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(Original Air Date: 05/16/06) Are you married to a man who doesn't know how good he has it? You do the cooking, the cleaning, take care of the kids, and he still takes you for granted? After seven years, Amy finds herself in a marriage where she is expected to wait on her husband hand and foot, and never voice her opinion. Her husband, Greg, is a self-proclaimed male chauvinist pig, and says his wife's job is to take care of the family without questioning his role as "king" of the house. Amy says if Greg doesn't learn to treat her like his equal and not his servant, she's going to divorce him. Dr. Phil sends in a Relationship Rescue team of strong women to teach Greg a lesson! While Amy is sent off on a special trip to build her self-esteem, Greg gets three new "wives" who give him a dose of his own medicine as they put him through all that he demands of his wife on a daily basis. Will he finally see Amy as his equal and become a better spouse in the process? Talk about the show here.

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May 25, 2006, 9:04 am PDT

Are people really that miserable?

I watched this episode last night (I must have TIVO'd it).  I heard Dr. Phil say that he gets "thousands" of letters about how miserable women are in relationships like this.  Thousands?  Am I just naive?  I didn't know that many people were that miserable.  No, I don't live in a cave; I know the divorce rate is around 50%.  But that also means that about 50% of couples are staying together.   

  

My husband and I have been married for 34 years next month (we were mere children) and have two grown sons.  We have each had exactly one sexual partner in our lifetimes - each other.  No, it isn't always moonight and roses, but for the most part it's a good life, and usually it's a very good life.  Like most people, we've struggled through our share child rearing, career issues, financial isssues, aging parents, empty nest and serious health issues.  Most of our friends are couples who have been married for decades also, and who have struggled through the same or similar issues.  (Yes, we know people who have been married multiple times or bounce in and out of relationships, but for the most part our friends are stable, relatively happily married couples.)  Are we an anomoly?   

  

Wouldn't it be great to see a show profiling what goes right in relationships?  We see so many negative things, and I agree learning about them helps people, but maybe once in a while we should see a more hopeful message about marriage. 

 

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May 25, 2006, 8:15 pm PDT

05/16 The Divorce Experiment

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I watched this episode last night (I must have TIVO'd it).  I heard Dr. Phil say that he gets "thousands" of letters about how miserable women are in relationships like this.  Thousands?  Am I just naive?  I didn't know that many people were that miserable.  No, I don't live in a cave; I know the divorce rate is around 50%.  But that also means that about 50% of couples are staying together.   

  

My husband and I have been married for 34 years next month (we were mere children) and have two grown sons.  We have each had exactly one sexual partner in our lifetimes - each other.  No, it isn't always moonight and roses, but for the most part it's a good life, and usually it's a very good life.  Like most people, we've struggled through our share child rearing, career issues, financial isssues, aging parents, empty nest and serious health issues.  Most of our friends are couples who have been married for decades also, and who have struggled through the same or similar issues.  (Yes, we know people who have been married multiple times or bounce in and out of relationships, but for the most part our friends are stable, relatively happily married couples.)  Are we an anomoly?   

  

Wouldn't it be great to see a show profiling what goes right in relationships?  We see so many negative things, and I agree learning about them helps people, but maybe once in a while we should see a more hopeful message about marriage. 

That actually would be interesting.

To see people who have had marriages that are successful, maybe show one couple that has been married 10 years, one that has been married 15-20 and one of those couples that has been together 35+ years...

Have them talk about the ups and downs, what they regret or what they would do better, and what their best advice is.

I think that would be interesting.

Good idea hon!
 
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May 31, 2006, 3:25 pm PDT

Trying to break out!!

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 Wow, I really never thought of it that way, but you are right.  So how do you stop that behavior and get out of that kind of relationship? 

  

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Klynne38 

David, 

  

In regards to your therory, how do you stop that behavior!  How do you walk away from someone that you know you shouldn't be with.  Its been 18 years for me and its 18 years too long.  I know how I feel but I keep getting sucked back into the relationship. 

  

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May 31, 2006, 3:33 pm PDT

Its not that easy

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Leave him.  Easy for me to say---I am in the same type of spot and feel too much guilt to go---my husband was not physically abusive, but very manipulative and has threatend---basically since I met him---to kill himself if I left.  In so many ways he has been a good husband/father---as far as I recall, there never was a "spark" there, and I tried to tell him that from the start----part of me wanted to believe it would work out, another part rationalized that all couples end up at this point---neither of us had good examples for marriage.  I think we would make great friends, but I am no longer sure what will happen if I do leave---he has always sworn he would never hurt me or the kids (3), (16 years together) but he also swore he would kill himself and all kinds of other crap----our counselor basically thought he would stalk me if we did separate and so far, she seems to be right.  

   

Best wishes....  

   

Catherine  

camoorejd@yahoo.com  

Hi Catherine, 

  

Sorry to hear that you are in the same situation.  Im back at home now but I really do not want to be there.  I have ventured out with someone else, I know that is probably wrong but I just wanted to know if it was just me. If I was broken or if its really the relationship.  I can't tell you why I can't leave him.  I made an appointment to go to counceling, hoping that will help me.  my 17 year old daughter will not come back home.  She is leaving with my neice.  That breaks my heart.  To think what I have done to her by staying in this relationship.  He says that I caused him to hit me, that I do the things that make him mad. I don't know maybe I do. I have been trying to hang onto my self for so long its getting hard.  I am in the process of getting a new position at work with a lot more money maybe that will help.  I just know that I feel nothing when it comes to him and that makes for a very lonely life. 

  

Kimberly 

kpemberton@essilorusa.com 

 
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June 4, 2006, 6:49 am PDT

Thanks for this Dr Phil episode

I loved this show with the husband getting a taste of his own nasty medicine. Cracked me up. I am separated now and waiting on the divorce finalization -- in July. I heard from my soon-to-be-ex-husband that he had to pay close to $400 for a cleaning crew to come in and clean the house because the one Saturday he did it, it took him 6 HOURS! LOL The cleaning crew of 4 women took 4 hours to clean that place - and wow it was clean as I saw it. That's when I gently reminded him of how I was exhausted at night since I worked all day and did a little cleaning each night after work so as not to have a whole Saturday swallowed up with it. I also said to him how that $400 was just for cleaning the house, no food shopping, no dry cleaning drop off & pick up, no pet care, bill paying, child care, and cooking meals. Hmmm, Ka-Ching! I just heard the value of me as wife go up! lol Any way Ioved this episode so much I even talked about it on the podcast I do for the NJ Ghost Hunters Society called "The Deadline". So Dr. Phil if you read these postings, you can tune in to our show online at Podcast Alley or right from our site at http://www.njghs.net and to save you time, scroll into the show to about 37 minutes that's when I talk about you and the show. thanks again!
 
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June 5, 2006, 10:15 am PDT

Amy?

Amy, I sure would like to hear from you.  Will you please post how you are doing?  If not I understand.  I hope you are doing well. 

***Rebecca*** 

Good luck! 

 
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June 6, 2006, 7:20 am PDT

Here I am

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Amy, I sure would like to hear from you.  Will you please post how you are doing?  If not I understand.  I hope you are doing well. 

***Rebecca*** 

Good luck! 

Hi Rebecca, I can only say that I am doing well, and that I am certainly standing my ground.  (firmly)  It has not been easy, as you know, he is very quick to respond and is easily aggitated.  In a word Aggressive.  We moved out of our home in Florida like last month.  I just want to clarify why I was not working outside of the home when we went to Dr. Phil.... It was because Greg wanted to get the house ready to put it up for sale.  We both decided to work on the house in January, I actually was the one who started to work on the house in January.  Greg got fired from his job in the middle of January.  So, not only was I not working but neither was he.  He did not inform the audience of that because then it would make HIM look bad.  In actuality he was out of work for about four months.  We lived off of our savings and tax return.  But yet all the while that he and I were working on the house he was on my case over everything I did in or outside of the home.  I understand that Dr.Phil is right when he said you teach people how to treat you.  I was only trying to please Greg in the beginning, because I had a failed marriage the first time around.   Greg is very difficult to please.  He is like a bottomless pit.  You can never fill it up.  It was about four years ago that I recognized that things were really off.   You see he did not behave that way when we were dating, or getting to know one another.   His change in his behavior, being controlling, came on gradually.  Do you honestly think I would have married someone so anal or demanding?  I didn't think so.   Yes there are qualities that I find wonderful about my husband.  He is hard working, he is careful with money, he is commited to our family and to me, he desires better in life.  However, the way you treat your spouse is detrimental to the marriage as a  whole.  I do my job as a wife and a mother.  He just doesn't know how to appreciate anything I do.  He looks for things to complain about daily, and it starts from the time he wakes up until the time he goes to sleep at night.  Misery loves company.   Right now we are waiting for our home to sell.  We are working.   But in the mean time I am reading Dr.Phils' book and I am half way through it.  I am currently working on my partners profile.  He on the other hand is not reading the book.  We have our first counseling on the seventh of this month.  I am anticipating this counseling session.  Greg blames me for things that has nothing to do with me.  It is very hard for me to not let his behavior affect me negatively when he is just that ---Negative.  It was my daughter's choice to go to my Mom and Dads'.  I gave her the option as I knew I didn't want to put her through it any more.  I had given her the option to go to her biological fathers home in MI but she did not want to go there as his lifestyle isn't what she is used to, not to mention the area where he lives is not all that great or safe.  She was happy at my Mom and Dads' and when I seen her in April she radiated confidence.   I believe marriage does take a lot of work.  I don't think marriage should be one sided.   I believe it is a partnership.  We had taken the time to discuss everything before we got married and covered all basis.  But like I said he evolved into what he now is because he lacked a willing spirit to work at the marriage with me.   He has a chip on his shoulder and believes he deserves everything handed to him and done for him, but seriously it won't work with me any longer.  I am standing my ground and he keeps telling me to "get over it".  I am not getting over anything, he needs to treat me better.  That is the bottom line.   Feel free to comment.
 
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June 6, 2006, 10:36 am PDT

Yeah Amy!

Amy,  

     thank you for filling me in.  It sounds like Greg has not started to do the work he is supposed to do.  You can only do your part and if he does not do his part soon, you may have to leave him.  I know it is scary to think about starting over, but it is the best thing I ever did.  I moved 3,000 miles away from my ex.  I'm living my dream now and so can you!  I told Greg over and over that I pity my ex, and that if he does not do the work, he will lose you and you will be fine with out him.  He really needs to step up to the plate and be a real a man.  I had a little hope for him, but it's fading.    

     Amy, please keep standing your ground because your little girls need a strong roll model and they need their mommy.   There are so many good men out there who can be more than just a provider and hard worker.  It was a pleasure to meet you, and I hope Dr. Phil does a follow up show on you because people want to know what has happened.   What people don't realize is how strong you can be in this, so keep growing as a woman and become stronger and stronger.  If the time comes were you have to leave, then you will have the strength to do what ever it takes.  Once you get to that point don't look back and you will be fine.  I think about you every day and my heart is with you.  Remember you can only control what you do.  Take care of you first!   Again, thank you for taking the time to write. 

  

***Rebecca***A.K.A. Spitfire 

  

P.S.  Greg, if you are reading this, GET OFF OF YOUR ASS AND BE A REAL MAN!!!!  YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE THE BEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO YOU AND YOU WILL BE A MISERABLE LITTLE MAN FOREVER! 

 

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June 6, 2006, 10:27 pm PDT

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Amy,  

     thank you for filling me in.  It sounds like Greg has not started to do the work he is supposed to do.  You can only do your part and if he does not do his part soon, you may have to leave him.  I know it is scary to think about starting over, but it is the best thing I ever did.  I moved 3,000 miles away from my ex.  I'm living my dream now and so can you!  I told Greg over and over that I pity my ex, and that if he does not do the work, he will lose you and you will be fine with out him.  He really needs to step up to the plate and be a real a man.  I had a little hope for him, but it's fading.    

     Amy, please keep standing your ground because your little girls need a strong roll model and they need their mommy.   There are so many good men out there who can be more than just a provider and hard worker.  It was a pleasure to meet you, and I hope Dr. Phil does a follow up show on you because people want to know what has happened.   What people don't realize is how strong you can be in this, so keep growing as a woman and become stronger and stronger.  If the time comes were you have to leave, then you will have the strength to do what ever it takes.  Once you get to that point don't look back and you will be fine.  I think about you every day and my heart is with you.  Remember you can only control what you do.  Take care of you first!   Again, thank you for taking the time to write. 

  

***Rebecca***A.K.A. Spitfire 

  

P.S.  Greg, if you are reading this, GET OFF OF YOUR ASS AND BE A REAL MAN!!!!  YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE THE BEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO YOU AND YOU WILL BE A MISERABLE LITTLE MAN FOREVER! 

Amen Rebecca...Greg has the gift of the world most patient woman. Seriously....he's gotten more chances from her than anyone I know would give him.
 
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June 7, 2006, 8:50 am PDT

Purplepain

Purpepain, 

  

I relay have enjoyed your post.  I wish you a good day and much happiness.   

  

***Rebecca*** 

 
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