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Topic : 09/05 The Divorce Experiment

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Created on : Friday, May 12, 2006, 10:03:49 am
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(Original Air Date: 05/16/06) Are you married to a man who doesn't know how good he has it? You do the cooking, the cleaning, take care of the kids, and he still takes you for granted? After seven years, Amy finds herself in a marriage where she is expected to wait on her husband hand and foot, and never voice her opinion. Her husband, Greg, is a self-proclaimed male chauvinist pig, and says his wife's job is to take care of the family without questioning his role as "king" of the house. Amy says if Greg doesn't learn to treat her like his equal and not his servant, she's going to divorce him. Dr. Phil sends in a Relationship Rescue team of strong women to teach Greg a lesson! While Amy is sent off on a special trip to build her self-esteem, Greg gets three new "wives" who give him a dose of his own medicine as they put him through all that he demands of his wife on a daily basis. Will he finally see Amy as his equal and become a better spouse in the process? Talk about the show here.

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May 15, 2006, 11:26 pm PDT

I hope it works

 Well it seems like too many men and women take their spouses for granted. I hope that this show has changed Greg forever. I cant wait to watch those strong women they recruited, they seem like they know how to show him whats up! Especially that Rebecca she sounds like a real kick in the pants!
 
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May 16, 2006, 3:05 am PDT

Both parents?

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It is not just the resposibility that he does not think but, his mind set.  My ex said he could do everything I do but better and faster than me.  Or when I clean he went back and would clean again.  He always said: "Anyone else would be happy that thier husband cleans"  We both worked but of course he beat me too.

I agree that children need both parents. In a happy marriage that is so true!  

I chose to leave my marriage as I didn't want my children thinking that it was "normal" to be expected to do everything, be yelled at and have your self esteem slammed. I didn't want them growing up thinking that that is the way a marriage is suppose to be.   

 
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May 16, 2006, 4:41 am PDT

having a hrad time

 I am new here,but i feel I need answers.I have been married 27 years to a husband who was similar to the man on the show.I finally had had enough 2 years ago and left for 17 days.He has changed to some degree since I came back.My marriage is better now then before.But I struggle with things daily.He used to be so mean and and I have bad memories about everything we ever did together, trips.....working around the house...just about everything we do now reminds me of the way he treated me in the past. My main concern for this week is,how do I stop the bad memories from coming to mind?I don't like to make plans for trips and all because all I can think of was how bad a time I had in the past with him.How do I get past my past with him?He says it's in the past and I need to just get over it.But I can't seem to.Thanks for listening.
 
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May 16, 2006, 4:43 am PDT

05/16 The Divorce Experiment

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Self-esteem does not come from a partner, loving or otherwise. Self-esteem can only come from inside oneself.  When one is with a partner who is verbally and/or emotionally abusive that can certainly be destructive to a person's self-esteem, but if the victim had good self-esteem to begin with she (or he) wouldn't have put up with an abusive partner after it became clear the partner was abusive.   

   

If you love and respect yourself you won't allow anyone else to disrespect or mistreat that special, valuable, wonderful person you know yourself to be. If you believe you are "less than", not good enough or for some other reason deserve rotten treatment, you'll accept it until you reach a breaking point. (Dr. Phil always says that you teach people how to treat you. That is part of what I'm talking about here.) These beliefs about the self can be so ingrained that someone who has them may not even realize how strong or destructive they are.  Perhaps a parent or other authority figure planted the seed for them in early childhood.  

   

There are usually early warning signs that a potential mate is unsupportive or abusive.  Often, people expect that the person will change and improve with time and marriage. What time and marriage do is bring out the quirks, warts, and whatever dysfunctional upbringing people have and opens the door to unrestrained abuse from those who are abusive.  

   

I believe that poor self-esteem PRECEDES an abusive relationship, and is at the core of why victims become victims.  The abusive spouse simply pries open the crack and makes it a chasm. The crack had to be there to start with.    

   

I can tell you that no man will ever get away with being verbally/emotionally abusive toward me again.  After much self-analysis, I could finally see how I didn't respect and love myself and in turn didn't require men to respect and love me.  Marriage or no marriage, I guarantee you that I will walk away from any man who doesn't treat me as an equal, valuable, wonderful, true partner, or who doesn't recognize and appreciate the unique and wonderful woman that I truly am.  

   

-Hannah R.   

You are definitely right about that. People are forgetting that it is self-esteem. It's self-concept. And while abuse may make you feel a little crazy and start to question your own sanity after a while, it will only destroy you if you allow it to, or if you have a low self-concept to begin with.

Sometimes we seem to need to learn the hard way even so.

 
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May 16, 2006, 5:10 am PDT

Wrong Movie

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In Kramer vs. Kramer there was a little boy not a girl that they fought over custody for.  You must be talking about that other movie with Drew Barrymore when she was little.  I can't think of the name of it but she ended up divorcing her parents. 
This was not "Kramer VS Kramer". It was called "Irreconcilable Differences".
 
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May 16, 2006, 6:01 am PDT

Male Chauvinist

My best friend is married to man just like Greg only he does not verbally say things ,it is in his actions. They both work only his money is his. They have two teenage children in private school which she pays for as well as the mortgage and all household bills. If he gives her money it's no more then $130 a week and he will ask for some of it back for whatever. Only when the car insurance is do will he pay anything. He verbally abuses the children, calls them all kind of names. He keeps saying he can't wait to leave but he won't leave. He has drained her credit union accounts and her checking account, bounced checks all over the place. I finally talked her into removing him from her accounts. He was upset about that and really pitched a fit.. I hear all of her crying but she will not take any action. Everytime I go for  a visit he is Mr nice guy. He knows I know everything. I hope she looks at this show...  
 
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May 16, 2006, 6:49 am PDT

I feel sorry for your husband.

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I guess I'm lucky. We had a lot of these problems straighted out a long time ago. When we first moved in together, my husband tried the same thing. We left of work at the same time because I had to take him to his job. Then after I got off from work, I couldn't head straight home. I had to pick him up. When we got home, I had to fix supper, then clean up the dishes afterward. He had off during the week plus Sunday, I had off on Saturday and Sunday. He usually did laundry on Sunday over my parents' house and I cleaned the apartment on Saturday.   

   

That was fine with me until he began to like football. Then he wanted to spend every Sunday with his best friend to watch the game. He wanted me to get up on Saturday morning with him because he had to work. Then take the car and go over my mother's and do laundry. I told him I clean the apartment on Saturday, he told me that I could clean on Sunday while he was watching football over his friend's house. Then I found found out that he didn't do anything on the Wednesdays when he had off except play video games. I was ******.   

   

So I went on strike! I didn't cook, clean or do laundry. And when I got laid off from my job. I didn't do any thing then either. When he got home from work, he had to cook dinner and clean up the dishes. He got  the message real quick. Now we work together. We have a rule, if you see something needs to be done. DO IT!! I also have a pillow that says, "Please press button for maid service. If no one responds, do it yourself."  

   

Since now I'm a stay at home mom, I take care of the kids, laundry, cooking and most of the cleaning, but my husband still does all the vaccuming and takes care of the car. I think that's a nice division of labor.  

You seem so immature. I agree that if you are both working full-time then the chores should be devided. But, when you were not working and you still didn't do any house work, shame on you! You are worse than your husband by a long shot.
 
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May 16, 2006, 7:01 am PDT

05/16 The Divorce Experiment

 I think this guy has alot of growing and changing to do before he DESERVES a wife.  No person should have to put up with demeaning remarks and domination by the person that is supposed to LOVE them.  I'm not sure what all has happened in this guy's life, but there is a point where you just have to learn to let it go and trust SOMEONE.  He doesn't have to be the same person at home as he is in public.  In fact in the privacy of his own home it's the PERFECT place for him to let his softer side out.   He really needs to get out of his comfort zone.

I think he really hams up the "I'm the man" stuff because he really  just doesn't feel all that great about himself in the first place.  That's a classic sign of low self esteem.   Usually people that put  other people down are the people who feel scared or ashamed about something in their lives.  I think this guy just doesn't want to admit he has fears, regrets, and other "weak" human emotions.

No matter how much you love someone you should never subject yourself to being demeaned the way Amy has.  I hate encouraging people to get a divorce, but I think at least seperating for a time might be beneficial.  Greg needs to make some serious changes in his attitudes and behaviors before Amy should consider going back home with him. 
 
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May 16, 2006, 7:17 am PDT

Wish them well.

Sadly, the husband still doesn't get it. He would rather be "right" than have a happy marriage. He is apparently willing to sacrifice his family so he can still "appear" to be the boss.  

  

HOPEFULLY, he will want to get help and he will be open to it. If he is willing, I hope his wife honors her vows and stays with him.  

  

If he refuses to get help and by her getting help alone he doesn't change, she must take action so as not to lose herself. She seemed so sad and alone...even in a crowded room.  

  

I have to shake my head wondering why she married a man who doesn't appear the type to try to hide his opinions and beliefs before their marriage. What are we women thinking at times?????? Some of us would rather be a couple and be miserable than be alone! Very sad. 

  

God bless them BOTH and may they each work on themselves FIRST so they can then work on their marriage. 

 
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May 16, 2006, 7:22 am PDT

Poor advise

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I can't wait to see if this guy gets it with the 3 new wives special!!! 

As  for what I have to say .....well....there is NO WAY I would have accepted any of this NON what so ever ....not a moment of it ....I really don't get it I don't ....Why would you have to analyze your couple ??? In a situation like this ???...There's no two ways about this situation ....Get the hell out ...The guy is a NUT CASE.....On top of everything at the point where the relationship is ...from the previews I've seen today ....There's really no turning back......after everything shes been trough with the NUT CASE ...There can't be LOVE impassible.....But then again ...Life is weird at times ...I'll see what happens tomorrow on the show .....!!! 

Your post is an example of why there is a 60% divorce rate in this country and many messed up kids. Marriage vows are sacred and even secular Dr. Phil talks about doing EVERYTHING to make the marriage work before walking out the door.  

  

Marriage is not supposed to be easy all the time. Do you quit each job you have the minute something bad happens? Is that the way you want your children to approach their education and/or their friendships? Walking out is the last option; it should NEVER be the first option unless their is emminent danger.  

  

If this husband is willing to get help, the marriage vows should be honored and the wife should see if there is a chance for their marriage. The wife also needs to work on herself since he wouldn't be doing what he does if she didn't allow it...remember, "We teach people how to treat us!" BOTH man and wife need to work on themselves if the marriage has a chance of surviving. I wish them the best!  

 
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