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Dr. Phil shines a light on missing children. Some are taken by strangers, but more frequently a parent is the one to snatch them -- too often with terrifying results. The search for two missing girls takes a Dr. Phil investigator inside a seldom-seen religious community where worshippers live what some call "a simpler way of life." Follow this story of child abduction by a father -- now a fugitive of the law -- who is living on the run with his two daughters, while their mother desperately tries to find them. Then, imagine not seeing your children for 10 years. Your 3-year-old is now 13, your 6-year-old now drives, and your 8-year-old is graduating high school – and you’re missing it all. John Clark is living this nightmare. Find out what happened and why his ex-wife is now wanted by the FBI. Join the discussion.

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May 2, 2006, 3:11 pm PDT

Religous Group in South Africa

Does anyone have any information on the Group mention by Mr Clark on todays show that is in South Africa.
 
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May 2, 2006, 3:25 pm PDT

Obstruction of Justice

If Hutterite leader Peter Hoover does, in fact, either know where Michael Harry and children are or how they might be reached, could he not be charged with Obstruction of Justice for not revealing that information?After all, Michael is a fugitive being sought by the FBI.
 
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May 2, 2006, 3:31 pm PDT

05/02 Missing

 I am so happy I am no part of a "religious" cult.  A non-religious life is so  much safer, not believing in all this stuff.  I have never understood how these people go about their days with these beliefs, that a child belongs to a community, that they should not obey the law if it gets in the way of god and all that.  Why not just live?  It is horrible that those children were taken from their mother over their fathers illusions.  He should be in a psyc ward, and they should be home.
 
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May 2, 2006, 3:38 pm PDT

Misconceptions

It is so easy to generalize.  And usually wrong.  I live in western Canada and work in agriculture.  I work with Hutterites regularly.  "Generally"  they're like you and me.  Depending upon what you and I are like, that leaves the door wide open.  "Generally" the people I work with and know are funny, intelligent, curious, loving people.  There are definitely bad apples.  I would never suggest there aren't.  Pick any social, religious or cultural group and there are bad apples.  I don't agree with all the beliefs held by Hutterites, but, then again, I don't wholly agree with most groups on many topics. We're all allowed to hold our own views and opinions.   

  

I am not surprised by the comments from judyblue.  There are many people who know Hutterites and dislike them, or who think they know Hutterites and dislike them. Just like any other social group that may keep to itself, or, an individual, for that matter.  Many preconceived notions and misconceptions develop and are spread.  I don't know, why, sometimes it's from bad experiences, sometimes misunderstanding of  a different way of life.  I didn't know what to think the first time I went to a colony.  Turns out it wasn't so bad after all.  Warm, welcoming people.  Widely misunderstood.  Far from perfect, but so are you and I. 

  

Please, people, put away your broad brushes when considering your opinion of a group of people.  This is a sad situation for the people involved.  Their children are missing.  Hutterites are no more a "cult" than any other religious denomination.  They're different.  From their perspective, so are you and I. 
 
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May 2, 2006, 3:49 pm PDT

another place to look

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I am  totally in shock over what Mr. Hoover said on Dr Phil today.   How dare he put a condition on the mother to help her  get her kids back!!!   I am sure he knows where that monster has those girls hidden, and I think he should be arrested for obstruction of justice and harboring a fugitive.  I am just as sure that the woman's father from the second case knows where his daughter is and how to get in touch with her.  He could'nt even look at the investigator or his ex son in law when he talked to them, he just kept looking down.  Shame on everyone involved for keeping those children from the parents who love them.
       Dr. Phil, please look for the Hari children in Montana also.There are several Hutterite colonies in the area around Havre,Montana,includind Gilford and Chester,Montana.These would be very easy places for Michael to hide these children.Good luck finding these children.My heart aches for their poor mother.
 
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May 2, 2006, 3:50 pm PDT

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I certainly do hope these girls are found and the other missing kids that were aired. There is a very large Hutterite colony in Great Falls Montana. Which is why I am posting this message. I certainly do hope that the FBI agent involved is broadening his search this far. Although they may very well be very good people I don't believe in their beliefs nor the fact that they would harbor parents who have taken their children against court orders or the fact that they would keep any kids in their cult against their will.
I think we all are praying for the welfare of the children that are being forced out of their "normal" life they had and stripped away from one of their parents.  I am praying today because we also have a Hutterite colony just a few miles out of our small rural Minnesota town. Namely the Elmendorf Colony....I was SHOCKED to find out that it is indeed the one that Peter is from.  I cannot explain the frustration and ugly feeling in my gut to find out that this has happened so close to home.  I certainly will  take a closer looks at the Hutterites faces when I am driving by or when they are in town!
 
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May 2, 2006, 3:54 pm PDT

Disturbing

  

    Watching today's show I find it highly distrubing that in the United States of America this take's place.... Just watching that man Hoover? holding that baby in his lap creeped me right out!   something is deadly wrong there!  I wish  Michelle all the best in getting her children back.....  they will need all the help that can get! 

  

My heart went out too John, how hard it must be for him too face is ex-father in law knowing full well he knows where his daughter and grandchildren are, yet stands there and chats like they're long lost buddies asking about John's family......  it would take everything in me not too take that man and shake it until he told me!    

  

I can't wait for the follow up next season on this one hoping for the best!  
 
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May 2, 2006, 3:57 pm PDT

community

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Does anyone have any information on the Group mention by Mr Clark on todays show that is in South Africa.
Do you mean the community in South America? Are you referring to the Mike Hari case?
 
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May 2, 2006, 4:08 pm PDT

Doctor Phil Show.

Doctor Phil. I think that missing childrens is not good at all. After all Doctor Phil don't you think it is- up police to find these childrens instead of your peoples.  That what I think. See you tomorrow.----- 

Well I had better close now. Sincerley Your. Russell


  
 
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May 2, 2006, 4:29 pm PDT

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This show has not aired yet, so I'm not sure which religious group they belong to but Id hazard a guess that they are Amish from the pictures. It doesn't matter too much which group, Amish, Mennonite, Hutterite etc. The thing is that these groups live very well organized communal lives. Their religion is the corner stone of each group and the rules and laws of these groups differ from the mainstream of American life. 

I dint know yet if this couple married  in the secular world, but if they DIDN'T, if they married under the laws and rules of the community where the Father now lives, then the Mother KNEW that according to those rules..the children belong to the community !! NOT the parents alone..but the whole community. 

Its not the way of those of us who do not live in one  of these long established religious communities, but its their way and always has been. These are not "crackpot" people, they are very good citizens all around...they are just different. 

  

Dint be too quick to Judge ! 

  

BJ 

 the show has not aired and yet you were quick to judge even though you  stated "dont be too quick to judge". These girls have TWO parents!
 
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