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Topic : 05/18 Alex Turns 18

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Created on : Friday, May 12, 2006, 10:10:06 am
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Whenever Dr. Phil walks down the street, people ask: “What’s going on with Marty, Erin, Alex and Katherine?” This divided family first came on the show when their 15-year-old daughter, Alex, was pregnant and her condition was ripping their lives apart. Alex has accomplished a lot in three years. Get an update on her son, Nathan. Plus, Alex’s younger sister, Katherine, felt anger and resentment about the pregnancy and the constant chaos in her parents’ marriage. Find out how she’s been coping, and hear the burning question Marty has for Dr. Phil. Then, see the amazing surprises in store for this family! And, Dr. Phil follows up with another unforgettable guest, April. She was the anorexic bride, whose husband ended their marriage over the phone. How is she adjusting to life as a single woman? Talk about the show here.

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May 18, 2006, 4:55 pm PDT

I guess she's doing fine

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The previews for this  Dr. Phil Family update makes it seem as if Alex is still the ungrateful, know-it-all, do what she wants brat that she was three years ago.  I will be shocked if Alex is really the one raising Nathan. I don't believe Alex has grown up or learned anything "worthwhile" from what she has done. And if learning how not to get pregnant again is the best she can do instead of learning self control, then she really hasn't learned much.

I guess we'll see when the show airs. Maybe I'll be eating my words.

I only got to see part of the show today, but from what I saw, she's doing fine.  In fact, for someone who got pregnant at 15, she's doing great.  It looks like she'll go to college, get a degree, get the job of her dreams and save her money and buy a house.  

   

Now don't get me wrong, I'm happy for her, but for someone who didn't do it "right" she's getting along pretty well.    

   

Now take someone like me - I graduated high school with pretty good grades, but I didn't get to go to college (I couldn't afford it - back then they didn't hand out scholarships to just about everyone like they do today).  I've worked since I was 13.  I got married and 7 years later at the age of 28 got pregnant for the first time in my life.  Then after 20 years of marriage (with financial problems the entire time), I got divorced, and now at the age of 44 (45 in one month!), I am struggling on my own trying to raise a 16 year old daughter - who has managed to get this far without being sexually active and getting pregnant - I guess I'm doing something right.   

   

I would love to own my own home one day, but I don't see that happening.  How do people afford houses today?  I don't understand it.  And how does someone like me, living paycheck to paycheck, do it?  I'm sure the girl "who did it all wrong" will own a house before I do.  

 
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May 18, 2006, 4:58 pm PDT

Rewards

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I just watched the Dr. Phil Family update. I must say that I am a little dissappointed in the rewards given to these girls.  I watched this family when this first aired and really felt bad for their situation.  But look around.  They have a 2 parent family, an obviously nice place to live with horses, barns, etc.  We farm and work very hard for what little we have. We have 6 kids from 18 years to 7 years old. They all work very hard and we can do so little for them.  None of them are single parents, or involved with drugs and alcohol.  We watched some of this show and were shocked that this 18 year old girl gets a new truck and the other gets a custom made saddle.  FOR WHAT!!  Being a good mom?  How do I justify this to my hard working kids.  Now this 18 year old single mom, whom I assume still lives at home drives a brand new truck and my husband & I can barely keep our old klunkers going.  And gee, all we have done is try to raise 6 kids, stay married and be good role models for our kids, don't drink and sleep around either.  Not to mention trying to stay afloat with $2.80 diesel for our old tractors.  Sorry, I just don't get it. 

I see those gifts as thank yous for opening up their lives to millions of people. What I don`t get, is why somebody on a farmers income would choose to have 6 children. Is it for the free labor? If you write to Dr Phil, maybe he`ll send you a gift. Hopefully some form of birth control.
 

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May 18, 2006, 4:58 pm PDT

Erin?

I was happy to see the Dr. Phil family doing so well.  Through the whole program, though, I kept wondering where is Erin?  Something is up there.  If she was just home "holding down the fort," they would have had her on the program via satellite or whatever they do when someone is not able to come.  Something is definitely up there.  Even in the current photos, you only saw her in the background.  
 

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May 18, 2006, 5:04 pm PDT

Hello Momisme2

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Its good to see you too!  :D  Hope you have been well! 

  

I think alot of people feel that children should be given equal gifts.  While I agree with that in theory, I have yet to see this ever work out the way intended.  There seems to always come a time when one child is in need of something more expensive then the other.  As long as it evens out in the end, and as long as your love is forever true and fair(which I cant imagine it not being when it comes to my children) then I feel it is fine to sometimes give one a more expensive thing then the other.   

  

But... just in case some people are still a tad miffed... I remember when the doc fixed up Kats room for her and didnt give Alex anything special.  I believe he gifted Nathan a little something that time(cant quite remember) but im pretty sure Kat received a whole new bedroom but Alex didnt receive anything.  Maybe that makes everyone feel a bit better?   

  

So good to see you again!  HUGS 

Good to "read" you again.  Yes, Dr. Phil gave Katherine a bedroom but he also had given Alex a really nice crib that she had wanted.  I think you are right, though, things even out in the end.  Everyone was happy in the end so let's get on with it. 

  

This family has really come a long way.... some people are only seeing negatives but I choose to believe that everything is going well.  People should remember that Katherine has ALWAYS been completely honest (even when it got her retribution from her dad).  She said on the show that her parents were getting along very well, going on date nights, etc. so who are we not to believe her now.  As you said in an earlier post, I think Erin might just be tired of the TV appearances and what she has had to deal with because of them... also, in the video we see that they have at least one baby horse... someone has to be around to take care of him, right? 

  

  

 
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May 18, 2006, 5:13 pm PDT

05/18 Alex Turns 18

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I see those gifts as thank yous for opening up their lives to millions of people. What I dont get, is why somebody on a farmers income would choose to have 6 children. Is it for the free labor? If you write to Dr Phil, maybe hell send you a gift. Hopefully some form of birth control.
Just because they have 6 kids, does not mean they are destitute and cannot afford to raise their kids. Being rich is not everything. She did not say they could not provide for the children's needs. She just said they cannot give them everything.

At least her children  are being taught to work for what they have. Better than having things handed to you, IMO.

And do not get me wrong. I am glad the girl is doing better.  Her child is a cutie bug. But I can see the other poster's point of view as well.
 
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May 18, 2006, 5:18 pm PDT

You People Need to CHILL OUT.

You all have NO IDEA the amount of care and consideration, research, and WORK goes into making these shows. For each guest the show generates 50-100 pages of background information, and seeing as these people have appeared several times, I'm sure for them its even more than that.   

   

Dr. Phil is an extremely smart, generous, respected man. He's completely aware of what he's doing. It is no big deal that Alex got a truck and Katherine a saddle. It's what they are both into. Also, I know it wasn't the best decision but a difficult one none the less... did Katherine have to give up her childhood, go through a pregnancy, give birth at 16, and proceed to keep and raise that child for the last 3 years? I don' t think so. She's been able to be out doing regular teenage things, experiencing high school, being young. And THAT is priceless. Alex can never have that back- instead, she has chosen to live with the responsibilities she's created by the choices shes made, and move on with her life in the best possible way she can. She deserves all the help she can get and the truck was an amazing gift. Katherine got to learn from Alex's mistakes firsthand and knows the value of her childhood- and since she's into horses and riding and that is her goal for the future, Dr. Phil found it appropriate to aid in that career choice.   

   

Don't judge Dr. Phil for being kind.   

 
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May 18, 2006, 5:27 pm PDT

05/18 Alex Turns 18

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You have to be joking Dr. Phil! Let me get this straight: Alex gets pregnant at 15 manages to "raise" her son to the age of 2 1/2 while  living with her parents and them flipin the bill and she gets a brand new truck. Well guess what......I was 17 years old when I had my son. I was also 17 when I got married and moved out. My husband and I will celebrate our 11 year wedding anniversary this October. We have NEVER moved back in with our parents and have relied very little on them for help. We bought our first home 2 years ago (ages 26 & 28). WE are both in college, have full time jobs and still have time to spend with each other and our 10 almost 11 year old son. My husband is driving a 1995 Lincoln because the 1991 Ford Escort he was driving puked on us after his 1991 beretta that he had puked. Lets see if princess Alex can go the long hall without her parents!!!! 

Where my brand new car Dr. Phil ?!?!?!?!?!!? 

 You have the satisfaction of knowing you did it yourself. You were responsible for your actions and took care of business.

I think you guys deserve the new truck.


 
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May 18, 2006, 5:32 pm PDT

05/18 Alex Turns 18

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You all have NO IDEA the amount of care and consideration, research, and WORK goes into making these shows. For each guest the show generates 50-100 pages of background information, and seeing as these people have appeared several times, I'm sure for them its even more than that.   

   

Dr. Phil is an extremely smart, generous, respected man. He's completely aware of what he's doing. It is no big deal that Alex got a truck and Katherine a saddle. It's what they are both into. Also, I know it wasn't the best decision but a difficult one none the less... did Katherine have to give up her childhood, go through a pregnancy, give birth at 16, and proceed to keep and raise that child for the last 3 years? I don' t think so. She's been able to be out doing regular teenage things, experiencing high school, being young. And THAT is priceless. Alex can never have that back- instead, she has chosen to live with the responsibilities she's created by the choices shes made, and move on with her life in the best possible way she can. She deserves all the help she can get and the truck was an amazing gift. Katherine got to learn from Alex's mistakes firsthand and knows the value of her childhood- and since she's into horses and riding and that is her goal for the future, Dr. Phil found it appropriate to aid in that career choice.   

   

Don't judge Dr. Phil for being kind.   


How exactly has Alex "raised" Nathan? Her parents paid for it all, I am willing to bet. I also bet they babysit quite a lot. It is not the same as being older, married and actually doing the raising.

Do not get me wrong, I am glad that Alex seems to be doing well now. But,  some here act like Alex was forced to have sex, get pregnant and keep the child. She could have given him up for adoption.  She did not have to give up her "childhood". She chose to.

I DO feel Katherine deserves a lot more for putting up with what she did.  But, I will say the saddle was gorgeous.
 
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May 18, 2006, 5:45 pm PDT

05/18 Alex Turns 18

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I agree.  The message to the youngest is the same message our society has recently  been giving to all young girls: 

  

Get pregnant while you're young and single and we will reward you!  We will help you with all your medical expenses.  We  will send you to a special high school with other single mothers so that you don't have to feel embarrassed and while you're in class your baby will be cared for for free by lots of nice older ladies. If you want to go college we will pay for that too and we'll pay for all the daycare the baby needs while you go. 

  

The girls who don't get pregnant, won't have a standing ovation when they graduate.  No one will make a fuss or act like they accomplished anything out of the ordinary.  The young women who marry before starting a family won't get their medical expenses paid for and they will have to pay for all their baby's daycare from their minimum wage earnings.  No college for them, too expensive. 

  

Every Mother's Day they'll hear  people talk about how wonderful single mothers are and the implication will be that married mothers don't work  as hard or make as many sacrifices for their children. 

  

No wonder the illegitimacy rate has risen to almost 50% in America.  There's a really big payoff for the un-wed mothers both in public admiration and cold hard-cash. 

 I have to agree with you. Really. I get tired of hearing, "But I am a single mom." As if that entitles one to more than the average person.

I am about to go back to college 20 years after the first time I went. ( I did not finish) I am nearly 39, I have 3 kids and have been married for 15 yrs. I have already been told I will have to take mainly loans. And no, we do not make much money, believe me. The financial aid lady told me that single moms get the big grants, etc. I am glad that they can get the chance to get educated. But, I still think it is a bit unfair.

I am going to get my loans and finsish.
 

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May 18, 2006, 5:49 pm PDT

05/18 Alex Turns 18

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How exactly has Alex "raised" Nathan? Her parents paid for it all, I am willing to bet. I also bet they babysit quite a lot. It is not the same as being older, married and actually doing the raising.

Do not get me wrong, I am glad that Alex seems to be doing well now. But,  some here act like Alex was forced to have sex, get pregnant and keep the child. She could have given him up for adoption.  She did not have to give up her "childhood". She chose to.

I DO feel Katherine deserves a lot more for putting up with what she did.  But, I will say the saddle was gorgeous.
What exactly did you want her to do?

Get an abortion?
Give the kid up for adoption?
Forget her own life only to get more and more behind on things which would have affected the baby even MORE?

A family works together to get things done as best they can. They did what they could with the situation they had?

Exactly how should they have handled it?

You have got to stop getting hung up on the fact that she got pregnant...THAT PART IS OVER....THIS IS NOW!
 
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