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Topic : *A Dr. Phil Prime Time Special: Escaping Danger

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Created on : Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 01:34:24 pm
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The statistics are staggering. One in three women will become the victim of domestic violence. She could be your next door neighbor, your friend, your coworker.  To the outside world their lives seem normal but behind closed doors they live a nightmare full of intimidation and violence. For one woman, years of violence have brought her to a point of no return. Throughout her marriage, Kerry suffered physical and emotional torture at the hands of her husband. Like many women, she lived in fear, isolated from any help or support, until now.  In this important Dr. Phil Prime Time Special, Kerry will attempt to escape the abuse. She has only a narrow window in time to make her move.  And what she does in those few hours could be the difference between life and death. Kerry's dramatic story is an inspiration for the hundreds of thousands of women who wake terrified in their own homes. Airs at 8 p.m. (ET/PT) only on CBS.

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May 22, 2006, 10:45 am PDT

*A Dr. Phil Prime Time Special: Escaping Danger

My own abuser has been dead for over 2 years now....of an accidental drug overdose. A choice he made, just like the choice he made to abuse.  

You can all jump on me when I say this, but I'm going to write it down and make it official....I'm not sorry he's not here anymore. I don't miss him. I don't grieve his death. The abuse has finally ended once and for all. It sure didn't end by ending the relationship......I was still stalked, even though I had a protective order. I lived in a rural area, and when he'd sit on the road and look through the trees with binoculars there was nothing the sheriff could do, b/c he was on "public" property. Sometimes there is real protection for women and children, and sometimes there isn't. It's the luck of the draw..... 

 

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May 22, 2006, 10:48 am PDT

Dr. Phil's Special On Abusive men

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  I want to Thank You for bringing this to national TV. I was thrilled to see someone confront this man.  I was abused for 61/2 yrs. I was beaten because he was confronted by a gay man in the Bar he was in! He played the drums & he didn't want me to go to practice with him, so he rammed the steel peg on the front of the drum, through my foot. He would throw the kitchen table on my back & pin me between the wall & the table & then pull me up by my hair? He demanded his supper be on the table & hot when he walked in the door, whenever he might show-up. Needless to say, I couldn't keep it good or hot, for hours. He would  go out & come home drunk & beat me till no one could recognize me, no even my best friend, I would be bloody from top to bottom! He was 6'4" 245 lbs. & I was 5'6" 119lbs., not much of a match for defending myself. The END came as he was leaving a BBQ with friends & he announced he was going to the Bar to see his girl friend? I started to walk home with both my little girls & he said I better NOT!  I asked why & he said" Because I will run over you all & kill you!"  I filed for Divorce ! He stalked me for years after that. It left me feeling like I could not possibly be a good person & sure wasn't worthy of anyone loving me. The pitiful part is that he can not admit the truth to my daughters, they think I have lied to them all these years. He told them " We were young then. I might have slapped her once or twice." They just can't understand my hatred for this man!  That part of my life, haunts me to this day! "Thank heavens for the new laws & the many places for women to go! I did not have any of that. I keep it hdden away, until someone mentions his name & it all come flowing back. The fear,the hurt & wondering why.  My daughter keeps dropping his name around me & it opens that door & I wish I could just get it out of my mind.  Again, I want to Thank You! No one has ever confronted Don Ross on his actions, I guess they are all afraid of him. God Bless you!    

 

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May 22, 2006, 10:53 am PDT

Agree he is a toad!

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I went through an abusive marriage and finally got out. The idea that this guy can be rehabilitated is ludicrous.  They know everything to say and do to get off of the hot seat.  Too bad Dr. Phil didnt take a swing at him to let him see how it feels.  I was disgusted watching this toad.  Dr. Phil, next time let's see what is being done to help the victim and what other victims can do to help themselves more than an interview with these slime balls.  It was a waste of prime time air to even interview him.  

I agree with you, he is a TOAD!  It made me want to knock him in the head & see how it feels! I do appreciaete Dr. Phil bringing this to National TV.
 
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May 22, 2006, 12:23 pm PDT

Transcript?

 Does anyone know how I can get a transcript to this particular special: Escaping Danger?

Thanx in advance!!!
GOD BLESS!!!
 
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May 22, 2006, 1:17 pm PDT

Stalking solutions re: Escaping Danger

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My own abuser has been dead for over 2 years now....of an accidental drug overdose. A choice he made, just like the choice he made to abuse.  

You can all jump on me when I say this, but I'm going to write it down and make it official....I'm not sorry he's not here anymore. I don't miss him. I don't grieve his death. The abuse has finally ended once and for all. It sure didn't end by ending the relationship......I was still stalked, even though I had a protective order. I lived in a rural area, and when he'd sit on the road and look through the trees with binoculars there was nothing the sheriff could do, b/c he was on "public" property. Sometimes there is real protection for women and children, and sometimes there isn't. It's the luck of the draw..... 

Even if your stalker is observing you from a public area, this should not prevent you from reporting it to the police.  Most areas are covered by more than one police agency, and if the first one you talk to doesn't offer help, call one of the others. 

  

While they may have nothing to arrest the subject for at the time of your report, you are getting the problem on record, and you are alerting police to be a little more observant when they go by your place.  A concerned officer could approach the subject who is staliking you, if the officer observes the stalker in the act.  Then, the officer will probably request ID and make the subject aware that police know he or she is watching you.  Sometimes, that alone can be a deterrent.  What you should never do is to provoke a confrontation with a stalker or approach the stalker yourself. 

  

Sometimes a very large brother, a muscular friend or neighbor can accomplish what the police are not able to do under the constraints of the law.   

  

Certain courts will also offer orders of protection, but this varies by state and municipality.  You could call Family Court. or the criminal Court for your city to see what can be done in your particular circumstances.  The penalties for approaching your residence after the order is issued could be far greater.  It doesn' t hurt to call police and at least talk over your options in your hometown.   They won't force you to arrest anyone, and it is always better if police know there is a possible problem brewing.  They will thank you for callling, if they are doing their jobs as they should. 

 
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May 22, 2006, 1:54 pm PDT

dont wait for the courts

i wish i could talk to this lady. a ppo will not stop him i had one on my ex-husbund and he broke in to my house in the middle of the night and all most killed me even with a ppo on him i have scars and i have some perment damage.  i really feal fro her because he will get her if he wants to my ex ended up with a fenoly of intent to do great bodily harm less the murder. i hope someone really watchs her and do not trust him for one second
 
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May 22, 2006, 1:55 pm PDT

Escaping Danger- Basic truths about abuse

I'm a former victim advocate/hotline counselor, who worked with victims of abuse for a number of years.  I am sorry to say I missed all but two minutes of this special.   

  

In my experience, these are facts: 

1.  Once violence/abuse start, they will continue to get more severe in nature, unless some major crisis forces the abuser to change his or her ways. 

  

2.  Women are abusers too - - not just men. 

  

3.  If somebody hits you once, it MIGHT be an accident; but if that person hits you again, THEY DON'T LIKE YOU.  Leave, as soon as you can safely do so. 

  

4.  Violence is most severe when a victim attempts to leave.  If you have decided to leave, wait until you can safely enter the home to get your things, preferably with a police officer to protect you.  You can have an officer go with you even if you don't press charges.  Most jurisdictions will only let you remove what is CLEARLY yours, such as your prescriptions, your eye glasses, your clothes - -NOT furniture, electronics, and so forth.  For those, you will be able to seek help though the local Court.  In most local courts you won't need a lawyer, just pay a small fee to have the judge divide your belongings, or perhaps refer you to a mediation service that will.  Be advised that whatever decision they come to may limit your rights if you later seek divorce.  Many lawyers will talk to you and give you some advice without a fee first.  It doesn't hurt to try to get one to help you. 

  

5.  Do you really love the person who is hurting you, or is it that you have fallen in love with a certain "type" or "Ideal" of person?  Or, could you actually feel sorry for the person and think you can help or "fix" him or her.  There is a fine love between love and what I call "nurturing run amok."  Feeling sorry for someone is never a good reason to love them.  You shouild love someone because they make you feel good about yourself, they take good care of you, and you admire them greatly.  Those are healthy reasons for love. 

  

6.  If the abuser won't seek help, the victim can often find effective ways to deal with abusive people thorugh counseling.  Do not seek such counseling through church groups, whose main agenda may be to follow a very paternalistic dogma.  Instead, seek a licensed clinical counselor.  Call your local Mental Health county office if you cannot afford to pay for counseling, and they will refer you.  You may also seek help through your local or state domestic violence hotline.  You do not have to be married to the abuser. 

  

7. Some states have Family Courts, which are non-criminal and no arrest or punishment will result from seeking help there.  Usually, their court proceedings are private and not published in newspapers.  Criminal courts are another matter completely.  A family court can order an abuser to stay away or to seek help from mental health professionals.  It is easy to call and see if they can help you.  It doesn't hurt to ask. 

  

8.  If you are dating someone, and they put you down or shove you around LEAVE NOW.  It will only get worse if you marry them or become pregnant by them.   

  

9.  When I was still counseling victims, there was a statistic that 61% of all women seeking treatment for violence in our state were abused in their own homes.  At that time, women were literally safer on the streets than in their own homes.  I hope that statistic has improved. 

  

10.  If he says he didn't MEAN to hit you, he's wrong.  He meant it.  It will happen again, and next time it will be worse. 

  

11.  There may be a period of good behavior after a violent episode, which might lull you into thinking the abuser has changed, but trust me he hasn't.  You still are not safe.  The next attack could appear without the usual verbal abuse buildup first.  Get out now, and seek help. 

  

12.  If you are not sure whether you want to leave yet, at least leave an "escape kit" with a friend or other relative.  It should contain you driver's license or a copy of that, your birth certificate/passport or other legal ID, you vision prescription, your medications/dosages, in effect anything you need to spend a night or two away from home.  Later on, a police officer can go to the house with you to pick up other things, or you can go to Court to get them.  If possible, never go to stay anywhere alone.  Never take up residence with a male friend, which could be construed as infidelity.  Do not tell the abusesive person where you are staying, because it will put others at risk.  If violence has been severe, or has involved the threat of weapons, never stay with family or friends.  Instead, go to a secure shelter, where you will be safe.    

  

13. If you are dating someone, and they are jealous of any time you spend with family or friends - - OR if they try to keep you away from your family or friends, RUN FAST and get away from them.  It is one of the first danger signs. 

  

14.  If you are dating someone who criticizes your looks or your actions, this is also inappropriate and can be a danger sign.  People who love us should build us up, not tear us down.  They should love us and want what is best for us. 

  

15.  If you have already been a victim, seek help.  It is out there and it works.  Don't stay in a bad situation. 

  

16.  Every victim I ever helped later said said she or he was surprised to find someone else who really loved them and took care of them after being abused by someone else.  They never thought they would ever find love again from someone they could love in return.  No wonder so many people stay in danger and in bad situations.  I have counseled lovely people, whose mates made them think they were uttlerly ugly, fat or unloveable - - none of which was true!  After help, many things are possible. 

  

17.  If you date displays a nasty temper, look out.  It could later be directed at you, after the newness of your relationship wears off.  If it is two nights before the wedding, cancel the wedding.  Your family will have a great party while everyone is already in town, and they will be glad you didn't marry a spouse "beater." 

 

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May 22, 2006, 3:06 pm PDT

HELP!!!!!!

Does anyone know if this is going to air again?!?!?!?!  I have been searching everywhere I can to see if it is and cannot find it anywhere!  I am in the Vancouver, Canada area and tried to tape it while I was at work and the local station didn't air it like it was supposed to!  I really wanted to see this!  Thanks in advance!  

 
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May 22, 2006, 4:04 pm PDT

Finding help IS hard

  

I was like a lot of others un-able to see the show, how ever I have just finished reading it all here.  

  

I found it rather interesting that at the end of this transcript it says that we can get help, that there is more then 5000 shelters for us to get help.  

  

I know for  a fact that here in Ontario Canada the shelter I have contacted several times is always full there is a list of names a mile long. I tried again to get in  just today and there is 25 women waiting to have a bed in a shelter.   

This is why we end up going back to the home. The help is too hard to find when we are this distressed.  

We have to find ways to get more funding for shelters.  

I too have slept in my car several time just to feel safe and didn't mind it was better then all yelling and screeming.  

Regardless.........we NEED to do more for abused women........... 

       

 
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May 22, 2006, 5:29 pm PDT

domestic violence and child abuse

A friend of mine wrote a book about domestic violence and child abuse that she suffered in post war Germany, called My Life in Fear by Gertrude Kauffman. As a social worker placing children from abuse into adoption, I have heard these stories over and over of domestic violence leading to abuse of children as well as the mothers, and this book tells it like it is.  Your show highlighting this may help to increase awareness of domestic violence.  

 
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