Topic : 05/24 "Get My Groom to Grow Up!"

I'm from a big, Greek family. I understand all of what you are describing and please believe that none of it is unusual or mean spirited.  The one thing you should realize is that culturally, we are used to an extended family system where everyone lives all together and the whole family joins in parenting (btw-if you think this is smothering, wait until you have children!) 

The nice thing about our culture is that we are really THERE for each other.  No matter what one of my family members need, I'm going to do it and vice versa. I have had a chronic illness almost my whole marriage and my family has always pitched in with my husband to cope with my hospitalizations.   My husband understands my love for my family and he loves them too (it's been 28 years) but I understand his need to be a nuclear family and have privacy and control over our own lives. 

Our compromise: We moved 3 hours away from my parent's home but we always attend any gathering I care about.  Most of my sibs have moved away from our home town too :) 

When both your husband-to-be and his mother say that they believe that you are just in this for what you can get from Bill (and they both did to my absolute astonishment) you can have no other response but to end the engagement.  It is impossible to continue the relationship with any dignity. 

I think Bill is destined to cleave eternally with his "best friend" and you will be much happier without him. 

The reason to give them the stats is to add to their information about their plan.  Statistics give people an idea of their probability for success.  If a couple is in major conflict over something as important as intimacy and privacy in a marriage vs. the mommaboy's need to tell momma everything they don't have hope in hell of handling the blended family / 3 ex husband / mother-in-law interference issues. 

If you wanted to open a restaurant, wouldn't you thank a business adviser who told you that 90% of all restaurants started in your chosen locale have failed? 

I agree with a lot of this. I think Bill does love Angee, but Dr. Phil was right on to say that neither of them know how to be married. His relationship with his mother is just plain creepy. I disagreed with Dr. Phil that his mom was a victim in all of this who was being pulled in. That can't be true considering she actively participated in an e-mail exchange with Angee about issues that were absolutely none of her business.  

If the mother was simply a victim here, she would never have participated in that, she simply would have said "take your problems home son. Deal with your fiance. I don't even want to hear about it." It's not being unsupportive to tell your grown son to deal with his own issues. 

The man who wants to marry the 3 TIME divorcee WOMAN.   

RUN, RUN AWAY! this woman is a typical woman, a user. She will take you for 1/2 your assets then move on to the next sleazy man on the internet.   

Man to Man?   

Kick her to the curb, She is BAD NEWS. A loser in 3 Previous Marriages and she is 3 KIDS that are NOT yours!   

You want to support this? If you do then you are the dumbest man on the planet.   

Rachel 

I am wondering why would you choose someone like Tyler to be the father to your baby?  I'm guessing that before you had your baby, he was a lot of fun to party with.  Did you accept him then and now your time line says he should grow up?   

Alot of people think that just because a person has a child that they will change.  I think that is true in most cases but  I think you picked the wrong dad.  

I guess I am trying to figure out why Rachel is all of the sudden the victim in this when she knew what kind of person he was a long time ago.  Whenever your having sex with a man you better take a good long look at who the possible father of your child might be.   

The victim is the child.  I feel bad that he has been brought into this selfish irresponsible relationship.   

Rachel.  You have seen what a wonderful thing you have in your son.  Have 20/20 in viewing his father.  Your son deserve a real dad, not just someone that passes through when it's suites him   

Just watching this show made me wonder"where is dad though all of this".  It seems to me that tyler needs a older male mentor to set him straight.   

Pay for him forever?  Tyler better get busy soon if he believes he should be paying for his son forever!!  NOT!!  He'll be lucky to get a meal out of his good ol dad!  Probably another welfare case in the making.  Poor kid.  Not Tyler, The real kid.