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Created on : Friday, May 12, 2006, 10:03:49 am

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(Original Air Date: 05/16/06) Are you married to a man who doesn't know how good he has it? You do the cooking, the cleaning, take care of the kids, and he still takes you for granted? After seven years, Amy finds herself in a marriage where she is expected to wait on her husband hand and foot, and never voice her opinion. Her husband, Greg, is a self-proclaimed male chauvinist pig, and says his wife's job is to take care of the family without questioning his role as "king" of the house. Amy says if Greg doesn't learn to treat her like his equal and not his servant, she's going to divorce him. Dr. Phil sends in a Relationship Rescue team of strong women to teach Greg a lesson! While Amy is sent off on a special trip to build her self-esteem, Greg gets three new "wives" who give him a dose of his own medicine as they put him through all that he demands of his wife on a daily basis. Will he finally see Amy as his equal and become a better spouse in the process? Talk about the show here.

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jostman199

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May 16, 2006, 12:21 pm PDT

He was a jerk

First of all yes if the woman is a stay at home mother she should do most of the household chores because that's her contribution to the house during the day. However.....the husband doesn't get to do nothing once he's home he has to contribute as well. This guy got what he deserved by the three ladies yelling at him. I hope in future shows when it's the woman that's a jerk and insensitive Dr Phil has three men yell orders at her so she knows what it's like too. It's a good way to let the man/woman see how badly they've been treating their spouse.

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jostman199

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May 16, 2006, 12:23 pm PDT

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Quote From: jamie_lea

OMG....I cannot believe what I am seeing! Im so ticked off (trying to not say anything offensive) I could blow up. I can't believe she's been married to him so long. I'd have kicked him in the balls a long time ago. What a jerk.

I agree the guy is a jerk but don't go supporting violence against anyone man or woman it solves nothing and only causes more problems. grow up

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donna2236

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May 16, 2006, 12:33 pm PDT

Hate to point out the obvious ladies

This guy might be a jerk...OK he is. BUT...I always have a tough time listening to women whine that they have to do everything around the house. THIS IS ONLY DIRECTED AT 100% STAY-AT-HOME WIVES OR MOTHERS OF SCHOOL AGE OR OLDER KIDS. I'M ASKING THAT YOU PUT ON YOUR RATIONAL HAT...BE REALLY HONEST WITH YOURSELF ABOUT HOW YOU SPEND YOUR DAY. Well...if your husband is at work all day supplying the income that makes that house and everything in it possible...YOUR half of the bargain is cleaning the house and treating it like the job you want it to be considered. It's called 'Division of Labor'.

The big thing these days is to attach a dollar value to everything the stay-at-home does around the house.

Well...how would you like it if your husband presented you with a BILL for what it would cost YOU to live in the same kind of house you live in...what it would cost YOU to pay your own utilities, food, clothing, healthcare, furniture, entertainment, you name it. And you get to stay home to boot. And all you have to do is hold up your end of the bargain.

Does your husband ask you to come to his office and generate that quarterly P&R spreadsheet? Does he ask you to come to work and write sales proposals...does he ask you to come to his auto repair shop and rebuild a transmission?...and the 1,001 things a working man has to do to keep that roof over your head. Well then...why do stay-at-home wives ask their husbands to come home from work and the political bullcrap he has to deal with there...and VACUUM !??? Why does he have to help you do your half of the work? I'm a woman who wonders these things all the time. I have respect for what I do...take pride in it...and see it as a trade off for not having to deal with a daily commute...office politics...and I TREAT IT LIKE A JOB THAT I ALWAYS LOOK TO IMPROVE UPON. Just like the pressure my husband feels in his career to stay competitive...to survive corporate shake-ups...to improve HIS skill set so our lives can be supported. It's a division of labor that keeps our little world turning smoothly. Stop whining and be glad he doesn't present YOU with a bill for what HE does for YOU !

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jostman199

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May 16, 2006, 12:36 pm PDT

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The entire premis of this show bothers me and bothers me a lot. I'll try to explain why.

The Dr Phil show already has a serious problem with anti-male sexism: Misandry is the technical term. Ramping up a serious problem by cherry picking topics is a danger to all viewers. It distorts and twists the already twisted gender based views of a good many people. Look at the posts here, before the show even airs there is significant misandry.

There are men like this. No one disputes that! All of society is quite aware of these men. There are women who are every bit as bad. Few know about them and many (maybe most) support a woman's right to be a bigot as long as her contempt is aimed soley at men.

In our society, a woman's right to behave as badly as she wants reigns supreme, (as long as the bad behavior is aimed only at men). That is a problem and a problem which is getting worse rapidly. This show, rather than helping a women, will hurt innocent men. BET ON IT! Bet everything you own and everything you ever will own on these concepts hurting children and innocent men.

It's a real pity you women cannot hear what so many men are saying in private conversations. To a great many men, you are uncaring, rude, arogant, narscists. THAT I'S A PROBLEM! That is a bigger problem than the one on the show. That is a problem which needs to be addressed and one which should never be made worse.

You do not want men feeling bad about women. Such feelings are bad for the man, bad for all children and bad for you too.

Therein lies my complaint and my problem.

I'm aware as can be that most of you disagree or do not see the problem. Again, that is in and of itself a problem. A problem which exists and cannot be worked on festers and gets worse. Our society has a serious contempt for men problem every bit as much as the Dr Phil Show does. Every effort should be taken not to make a severe problem worse.

100% agree, I hate the way our society has made men guilty before proven innocent syndrome. It's perfectly acceptable to see a woman slap a man on TV/Movie or say "men are pigs" etc....how would women feel if we referred to all women as "B's". Another thing I hate the same act by a woman is referred to as strong, independant, confident where the same actions by a man are labeled committment phobic, controlling. Also notice on Dr Phil's shows when the man is the jerk he acts very serious and is very tough on the man(rightfully so) but when it's the woman he's smiling laughing and doesn't act as tough on her. Just like the show the other day Phil asked what the husband did to contribute the the negative aspects of the marriage, several times. However Phil didn't once ask the wife the same question just saying he'd have Robin have her hormones tested or whatever.

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jostman199

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May 16, 2006, 12:40 pm PDT

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When you are dating, you are a queen. When you marry, he becomes King. MY experience has been that I divorced over religious reasons. He thought he was God, and I didn't! That husband needs a swift kick in the ass. Jackie

Same thing happens alot the other way around too though. When they're dating the woman treats him like a king, lots of affection, respect, caring, help, etc...When you marry all the sudden he can't even fold a towel how she likes it without being nagged, no sex and barely even want to have him touch her.

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May 16, 2006, 12:49 pm PDT

I wasn't being immature

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You seem so immature. I agree that if you are both working full-time then the chores should be devided. But, when you were not working and you still didn't do any house work, shame on you! You are worse than your husband by a long shot.

I wasnt' being immature. I was trying to show him that he couldn't and wouldn't step on me. But I should have said that I was 22 at the time. Maybe I could have done some, but we were also living in an apartment so there was no grass to mow or repairs to be made. BTW I was only out of work for about two weeks even though I didn't do any housework for about a month. It was the second week when he came to me and said that we needed to change. I wanted him to appreciate me and work with me. His step father was lazy and didn't do anything. I wasn't about to live like his mother.

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May 16, 2006, 1:06 pm PDT

This Man Needs A Wake Up Call!

I hope this man has got a clue after Dr. Phil got done with him. I hope the women did to. I feel most women that are stuck in that kind of relationship think thats all they deserve, or don't have any where else to go. I was like that and I got tired of being treated like crap. I lost weight, learned to stick up for myself, Got some self worth. Started caring about me and now I'm Divorcing my husband. You Don't Know What You Have Till It's Gone. He's begging me to drop the Divorce. It's too late. So guy it could be you. It's her way are the highway! Male chovinist PIG. Kimberly from Ohio

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May 16, 2006, 1:09 pm PDT

Sorry

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How did you get to help Dr Phil with this "male chauvinist pig intervention"

I was surfing Dr. Phil's web site and came across a question of -what would you do to this guy?- I simply answered the question. I said I would take away his power and make him feel like he makes his wife feel. I said that I am a strong woman and would not back down from anyone. Then I got a call from the show asking me to send in a video of how I would get Greg to do the dishes, so I did. They receive many entries and then chose three wives that they thought would be good for the job. I was one of those women. Yeah!!!! I Loved every minute of it and hope to get to do it again. I know that it doesn't look like Greg took anything away from this but I saw his face and I have hope that this will give him a wake up call. Thank you for reminding me about your question because I'm just learning how to respond. My wonderful husband is helping me.

Rebecca***aka***Spitfire

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May 16, 2006, 1:15 pm PDT

No sympathy here

I want to start off saying he is a sex-est pig. I am also a house wife and i to have kids, one being a 5 month old. By the time my husband is home the house is clean the dishes are done, the laundry is down and super is waiting on the table. I don't understand what she does all day. If she works than i completely understand but if she is a stay at home mom then that is her job. I don't really feel sorry for her. The way he talks to her and demands things is truly wrong. Now him complaining about her cooking needs to stop. Maybe she should try asking him exactly how he wants it.

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May 16, 2006, 1:18 pm PDT

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Quote From: pierceave

wow, I can relate to you.......I have done this same thing......with "3" failed

marriages.....but No Children. Not having children makes it easier to "split"

but marrying someone you know is and angry person Just goes to show you...

things don't change until the person wants to change......if ever. good luck

it always amazes me how many other people are in, or were in, the same situation that i used to be in myself...I worked 60 hours a week outside the home, did extra work for my employer for an additional 20 hours a week so we could pay the mortgage while my ex-husband "searched for the perfect job". I paid all the bills (minus the telephone), cooked the meals that were "not good enough", cleaned the house (and re-cleaned it with him standing over me because he didn't believe that i'd done a good enough job and wanted to see how badly i did), entertained his friends with dinner parties (to which he would criticize the food, even when i served king crab legs, filet mignon with bearnaise sauce, homemade caesar salad, and homemade cheesecake at times!), and ran after him when he forgot his keys and whatnot. This, along with emotional/verbal/sexual abuse caused the end of our marriage- and when we were separated, he tried bringing me his laundry to do- and was astonished when i said no!!!! when i finally got the checkbook back from him, i found out that instead of studying for his degree (the reason he couldn't work, supposedly), he was spending the mortgage money on fortune tellers! we had no children, so leaving was a little less burdensome, and i have since remarried a wonderful man. our goal in life is to raise happy and healthy children, and to just LIVE life and enjoy every minute-he actually thanks me daily for doing the laundry or cooking meals. there are wonderful people out there...hang onto your self worth, and if you can't fix the relationship that you're in, start over. people are not slaves-not to do other people's work, not to be a punching bag, not to be a verbal catch-all. good luck to all of you, and remember, you are a good person, no matter what you've been told!

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