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Topic : 08/09 A Mother's Rage

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Created on : Friday, May 05, 2006, 06:58:58 am
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(Original Air Date: 05/08/06) Karen is a stay-at-home mother of five who says her anger is out of control. She fears that if she doesn't get help right now, she'll fly off the deep end and do permanent damage to her children. Cameras placed in her home capture an alarming day in the life of Karen and her kids as she degrades and rages at them, and physically abuses her 10-year-old son, Brandon. Karen's husband, Jim, who says he has no idea what goes on in their home while he's at work, sees the home footage for the first time. What is his reaction? Then, hear from Brandon and his 9-year-old sister, Shayna, who describe what it's like to be a small child on the other side of a mother's intense rage. And, what did they tearfully tell the producers about how their dad disciplines them? Plus, Dr. Phil shows how Karen's 3-year-old twins are coping with their fear. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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Some viewers have raised questions about whether the Dr. Phil show reported Jim and Karen to the authorities after the taping of this show. Other viewers have expressed surprise that Karen and Jim's children were allowed to go home with them after the show.

Please be assured that immediately following the taping of "A Mother's Rage," the Dr. Phil show did make a report to local child protection authorities. As a mental health professional, Dr. Phil is required by law to make such a report if he has concerns about the safety, welfare or well being of a child. However, Dr. Phil does not himself have the authority to remove children from their parents' home.

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May 8, 2006, 8:30 pm PDT

Mother's Rage Show

Dr. Phil, I can't stop crying about today's show.  Those children's faces are imbedded in my mind - their sweet, innocent faces; besides being well mannered, they're beautiful children, all of them!  I can't believe how this woman could treat them that way.  I realize she's got some issues to deal with, and I applaud her for coming forward to try to get some help (and from the best, in my opinion!), but I can't help but continue to worry for the kids.  I want to do something, but what can I do??  I just want to take them home with me and hug them and show them what precious gifts of life they are!    

  

You know, I have a son who's twenty, and being that I only had one child, I've come to realize I'm just not as maternal as most other women.  Don't get me wrong, I LOVE KIDS!  My worry (of this crazy world) just freaks me out over my own.  But I would take these kids TODAY and give them a great, happy life filled with love and fun and laughter.  If there is ever anything going on in the way of collection of monies for the kids, or whatever becomes of this family, please report some follow up on this topic!  This is going to be on my mind for many, many days, weeks, months, YEARS to come...Thank you, Dr. Phil, for everything you do...I sure hope this family finds some peace in their wisdom of coming to you for help. 

 
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May 8, 2006, 8:30 pm PDT

THESE POOR KIDS

Man, parents don't realize that the things they say or do to their children effect them in every way. -- More and more younger people are having children and people that shouldn't have children -- have 5 of them. ---  

When do you think she realized that she had gotten out of control -- those children are 9 and 10 --- maybe for the last 10 years those kids have been getting treated like that. there is permanent damage there. I hope she understands that. --- -- This is why our children are so full of hate and then go to school and hurt other kids, this is where bulling starts. --- which is another problem in this world today. --- Mother or Father beats the kids and the kids go to school upset and angry and takes it out on kids smaller than him. --- THIS HAS GOT TO STOP RIGHT NOW--- parents need to know that their kids need them to be the parent, but also love them -0---- You know this is hard because you have the other show like Nanny911 and the kids on that show are spoiled and have no disipline, --- Instead of teaching us stupid things in school, they need to teach children and parents how to raise your children or if you are being hit or punished every day. --- please tell someone. ------    

I was so angry and upset after this show--- I wanted to hit the lady with the stick and see how she liked it, and call her names. --- and then the husband--- acts like he had nothing to do with it.--- he brought the stick home, he 'KICKED" the kids--- but only with the side of his boot--- how can the kids be that bad?---- I know for me, my childhood wasn't all happy times, but I am going to make sure, my future children are not afraid of me, as I was of my mother, and still am --- you shouldn't be in fear everyday and never knowing when or what you are going to do wrong to get hit. ---- Life is not supossed to be like that. There are So many people who want children, please if you can't be the best parent -- give them to someone who will love them and not beat them. ----    

 
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May 8, 2006, 8:30 pm PDT

I'm so disturbed

It has been several hours since watching "A Mother's Rage" episode, and I am still unable to control the tears. I don't think that I will ever forget those poor children. It just breaks my heart. We, as parents are entrusted by GOD to love, nurture, protect, teach, mold, respect, and cherish the perfect souls that our children are.  This family is only one of countless others that go unreported, unprotected and unassisted. This is not a "mother", she is a "monster" and the "father or stepfather" is just as guilty, if not more so in that he has the ability to stop what the children cannot. There is just no way that I can be convinced that this man did not know what was going on in that house. There were no expressions of surprise or disgust. Nothing.    

   

We can all chalk this womans behavior up to a bad homelife while she was growing up, or to resentment for life experiences that she is missing out on now that she is the mother of five, but it is my opinion that there is NO excuse for abusing her children. NO EXCUSE!!! We are all living, breathing, thinking INDIVIDUALS. We have free will, and free choice. She has made the choice to behave that way....she knows that it is wrong and out of control because she instructs her children to not tell, and if she is being truthful....she refrains from acting to this extent in front of her husband.    

She not only is a monster, but she is a terrorist. A terrorist to her own children. And that is unconscienceable.   

   

I would lay my life down this very moment for my children. No questions asked and without hesitation. Those children need to know what true, unconditional love is; they should be able to experience the feelings of safety and security that a real family can give them, and their home should be their sanctuary where fear of your own family is never even a consideration. I cannot imagine a mother who doesn't provide those most basic needs to her children.   

   

I could go on forever, so I'll stop now. Thank you Dr. Phil, for getting involved as quickly as you did. I can only imagine how much worse it was before she knew that your cameras were watching. This is going to haunt my thoughts for a long time to come, but it has also made me hug my children just a little bit tighter, and just a little bit longer, and love just a little bit deeper.   

 
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May 8, 2006, 8:31 pm PDT

Now I have 'rage.'

I am infuriated! Those children should NOT be under the care of those parents! WHAT is wrong with child protective services? I don't care if that woman was abused as a child. She is NOT a child now, and those children should be put first, not HER, and her 'problems.' My God, this is beyond believable! When did we stop caring about children in this nation? Did we EVER care?????
 
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May 8, 2006, 8:31 pm PDT

that was my mother

I'm 45 years old and I just watched my mother on your show.  No, Karen is not my mother, but her behavior is almost identical to my mother's.  The only difference is the frequency.  My mother did not range daily as Karen said she did.

I hope those kids do not grow up to be the wreck that I am.
 

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May 8, 2006, 8:32 pm PDT

What's their status now?

I don't know how long ago this show was taped but I wish Dr Phil would have the family's current status posted on this website.  There's something posted about how CPS was called but where are the children NOW?  Where are the parents?

Also, it's making me angry to see the mother continually say, "I don't know" when Dr Phil asks her WHY she's abusing her children.  Can you imagine little Brandon saying, "I don't know" to a question his mother asks him?  She'd beat the hell out of him.

   
 
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May 8, 2006, 8:33 pm PDT

God's Will

 Praise God that this family ended up on the Dr.Phil show!!It really reminded me of a family on our street who had six kids and she ran out in the middle of the street screaming(breakdown) and  

the ambulance took her away.This mother is hurting and she is hurting bad!The confusing part of the show is when the husband watched the tape and didn't show much emotions as he watched his wife hit the kids.I believe he knows what is going on.Maybe she is angry because she feels alone  

raising these kids.Some men think all they have to do is bring the paycheck home and  not helpbecause they want to be mister good guy and  mommy is the bad guy!!Husband  

step up to the plate or you will lose your family.it is the will of God that  brought you to the show  

and I will pray a novena for this family  


  

 
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May 8, 2006, 8:33 pm PDT

I am so sad for those children...

 I can not believe a mother could do that to her children.  I watched the show in disbelief, with my mouth wide open the entire time, I only wish I could have reached out for those kids and showed them what a mother’s love feels like.  I only pray that those children be taken from her and blessed with someone who would love them unconditionally, like a mother should.

Please, Dr. Phil keep us updated on those beautiful children. 

  

 
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May 8, 2006, 8:33 pm PDT

I thought I'd forgotten

As I sit watching the show I am bawling. This is my father's wife beating the crap out of me as a child. I thought that I had forgotten much of what happened to me, but OOOOHHH NOOOO, my mind was just waiting for something like this to remind me of the beatings  

Now, I wasn't the perfect child, by any means. I would hit you for looking at me funny. I hit my brother and sister. I even kicked my step-mother in the stomach when she was pregnant with my sister (I was about 8)  

If I wasn't beat with the belt with the metal holes in it, it was the hand.   

I remember my father sitting there watching sports while his wife chases me around the house trying to get me. While rounding the corner, I am able to unlock one of the locks on the door.   

As I round the corner again I am able to unlock another lock.  

If I am lucky, the third time around I can get the door open and RUN LIKE HELL.  

I remember the crying so hard that you can't breathe and watching the mother make fun of her son..I JUST WANTED TO BEAT HER...MAKE HER LOSE HER BREATH because she IS my step-mother. I HATE THAT BITCH.....MAKE HER PLEAD..."NO,  PLEASE,  DON'T"  

I was thrown out with the trash at the age of 12 because I was uncontrollable and she did not believe that her father molested me (we never talked about it since I was 12) Group homes and foster homes became my shelter. I did not get physically beaten, but emotionally I had no one. I learned to rely on myself and now I am a loner. No one understands how low I feel on a daily basis. I know that the constant belitteling is still in my head. I am ugly, fat, will never amount to anything and I will die alone.  

When you learn to rely on yourself, you realize that you can't talk yourself out of depression, anger, sadness and you learn to "hurt" yourself because that is all your worth.  

After 4 years of no contact with my father, step-mother, brother and sister I saw my sister and step-mother at a family gathering.  

I thought I was going to be happy. I pretended to be for my sister and other family members sake, but I was dying inside. I am still scared of her.  

After watching the show, I feel more down than ever. Why do I let her win? Why can't I let it go and move on with life?  

I think the hardest part is trying to act like nothing is wrong on a daily basis. I sit in my room and do not interact with anyone. I don't go anywhere unless I HAVE to.  

At work I get people telling me they think I am bi-polar (I probably am, but am too scared to find out) so I try not to let anyone know anything about me.  

Anyway, I am done for now. I just needed to vent and this board makes it easy because I know you can't see me and I won't get teased.  

Thank You  

   

 
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May 8, 2006, 8:34 pm PDT

I AGREE 100%

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Did anyone else feel like they had to give their kids some extra hugs after this show?  Mine were sleeping and I still felt like I had to do it.  OH MY GOODNESS.  I wish I could jump in the TV and just hug those kids and tell them how great they are.    

Now that the show is over, I'm shocked with myself for not focusing on the mother and being angry with her.  I focused on feeling so bad for the kids.    

I'm so happy that mother recognizes she needs help and I give her a lot of credit for that.  Hug your kids.....they didn't ask to be here.......they are amazing little beings!!!!  

So funny you said that- I posted this message this morning!!!  You and I think alike!!  LOL 

  

DO YOURSELF A FAVOR...

Sorry- gosh, this is the 3rd time I've posted today... I keep forgetting all of the stuff I want to say.  This should be the last.  I just wanted to mention to all of you who did see the show today - actually, I wanted to implore you to grab your kid or kids as soon as they walk through the door from school today or if they are little ones who are home with you, grab them right now- don't waste a second and hug them as if you'll never have another chance to.  That is one thing I got from the show today- just a surging profound need to grab my son and cuddle with him on the couch today when he got home from school.  He is 9 years old and he is still a cuddle bug....  just a year younger than Brandon.  Instead of being hit, kicked, shoved, dropped, screamed at, assaulted and abused, he could have been hugged, kissed, joked with, laughed with, patted on the back, tickled (they still like that at that age), and told how great he is.  What an absolute shame how much she is ROBBING from him!!!  I so hope there is someone in his life as well as his siblings lives that will do those things with them and mean it.  Not just like the facad that the family gives off in public.   

  

 
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