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Topic : 08/31 Son-in-Law vs. Mother-in-Law

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(Original Air Date: 05/15/06) They’re bound by marriage but at war with each other. Anneka and her husband, Michael, are no longer on speaking terms with Anneka’s mother, Marcia. They say Marcia hates Michael and wants him out of the picture. Marcia says Michael condescends to her, questions her parenting and is brainwashing her daughter. Is it right that Anneka and Michael refuse to let Marcia see her grandchild? Will the couple agree to give Marcia access? Plus, Anneka has a dark secret from her past. Could a terrifying incident be the cause of their current conflict? Will this family agree to find a middle ground for the sake of the baby? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 15, 2006, 2:42 pm PDT

05/15 Son-in-Law vs. Mother-in-Law

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I felt compelled to take a moment to say a few things about my future mother-in-law.  I've been with my fiance for over two years, engaged for a little more than one of those and right from the start, his entire family welcomed me and my mother as just another member of the family.  My fiance's mother has never stepped on my toes, said anything bad about me, we go out shopping and for lunch together and she tells me all the time that she loves me.  My mother had become her friend and valued as well.  I know there are terrible mothers-in-law and I am grateful for the one I am getting.  She's like a second mother to me and has taken the time to assure me that she would love to always be a part of my life with her son and our childrens lives, but that she will never interfere with our marriage or child rearing.  I just wanted to take the time to recognize the wonderful mothers-in-law out there and give you all a huge thumbs up! 

This is a great thing to say...because not all MIL's are terrors.

My MIL is one of the kindest and most wonderful women I have ever gotten to know. My relationship with her stands alone with out my husband. I would want her to be in my life no matter what.

I certainly hope I can be a good MIL someday when my daughter gets married. My MIL is a wonderful example of how a parent of adults should act. I am taking many examples from her for the rest of my life on mothering.

Thank you for this post.
 
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May 15, 2006, 2:42 pm PDT

I think I agree

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Guys a bit upset here, those that do not agree with me ok- you have a right. I am speaking however from experience. 

I am someone that maybe sees this biased. However Dr phil, there are toxic parents especially those that know how to manipulate and use people to their advantage. I am sorry but this woman (the mother in law) is a MANIPULATOR and SHOULD be kept  AWAY from that child. So she can do the same thing to the grandchild as she did to her own daughter. Thanks but no thanks. And it will happen, trust me, history will repeat itself unless these people stop her. They do not see anything wrong with their behavior. 

I am no longer speaking to my own mother and feel is the best thing I have ever done for myself and my 4 girls. She has brought me nothing else but misery.  And I can relate to the hole thing about sexual abuse and being unpathetic. That was also my mother. Somehow this is my doing and I should just leave in it the past. If we do not talk about it somehow it will disappear. She was cruel and unkind. I was told over and over how much a mistake I was. I am glad she is out of my life. 

I am glad that they are not letting her poison control their lives.  And the hole thing with her getting an attorney, all I can say is that she is VERY wrong. Thank goodness for Troxel vs. Grandville! Supreme Court ruling on grandparents rights. they have none

I also have a mother who is very manipulative and toxic.  How old are your children?  I have two girls ages 5 & 7.  I am almost afraid to keep them away from her because I don't want them to resent me and go running to her some day-when she will only tell them what an awful person I was for keeping them from her-and how she is only the victim in all of it.  What do you think?
 
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May 15, 2006, 2:43 pm PDT

AMEN!

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Oh, PLEASE!  It made me absolutely sick to watch Marcia's body language during the show - "deer in headlights" look, rolling her eyes...Marcia is one of those people who THRIVE on having conflict in her life!  She doesn't want to be happy - she wants to have a strained relationship with her son-in-law - she wants to be "the victim" for the attention it brings her.  I have 4 precious beautiful children who have the most fantastic relationships with both sets of grandparents. I LOVE my in-laws and my husband loves my mother and father. They are truly blessed beyond measure.  But, boy I tell you, if I had a mother or mother-in-law like Marcia, there is no way I would let her have a relationship with them and have access to use them to feed her sick personality.  What I saw on the show most likely IS how Marcia is - it's her personality and it's not going to change.  And for Dr. Phil to bring up the idea of how bad Anneka would feel once Marcia is dead and buried if she didn't try to mend this - I have one statement:  Marcia dug her own grave!
Well said! Amen!
 
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May 15, 2006, 2:44 pm PDT

unbelievable

 I've watched Dr. Phil faithfully for years and usually think he's right on the money.  However, this show today prompted me to register and post for the first time on this message board. 

Regardless of whether or not the peanut butter incident was warranted by a doctor's orders, if the parents told her not to give their child peanut butter, she should not under any circumstances have given the baby peanut butter!  Nevermind leaving her outside on a deck alone. 

Not reporting the rape is unforgivable.  Continuing to have any contact with this family member is both unforgivable and disgusting.  And when Annaka said that she continues to have a relationship with this man via Christmas cards and phone conversations, all the mother-in-law did was try to change things around to make Annaka look stupid by saying "Well, I'm sorry he has my address."  She knows good and well that that's not the point.  Any normal human being would at least cut off all contact with this person and put them out of their lives.....but any normal person would have them arrested as well.

I didn't see the husband as controlling.  He looked to me like a person who finally convinced his wife that she was worthy of the respect her mother has never given her.  He seems to have given her the "oomph" she needed to speak up in her own defense. 

The bottom line is that this woman obviously has zero respect for her daughter and her son-in-law.  How dare anyone demand to be in a delivery room?!  How dare she position herself in between an argument/disagreement/conversation between a husband and wife?!  She seems to genuinely want a relationship with her granddaughter, but going on past actions, I wouldn't leave her alone with my kids either because she seems determined to defy their instructions to the point of putting her granddaughter's safety in jeopardy. 

I simply cannot belive Dr. Phil did not call out this mother-in-law on her behavior.  She seems to be a very passive-aggressive, manipulative woman who will ultimately end up causing more problems in her daughter's marriage. 


 
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May 15, 2006, 2:44 pm PDT

You are so wrong!

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I have been married to my husband for almost twenty years and in the beginning my Mother-in-law was awful.  She was vindictive and did nasty things behind my back like cutting me out of my own wedding pictures that I paid for and displaying them on the walls at their lakehouse for the whole family to see.  It was a very strained relationship for a long time.  I did not understand why she was doing those things to me.  I never kept my children away from her or any of their grandparents as I think those are two different issues.  As long as the grandparent loves and takes care of the grandchild what right do you have to keep that child away from his grandparent just because you are upset with them.  I now have grown children and one grandchild that I only get to see once a month because they live far away.  You should all remember that one day you will be in this situation and then maybe your children will do the same to you!  Grandparents do have rights to visit their grandchildren and should exercise that if these types of situations are causing them not to have a relationship with their grandchildren.  I do understand that there could be abusive relationships and situations that could be harmful and dangerous to the children and then they should be kept away, but if you are doing it just because you are upset then you are wrong.   I love to listen to parents who think that Grandparents have no rights......you are wrong!!!
Grandparents do not have rights! They may have privileges, if the parents want them to. If a grandparent can spew venow to her son about his wife, she is a malicious person who should not be allowed to do the same to her grandchildren. My MIL could not separate the two and we made sure she didn't have easy access to our children...that's right...OUR children. We made the decision to keep her out together and now we breathe easy knowing she is out of lives for good!
 
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May 15, 2006, 2:46 pm PDT

NO MORE!

   

I haven't seen or spoken to my in-laws in over a year, and it is a blessing.   Distance seems to be the only thing that is allowing my husband and myself to heal withour being dragged down by their negative and controlling ways!  MIL is a constant "pot-stirrer."  

   

Enough was ENOUGH!!!  

   

I know why 2 of their 4 children moved 4 states away, and I know why my husband has the same flight responce.  Three hours is not far enough away for us, and we are willing to give up our lives here, and move even further away to escape this crap.  They are sick, and will die before they own anything that they have said and done.  It is sad and a waste of time.  

   

They get what they get.  Their judgements and lies have pushed us away.  Evil letters, and lies have pushed us over the edge. When the little pieces made a large picture as Dr P said, we stood up for ourselves, and their rage was INSTANT.  They have held onto and drug up and twisted instances from the past that are 12 years old, just so they don't have to talk about the present.  They are jealous of their own children, and turn them against each other just to have something to talk about.  Talking about the real issues with them is like them ignoring the 2 ton elephant that they have tried to hide under the rug.  "What elephant, I don't see any elephant!  You are just making that up."  

   

They want to know why we don't have children, and believe that it is a sin.  My husband and I cannot even fathom having children knowing how they would try to contol everything.  They cannot accept that we are happy with our jobs, our faith and our lives in general as it stands now.  Life does not have to be ruled by the church that they attend (my husbands psychologist considers a cult.)  

   

   

Controling freaks!  

   

They need to get a life!  They are no longer welcome in ours.  

 

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May 15, 2006, 2:46 pm PDT

Oh PLEASE!

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Ok there is always two sides of the story but to me it seems that the grandmother was trying to own up to her part but what about the husband he seems very controlling and it makes me sick....    

I mean please his little old feelings are hurt are because his wife is calling her friend real quick to share her joy of being in labor and he gets mad and wants to discuss it!!!! Grow up!!!  Own up to your part of the problem   

   

Men aren't capable of having their feelings hurt??? I can empathize with this. It might not have been a HUGE of a deal but when people are sleep deprived and stressed to the max (ever had a baby? Doesn't get much more stressful then that) they are over emotional and get hurt easily.

This was his first baby and maybe he just wanted to know everything about it.

Frankly when my husband and I have issues, fights, misunderstandings or hurt feelings we DO discuss it. It's much better then letting it cloud more important things.
 

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May 15, 2006, 2:46 pm PDT

Mother's Support

 Dr. Phil,
   I just watched the segment where the daughter turned to her mother and told her about the support she had hoped to receive from her.  I was in similar situation with my mother's brother, whom she loved dearly, and although the actual rape didn't take place the fondling did.  I was too afraid to tell my mother because I felt that she would blame me.  I had no where to turn.  I found out later that he had raped two of my cousins.  His own brother's daughters.
My mother has since passed and I never did tell her.  It's just something I lived with and only recently told me sisters about it.  It's a sad thing when daughters can't go to their mothers for support in fear that they will be fault somehow.  I am almost 53 years old and I was 15 when this happened.  There is so much more I could say about this uncle but that's another show.
 
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May 15, 2006, 2:49 pm PDT

Dr. Phil: The Mother Has Failed Her Daughter

   

At some point in this show, Dr. Phil talked about the son-in-law not being able to understand how the mother could miss her grandchild.  Dr. Phil said it was a guy thing.   

   

Dr. Phil, rape is a similar issue.  Yes some men are raped but it is far more a crime affecting a woman.  The mother has absolutely failed her daughter on this issue and she should have been confronted more strongly about it.  That mother ALLOWED someone to blame her 15-year old daughter for the rape.  How wrong that is and the mother just glosses it over.   

   

The mother, in my opinion, has lost all her right to see her grandchild.  If the mother were the "perpetrator" she wouldn't be allowed anywhere near that child.  So that she has put herself in a position that she is supporting that perpetrator - and is he still doing this crime to others? - makes her an unfit grandmother.   

   

If I were Anneka I would never feel safe allowing my mother around my child.  What if some other perpetrator - rapist - hurt the child?  Would the mother stand as idly by as she is now?   

   

I am so sad for Anneka.  I am so angry at the mother for her weakness.  I pray for the safety of the young child.   

 
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May 15, 2006, 2:52 pm PDT

05/15 Son-in-Law vs. Mother-in-Law

Quote From: kate90

 I've watched Dr. Phil faithfully for years and usually think he's right on the money.  However, this show today prompted me to register and post for the first time on this message board. 

Regardless of whether or not the peanut butter incident was warranted by a doctor's orders, if the parents told her not to give their child peanut butter, she should not under any circumstances have given the baby peanut butter!  Nevermind leaving her outside on a deck alone. 

Not reporting the rape is unforgivable.  Continuing to have any contact with this family member is both unforgivable and disgusting.  And when Annaka said that she continues to have a relationship with this man via Christmas cards and phone conversations, all the mother-in-law did was try to change things around to make Annaka look stupid by saying "Well, I'm sorry he has my address."  She knows good and well that that's not the point.  Any normal human being would at least cut off all contact with this person and put them out of their lives.....but any normal person would have them arrested as well.

I didn't see the husband as controlling.  He looked to me like a person who finally convinced his wife that she was worthy of the respect her mother has never given her.  He seems to have given her the "oomph" she needed to speak up in her own defense. 

The bottom line is that this woman obviously has zero respect for her daughter and her son-in-law.  How dare anyone demand to be in a delivery room?!  How dare she position herself in between an argument/disagreement/conversation between a husband and wife?!  She seems to genuinely want a relationship with her granddaughter, but going on past actions, I wouldn't leave her alone with my kids either because she seems determined to defy their instructions to the point of putting her granddaughter's safety in jeopardy. 

I simply cannot belive Dr. Phil did not call out this mother-in-law on her behavior.  She seems to be a very passive-aggressive, manipulative woman who will ultimately end up causing more problems in her daughter's marriage. 


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