Topic : 08/09 A Mother's Rage

First,  I have never cried so much watching a Dr. Phil show.  My husband watch this show with me and had tears in his eyes. I cant believe that a parent who says that they love there children so much could even think about doing something so horriable to there children.  I cant believe the dad just sat there and was like i had no idea at all that this was going on in the house. I think that is a load of crap!!! I believe if he didnt know that this was going on,then he would just sit there and hold her hand like it is all ok. I fear for the saftey of those children even going home with him. They seemed to clearly know what that stick was.  They were more concerned about the stick then the mom yelling and cursing at them. They just need a big hug from someone. I believe that Dr. Phil should have just rapped his arms around that little boy too!!! They probably never get that. Im glad that the mom realizes that she needs desperate help and is getting it before someone gets even more hurt and they have to endure that abuse any more. The dad just really makes me mad about this because he just seemed so fake about everything and seemed like he wasnt telling the whole truth. Like Dr. Phil says'' You need to get real with yourself and realize that there is a problem'' I believe that the mom has realized that there is a problem and that she needs help but it seemed like that dad needs to wake up and see that also.  I am really glad that Dr. Phil made it urgent to have them on the show sooner than later. Thank you Dr. Phil for that. I couldnt imagine being a child and going through that and not having the ability to do anything about it. They cant defend themselves and when they did they just got it worse. I feel for those sweet little children and pray that this family will get all the help that they need and i believe that Dr. Phil will do everything to his ability to see that happen!!!! God Bless this family and protect this family and these children. Thank you!!!!!!!!!   

I am outragged at these people.... how do you dare call yourself a parent and treat your child in this manner. I cried watching and felt angry that god would bless these ungreatful people with 5 beautiful children. Raising children is very challenging especially in the society we live in today, however no one deserves the type of treatment these kids are getting.  These kids should be taken away and these parents should be helped and prove after treatment that they are worthy of having these kids back.  I have 3 beautiful children and would never lay a finger on them.  I came from a background where my sibblings and I would be punished through belting and I vowed never to lay a finger on my children. With words and discipline, my kids are very well behaved. I know everyone deals with things differently and I do not mean to minimize the hurt, pain and psychological damage that comes from abuse and I do understand that it is a learned behavior BUT, there has to be another way to get the rage out.  PLEASE, LOVE and PROTECT THE KIDS, THEY ARE OUR FUTURE. My heart hurts tonite as I kiss my kids and tuck them in bed, I pray for Brandon, Shayna and their sibblings and hope these parents realize the blessing and gift god has given them.  

Dr. Phil, please make sure these kids are in a safe place.  We are their only hope 

Thanks for listening 

I think today's show was the most disturbing show I have seen on TV for a long time.  It is almost midnight and I cannot stop thinking about the safety and security of these children.  I have read several posts that evoke sympathy for this mother and the husband.  At this point, I feel anger towards this woman for taking her power as a mother out on these helpless children. She has taken her children's self worth away and that is not what God has set out for any of us.  Her sin is no different than someone who murders  or lies as all sin is the same, so noone can sit in judgement.   I pray for peace in her soul because that is only thing that can heal her.  But the children are the ones who are suffering most.  I felt it strange that the husband did not really react that surprised and from what the children are saying, he is a contributor.  So I was upset at the end of the show when Dr. Phil requested that he not leave Karen alone with the children.  He may not know everything that is going on but he obviously had an idea and supported her.  He supported her by saying the boy was an instigator and was a problem at times.  Well no wonder.  What other attention could he get, if he cannot get positive attention, he would act out to get anything?   I just hope and pray that resolve and protection come to these children.  I pray someone take these children and show them what love truly is and what a parent is supposed to do.  It makes me want to just hold them and tell them God made us all good, we are all the same, and we all have worth.    

Some woman some where has obviously hurt you very badly. And it's just as obvious that you've never seen a mother bear defend her cubs against the huge male that wants nothing more than to kill the cubs just because they aren't his. It's always a bad idea to generalize. 

Sometimes it amazes me what the human race is capable of. I missed todays episodes, though I have seen clips and the previews for it and all I can say is wow. I think, if you grew up with decent parents, it makes you appreciate them all that much more.  

Working in a school system, we do have to report our suspicisions--but as staff members we aren't told what happens once the administrators turn the complaints over to CPS/DCFS (in Illinois). It is hard to see kids that could have been very successful be screwed up by bad parenting.  

Hopefully the kids are in a protected environment now--because they definitely deserve better than what they have for parents.  

I can't believe a mother and father could be so cruel to their children.  I wouldn't trust the father with my kitty cats.  He knew what was going on, he just didn't care.  

He should be ashamed.  She has too many children and the pressure of taking care of them is too great.  Having twins- 3 years old- and then a baby.  Wow, but that still doesn't make it right what she is doing to those children.    The 9 year old daughter, I can't forget her precious little face when she ask Dr. Phil about the stick.  She was so afraid of being whipped with that stick.  She was so brave and such a little mother.  How could her mom call her such vile names.    The son being treated like that before he goes to school.  Wow, Dr. Phil you hit it on the head.  How did that child perform in school?  Poor children.  

As far as I'm concerned, those children should never be with their parents again.  They don't deserve them.  The children will never get over the emtional trauma that they have been put through.   Kicking a child is unforgivable.  How could you do that.  A little 9 year old carrying her baby brother out to the car.  The mother needs her fanny kicked a lot.  There is absolutely so reason for this behaviour.   I think I dislike the father the most.  He knew what was going on.  He is no better.  Kicking the children and that stick.   It should be used on them.  Oh, my blood is boiling.    

They need help alright.   I can think of a lot of ways to help them.  

Sorry Dr Phil, I just don't have sympathy for parent that are like that.  Thank you for helping these families.  You are truely a great man and I so enjoy your program.  

A Mad Mother Against ABUSE!!!!  

i don't even trust the authorities to protect these children from these people, unless the children are replaced in a home outside of their care.  So many times I have seen it, and I have been a victim of it, and so I have read other peoples posts of how the authorities do nothing, or atleast ignore it.  

I read an example where a lady on here even stated to the mother of how her ex husband and the step mother were abusing the children she baby sat for....then when the authorities called the baby sitter after being informed by the real mother of the abuse all they asked was if the home was clean????  UGHHHHHH!! 

My own nephews are being raised in a home (with their real mother) with a bunch of pot head, coke fiends and information of molestations happening there...My nephews own cousin from the same family is about 4 years older than him and she has shown to be all over him trying to make out and touch him...all i can say is his little girl cousin must have been harmed in some way to make her want to sexually attack my nephew.  When my brother informed DCS they never even went to the home, and only made a few check up phone calls....."is the home clean?"  The did nothing 

My nephews now live in a home where their running water is a hose from a creek, their electricity gets turned off ever so often because their grandpa robs my ex sister in law and wastes all their money on drugs....I don't know if my  sis in law has fallen back into drugs, for my nephews sake I hope not....But now she is dating an 18-19 year old guy, so called RECOVERING addict and bestfriend of her pot head brother, and then she wont take my nephew to preschool....when I told her its a good way to get him used to school, and why would she let him miss 4 out of 5 days she said because he doesn't want to go to school.  Now this is my brother's son, and my brother had a self professed allergy to school..lol...so I can see my nephew having many days of not wanting to go to school and I told her that...her comment was "i wont make my kid go to school."  My sis in law was 16 when pregnant and delivered her first child, she has no GED or diploma, and cannot hold a job...I've heard a saying about people like her "what was good enough for me is good enough for my kids."  HOW COULD ANY MOTHER NOT WANT BETTER FOR HER KIDS!  HOW CAN HAVING A CLEAN HOUSE MAKE ANYONE A GOOD MOTHER.. 

My father was a neat freak, navy guy, and yet he needed A LOT of help with knowing his boundaries and how not to rage at us kids....sure the house is clean, but hey how clean is my soul and how clean is the crap I am filling my kids heads with...A clean house does not prove you are a good parent.