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(Original Air Date: 05/15/06) They’re bound by marriage but at war with each other. Anneka and her husband, Michael, are no longer on speaking terms with Anneka’s mother, Marcia. They say Marcia hates Michael and wants him out of the picture. Marcia says Michael condescends to her, questions her parenting and is brainwashing her daughter. Is it right that Anneka and Michael refuse to let Marcia see her grandchild? Will the couple agree to give Marcia access? Plus, Anneka has a dark secret from her past. Could a terrifying incident be the cause of their current conflict? Will this family agree to find a middle ground for the sake of the baby? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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August 31, 2006, 4:52 pm PDT

08/31 Son-in-Law vs. Mother-in-Law

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AMEN

DITTO

ALL THE ABOVE...

 

DR. PHIL, GET A CLUE!!  GET OFF THE SET AND SEE THE REAL NIGHTMARE THAT DAUGHTER AND SON IN LAW ARE DEALING WITH!

Agreed... I know a little something about a soon to be Monster in Law... Some people live in a reverse universe where everything is someone else's fault, convenient for them I guess but they either do not realize how hurtful or destructive that is or possibly they are just monsters... I feel for Michael... I've been with my boyfriend for 4 years, we recently bought a house together and are very happy making plans for the future and just enjoying being together! Well when we had decided to take this leap in our relationship we had already been living together for years but my bf had been paying his mother rent at the time, which she claims he owed her... interesting wording from a mother "owed" but that's how she is everything is about what she's owed, what she's not getting and who she's not getting it from... anyway once we made the decision, yes because we are adults and we can actually make decisions on our own! (you'll have to excuse all my sarcasm, I've taken just about enough)  she went bizerk... I mean calling my bf to tell him that I really didn't love him and that she could "just tell" and then calling me to tell me that my bf was just using me and that we should get counselling cause we have problems...lol, spouting off lists of the things she's owed for and the trouble my bf was when he was growing up, this is the tip of the iceberg I could quite possibly write until my hands literally fell off of my arms... my bf has always had a difficult relationship with his mother... I refer to it as a minefield, you never knew when she'd just fly off the handle and start crying about something... she has taken it upon herself to inform the rest of the family how terrible my bf and I are... to the point that she's not even twisting words that we've said she's actually just creating new ones... who does this???? these are parents - correct me if I'm wrong because we don't have kids yet but isn't the point of raising children to watch them grow up and take on lives of their own, and teach them how to be strong, self sufficient human beings who can choose who they love and want to be with and make their own decisions.... I agreed with Dr. Phil when he said that the grandmother should have an "interest" but she does not have a "right" that is sooooo true! my parents always share their opinions with me and my bf and we respect it but do not always agree and my parents, as they should, respect our decisions...

If Anika is anything like my boyfriend, who is extremely sensitive and as mentioned on the show was abused - it seems to me that causing  her to feel any more guilt than she possibly already does is not right at all..  Anika's mother is an adult and she's made her view points very clear it's her choice... they need to put up boundaries that work for their home they can't accept emails and or phone calls that only make the situation worse - Anika and her husband have a responsibility to eachother and their child and they absolutely have the right not to have a manipulative person around who's goal is to tear apart a family, and I quote "even if it takes 30 years" By accepting these emails, phone calls and taking the abuse whether the mother in law is taking about Michael or Anika herself, giving her a platform to express these "crazy ideas" is not healthy for them... I say this because I have seen my bf take calls from his Mother that were devastating... calling him a lier, a cheat, saying he didn't care about anybody but himself... it's like I said these are people that can not own their own actions, they live in a reverse universe where it's everyone else's fault.... 

I do believe that people make mistakes and do deserve forgiving but how much do you take? how much are you suppose to endure? when is enough ENOUGH?????????????

 
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August 31, 2006, 4:58 pm PDT

Doctor Phil Show.

Doctor In Law Mother Phil Son Verse. Oh no not again. Oh I wish it was not true at all. See you tom-

orrow Afternoon. Well I had better close now. Sincerley Your. Russell


 
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August 31, 2006, 5:08 pm PDT

Stand strong parents!

I watched the show today.  What I saw was a loving committed couple, with a beautiful child.  I also saw a self-serving Mother-in-law.  It was very wrong for this Mother-in-law not to protect her daughter and defend her honor, when another family member harmed her, both physically and

emotionally.  I don´t have this history, but I did watch the show today.  What I did see is the husband really loves and honors his wife, the mother of his child.  As, Dr Phil stated, they are the family now!  Also the young mother who endured this trauma as a young innocent woman carries a lot of pain,

from the lack of honor from her mother.  When she said that to be a Grandparent is an HONOR, not a priviledge, that rung true in my heart.

After all the cross communication and heartfelt words, the Grandmother, only stated that she would do anything to see her grandchild.  I did not understand her lack of compassion towards her own daughter.  Also, wouldn´t she love the father of her grandchild too?  It´s a package deal.  I side with the parents on this one. Since this Grandmother did not honor and protect her own daughter, why

would she be trusted with the young grandchild.  I think that the only way that this Grandmother should be allowed to see her grandchild, is with the parents standing by at all times.  She should be thanking her lucky stars that her daughter has anything to do with her.  Also, what was the reason for sabotaging her son-in-law?  These parents need to go with their gut instincts.

 

I know what I´m talking about.  I was physically and emotionally abused by a parent, and Grandparents.

I have had the honor of parenthood, now grandparenting.  Each and everyone of us needs to be accountable for what we say and do to children.  I consider myself a children´s advocate for the above listed reasons.  Children should be seen and heard.  They are 25% of the population and 100% of the future. 

 
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August 31, 2006, 5:11 pm PDT

child molester

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After watching todays episode , alot of questions have been brought to my attention. My Fiance and I are expecting our first child this December. I'm on the middle of planning a baby shower and getting ready for the arrival of our daughter. But there is someone inportant to my unborn childs life that is missing; my fiance's mother. My fiance's much younger sister has accused her step father of molesting her. His mother and step-father have never done anything to me and it's killing me inside that I feel like I shouldn't have contact with either of them due to the situation. I see where and why my fiance doesn't want anything to do with his mother or stepfather. But I don't want to keep his mother, the "grandmother" of my child to be left out of her life. I know taking her husbands side hurts my fiance's sister. But I don't want to take sides with anyone, there is a court hearing soon. I honestly want my mother-in-law to be apart of our lives. My father-in-law, well, as for after court we will move forward from then.  I don't want this to affect my child's connection with her grandmother. I don't want to ban her from her life. This entire situation is tearing me apart. My fiance and I argue all the time about it. How I don't care for his sister and I'm being selfish. All I want is for my daughter to have both grandmother's around to see her grow up. What should I do???? I'm willing to move on from all this and what has happened is to be settled between her daughter and her. Why does this affect me and my new family.

I don’t quite understand….your future step-father-in-law is being accused of sexually molesting your future SIL, and you want to just ignore that fact and have a ‘normal’ relationship with him and his wife?
This isn’t going to be possible without offending your boyfriend and his sister. You don’t have to take sides, all you have to do is wait until the court hearing, and make your decision from there. If you were to have a relationship with the future in-laws, your fiance’s sister and your fiance would feel that you are disregarding her feelings. Then, these people would end up not being your in laws at all. Just be patient and wait it out. Its not like your baby is going to know who they are right away anyway!
 
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August 31, 2006, 5:13 pm PDT

A child blamed for her rape by an adult!!

I watched the show today.  And the thing that hit me the most, besides the horrible relationship with the mother vs. her daughter and son-in-law, was the fact that the man stated that his wife has some family members that blame her, at age 15, for a rape that occured by an adult male family

member.  Excuse me, but since when is it NOT the responsbility of the adult to know better.  She is a minor, I have better ethical and moral knowledge than to touch a 15 year old girl, let alone rape her.  This World we live in has some of the most ass-nine, brain dead people in it that can attempt

to make society believe that the raper is the victom.  Sorry Charlie, you are dead wrong in your way of thinking.  My daughter was raped by a man I trusted to rent a room from me, many years ago.  When my daughter told me what happened, he was immediately told to move out.  The only reason there was not a trial is because of society, and knowing that my daughter was to fragile to go thru

the rediculousness of a trial where they will try to twist it to make her equally responsible.  She was 12.  He was 48 or so.  He knew better.  I am glad he moved out of the State that I live in.  My daughter will forever be remembered of that event, because it happened on her father's birthday.

 

As far as the busy body mother in today's show, she needs to cut ties with that relative now.  She needs to get behind her daughter and show love and support and be a decent person, if she ever

expects her daughter to allow the grandma to be a part of her babies life.

 
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August 31, 2006, 5:18 pm PDT

Priorities

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anyone else seem to think the grandma was at least right that her daughter's husband is controlling - I think he is a bigger part of the problem than was addressed in the show.  Significant quote from him iat the start of the show where he states that he "allowed" his wife to go out all day Sunday - wow how nice of him. Lots of Anika's answers seemed to defend her husbands point of view -"parroting" his arguments for him - too bad his wife called a friend first while she was in labour I'm sure she got an ear full about that for days "understandably upset" was he ?? She was in labour for god's sake let her do whatever she needs to - maybe the friend is more of a support than her controlling husband. And why did'nt Dr. Phil address the husband same as the grandma - he called grandma on it when she avoided answering his questions however Micheal shifted right into stories and blame about the grandma instead of owning his part in the conflict - I've seen this how twice and same thoughts - you missed something here Dr. Phil - grandma's "calling it as she sees it"
Yeah, who cares about Grandma condoning her 15 year old daughter's rape.  Hey Anika is just a rotten troublemaker - she was probably asking for it.  NOT
 
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August 31, 2006, 5:35 pm PDT

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Now he's actually said about his wife "I don't condescend to Anneka because she has no education".  The more that jerk talks the angrier I get.  I'm surprised that Dr. Phil's harping on the mother-in-law lets him get away with all that garbage.  It just confounds me that nothing is being said concerning Anneka's body language with her husband.  She keeps her head down when he talks or when she talks about him.  He won't let go of her hand.  What?  Is he afraid she'll flee?  I also agree the Marsha that following her around school is bizarre.  Anneka can express her milk before she leaves the house.  The child is not required to actually be attached to the mother to get nourishment.  I have absolutely no doubt that everything Anneka is saying was fed to her before the show by Michael.  The fact that Anneka feels the need to tattle to her husband when her mother sends her angry emails just makes me crazy.  Why is Dr. Phil saying anyting about it???

 

Marsha is being Marsha.  She was that way before MIchael was in the picture and she'll be there until she dies.  Why hasn't Dr. Phil said anything about the fact that Anneka married a male version of her mother?  That's so obvious I'm screaming at the television!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I have absolutely no doubt that everything Anneka is saying was fed to her before the show by Michael. "

 

Does that include her rape?  Marsha is being Marsha?  Hey what's a little rape between mother and daughter?

 
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August 31, 2006, 5:40 pm PDT

I understand

I know how the daughter feel. I was having the same problems with my mother and i went through the same thing as she did and i was 16 yrs old when a family member malested me when his wife died 2 weeks earlier. My mother did not do anything for the person that did that to me. Because my grandmother did not want to lose contact with my cousin.  Nothing was ever done. Then when my daughter was born. My mother tried to keep my husband(boyfriend at the time) from seeing our daughter from being born.  But my Husband pushed her out the way. Then when she was born she pushed my husband out of the way and  she held my daughter before my husband and i was so druged i did not know until it was too late. We finally fixed our problem. We moved away about 3 street away. I love my mom. But i do not go over there as much. I stay at home or go out when i want and she can not but in because i do not let her know where i am going. Like i said i love her but i do not have to put up with her. I have lived on my own since i was 20 yrs old and 5 months preganant and i am not going back. I am too dang headstrong like her and i refuse to move back into the house with her. I have been with my husband for 7 yrs 6 months. We are still on our own.
 
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August 31, 2006, 5:42 pm PDT

Excellent sharing of information!

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So true, i was shocked at Dr. Phil's response as well.  Yes, everyone has a side and their 'reality' but you have to also be able to see the reality as it is too and sometimes it is ONE PERSON and they are the cancer cell.  This mother in law is a slow growing cancer cell and she needed to be called on the table for it.  and to even remotely have a child in danger,  not worth a 'grandmother' see her.  Not worth the risk.  Ths grandmother seems that she does things almost defiantly, vs. what is in the best inerest of the child.  And she surely doesn't take direction from the parents.  Dr. Phil, you took the easy way out.  And you even added guilt to the daughter talking about her death.  No crap, death is a part of life and it's a cheap trick to bring that up.  But what about if someone else died before the 'grandmother'... what then? And you didn't even validate at all the daughter's rape issue and how the mother responded.  shocking.  Dr. Phil, come on - put a controlling, manipulative person in their place.  It's not that hard.

Thank you for sharing such intelligent information.  I couldn´t have said it any better.  I did write my own response to today´s show.  I respect the work that you do, and your knowledge.  I am glad that a person like yourself took the time to write from your point of view.  I agree with, not feeding a two year old peanut butter.  You don´t just do things to defy the parents, then hurt the child.  This is NOT a game.  This Grandmother is NOT responsible for her actions!  As I saw her on the show, she did not even show that she felt any compassion or empathy for her daughter´s pain.  It was just that she would do ANYTHING to see her grandchild.  Hmmm I wonder what that means?  I also noticed that this woman did not ever seem loving. 

 
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August 31, 2006, 6:09 pm PDT

I am on the same path

After watching today's show, I can't help but dread what will be waiting for me in a few years. My fiance and his stepmom never got along due to the fact that she was partly responsible for his parents' divorce. I fully understand how bitter he can be, but nearly a year ago, after trying to mend things and just being civil with her, I had a fallout with her. I am not here to defend myself, nor to explain myself, but the fallout occured over the fact that we were too young to know what was right for us. Perhaps, I should've mentionned that we're both in our mid twenties and we're not young teens.

 

 Since then, we have not been on speaking terms and it is getting more and more difficult for me to see my future father in law. He came to see us twice in a year since the incident and my fiance has gone to their house approximately 5 times since then. I on the other hand, have not seen her nor am I ready to confront her. My fiance doesn't want me facing that woman again and I commend him for stepping up for me and defending me when it was the time to do so. 

 

Watching today's show just made me think about the future. In a few years, we're going to have children and at the time being, we have no intention on allowing her to see our children. I don't want to have to go through all the turmoil. We definitely want to include the "grand-father" in the picture once we have kids, but we certainly don't want the "step-grand-mother" anywhere near our child. Let me describe my future in-law. She's a raging alcoholic yet she doesn't seem to realize it. She smokes like a chimeney despite having us tell her that I have difficulty breathing if people smoke. She likes to butt her noise in everybody's business and to tell you the truth, we're afraid of the woman. We always think that someday, she'll turn into a psycho and physically harm us all. Anyways, I am not here to justify my anger towards her, rather, I am here to ask you this: are we being horrible people for wanting to cut her out of our lives forever? Are we insane for wanting to cut out any "unhealthy" relationships or individuals from our lives before we start our family?

 
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