEN I WAS PREGNANT WITH MY SON....MY HUSBAND AND I DIDN'T FIGHT OFTEN BUT WHEN WE DID IT WAS BAD.......AND ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS TO TELL HIM WHAT YOUR FEELING...YOUR BABY FEELS YOUR SADNESS AND HE FEELS YOUR STRESS, ADDRESS IT NOW SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AFTER THE BABY IS BORN.  

I HOPE IT GETS BETTER FOR YOU  

 
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May 1, 2006, 4:38 pm PDT

Fair is Fair

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opinion of 1st couple on mondays show.    i question the hope for this couple because, he was able to cry when viewing their actions on the big screen.   she on the other hand couldn't mustard up a tear.    i think when you can't cry, your done with a situation.   and.......here's a qoute for you madam......FAIR IS A PLACE YOU GO TO RIDE RIDES!         keeping that qoute in my head has helped me to cool down when i get really angry about fairness.      we're in the game of LIFE and there's nothing fair about that,  try to keep it together till you can be in a better place with God, then things will be fair. 

I believe FAIR IS FAIR.  I have 2 kids from a previous marriage and so does my husband.  I have always treated my step-children equal to my own children.  My husband, evident to me, doesn't believe the same way I do.   I love all of the kids and each of them for their individuality. My husband and I have been together for over 12 years.  Our kids now range between 16 and 22.  We have gotten into a lot of arguments concerning the kids.  I know it's always hard to combine families together.  I do strongly believe that all of the kids should be treated equally.  If one kid gets yelled at for 20 minutes for leaving a "hairball" in the tub, the other one should, too.  However, I don't do that.  I just clean it out.  What's the point in yelling?  Also, I love my step-son to much to do the same as his father has done to my son in the past.  I know I don't fight fair either.  I have been physically abused, verbally abused and emotionally abused by my husband.  I reach my blowing point of being de-graded, and the I blow up and do the same things he does.  I know it's not healthy.  But, Fair IS Fair!!!
 
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May 1, 2006, 4:40 pm PDT

MY MARRIAGE IS IN TROUBLE

I AM REALLY NOT SURE IF MY MARRIAGE WILL SURVIVE. MY HUSBAND AND I FIGHT ALL THE TIME AND WE HAVE A 9 MONTH OLD SON....WE NEVER FIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM NOR DOES HE HEAR US WHEN WE DO. BUT I AM AT A LOSS I AM SO TIRED OF THE HURTFUL WORDS AND MEAN THINGS HE SAYS TO ME. I PULL AWAY FROM HIM AND WE END UP BITTER AT EACH OTHER....THE PHYSICAL ATTRACTION IS GONE AND I WANT TO GET IT BACK.....HIS ATTITUDE JUST MAKES ME SO TURNED OFF BY HIM. HE IS NOT THE MAN I MARRIED ANYMORE. THE ONLY REASON I HANG ON IS BECAUSE I STILL SEE THE MAN I MARRIED DEEP DOWN INSIDE OF HIM....I JUST DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL EVER EMERGE AGAIN??? 

WE HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR 6 YEARS AND THE FIRST 3 WERE GREAT......NOW ITS JUST THERE.......I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO......SOMETIMES I JUST THINK I AM BETTER OFF LETTING HIM GO, SO WE CAN BOTH BE HAPPY. 

IF ANYONE HAS ANY ADVICE I SURE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT! 

THANKS 

 

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