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Topic : 05/24 "Get My Groom to Grow Up!"

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Created on : Friday, May 19, 2006, 10:14:02 am
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Do you feel like you're in a relationship with a man who's really a big baby? Angee says her fiancé, Bill, pouts, whines and stomps his feet whenever they get into an argument. He also calls "Mommy" five to 10 times a day and runs to her whenever there's a problem. Bill says he isn't a mama's boy, and that Angee just wants all of his attention for herself. Is Bill's mom meddling in their lives? And, why does Angee have her profile on a Web site? Are Angee and Bill grown up enough to tie the knot? Then, Rachel says it's time for her common–law husband, Tyler, to stop drinking and partying with his band mates, while she takes care of their baby and the bills. They've lived in his mother's basement for two years, and she says it's time Tyler gets a job so they can finally move out. Tyler says he enjoys being a kid, and when people tell him to grow up, it "harshes his mellow." Is Tyler's childish behavior affecting their 18-month-old son? What does Dr. Phil tell Rachel she must do? Share your thoughts here.

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May 24, 2006, 4:15 pm PDT

the antics....

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if you could just show people the outcome of people trying to overcome the long term affects of alachol and drug abuse and what the people go through thear 1st week in rehab words cant express what they go through, band dad might view his life style in a differnt light, hes heading for disaster, man ive been thear i know what im talking about, when i saw people withdrawing from alchol and herion it scared the holy crap out of me i got down on my knees and prayed god wouldnt let me end up like that, i was a heavy drinking pot smokin crack head and i can tell you the pain i caused not only my familey but my only child, thears no exacuse i can offer other than i didnt care at the time, party party party, all i thought of, well party band dad your not far from whear i was man go get help its never too late youll not only be saving your life but the lives of the people you love and care about, i only pray you care about your girl friend and child, if not do the wtight thing and set them free dont make them suffer, the child hasnt got a say so in this world wake up before you see what i saw, it relly wasnt a pretty sight, no human being should be in the shape i saw people in, it scared me when you told dr phil you could use a drink while you were on the show, man your sick  please go get help, you relly do need it
didnt you hear him, they thrive on their antics, i think you took his position on drinking a little too serious. notice dr.phil didnt send him to a rehab! thats not the issue here, he said that to be funny, for a reaction, and lets face it your on a drphil stage getting the third degree..... i think i might want a drink too!
 
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May 24, 2006, 4:20 pm PDT

Both should grow up

Angee craves attention like I crave sugar.  Not healthy for either of us.  She's cute but not drop-dead gorgeous.  Doesn't she realize by now that guys, in real life or on My Space, will say anything they think she wants to hear to get into her pants?  Didn't she watch Dr. Phil's specials on predators on the Internet?  She's exposing her 3 kids to possible danger from some psycho who'll flatter her just to get close to her kids.   She's immature, self-absorbed, and needs serious counseling before she marries for the 4th time.   Her self-esteem must be in the toilet.     

   

But as to the Momma's boy -- yep, he's one.  Run.  Don't marry him.  He won't change.    

   

My mother's 3rd marriage was to a Momma's boy.  He was a very nice man, but Mom and her Mother-In-Law fought constantly, putting him in the middle every day.   He never knew his dad and had no siblings.  His family was his mother and her sisters.  Nothing he did could please either my mother or his mother.  So, he escaped into the bottle.  That eventually ruined his health.  By the time his mother died, he had stopped drinking but the damage was done, and my mother was never happy with him.    

   

Mom's now looking at her future 4th husband -- another Momma's boy.  No one could warn her about the last one and she doesn't want to hear it about this one either.  This one is 62 and has never left his mother's side.  Mom is already making comments about how they can never do anything without "mother".   When she's miserable, she makes sure everyone around her suffers, too.  

   

So, to Angee -- forget Momma's boy.  Forget men for now.  Forget marriage for now.  Concentrate on stabilizing your kids' lives.  As the stepdaughter to 2 of my mother's husbands, it gets old quick trying to please another "new" family.   Pay as much attention to your kids as you do to trying to land another man.    

   

A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.  Take one out when you what a joy ride, but don't keep bringing them home until the kids are older and you've matured a bit.    

   

My 2 cents, for what that's worth today.    

 
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May 24, 2006, 4:20 pm PDT

dr phil your special aires here in 40 min i missed part 1

but  i wont miss part 2 maybe tyler needs to watch this so he can get a glimps of the futuer that awaits him if he dosent change now, tyler this could be you in years to come
 
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May 24, 2006, 4:20 pm PDT

also.....

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thats what i meant to say, sorry i called you angee hun, my bad. I MEANT THE ANTICS people!! the antics daddy!! anyhow, hang in there guys, tyler you have any real intention to make it work, you can you will, i have faith in that, and you can be a dad and do the right thing without compromising your identity. think f it as adding to or expanding your identity. and you should really hug your woman for sticking it out with you, it isnt easy to be a mom when you feel like youre doing it alone. my first child was from a former relationship, and i was alone there, and that guy liked to party too, but in a very different negative distructive way, and his son never got to know him, and now hes gone. so step up tyler, you can dooooooooooo it!! again good luck guys, with the fam-damn-ly, and the band!
okay now i feel lie i have to say this, or someone else is bound to jump my "butt" ummmm the career comment, please dont get me wrong anyone reading this, someday he may do something different than what he does now, however if the bills can be paid doing what you love, well i think theres a lot to be said for being happy and fulfilling your financial needs. thats all i am not saying going to school or having a career is bad. i just meant to say, its not the only life option....nothing is for everyone.
 
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May 24, 2006, 4:23 pm PDT

TYLER NEEDS TO GROW UP

THIS MESSAGE IS FOR TYLER; TYLER WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND WHO IS STANDING BESIDE YOU AND SUPPORTS WHAT YOU DO AND ALL YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS JUST GO GET A JOB,  TO HELP SUPPORT YOUR CHILD. IF YOU DIDN'T WANT THE RESPONIBLIITY FOR A CHILD, THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE KEPT THE HORSE IN, BUT SINCE THAT NOT THE CASE. TYLER GROW UP.
 
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May 24, 2006, 4:34 pm PDT

Run, Rachel -- straight to an attorney

Tyler is a loser.  Dump him.  Get an attorney and protect your rights and your child's rights.  Don't trust him to be around in 10 years to support you.  Get it on record at the court.  Have him obligated to pay child support.  Tyler is never going to grow up but one day when you're trying to pay your child's dental bill and he can't be bothered, you can take that court order, levy against his band equipment and possibly garnish any wages he has to pay your child's bills.     

   

Take a good hard look at Tyler.  Is that the role model you want for your child?  Do you want your child to be a teenage alcoholic or drug abuser?  Children emulate parents.  Tyler thinks there's nothing wrong with his behavior.   

   

A friend of mine almost lost her daughter to heroin.  Her first husband was a junkie.  He'd get clean for a few months, then go back to abusing drugs.  He, too, was a Momma's boy and Momma made every excuse in the world for him.  She knew he was using, yet she always bailed him out.  One day the daughter joined dad in a drinking/drug binge.  She became a full-blown alcoholic and druggie at age 11.  When the daughter hit 16, she trashed her mother's house and tried to kill her.  After the daughter was arrested and sitting in jail, the first husband felt so bad about turning his own daughter into a junkie, he killed himself.  Even in the end, it was all about him.     

   

On this show, Tyler made it clear -- it's all about Tyler -- little, baby, immature Tyler and what Tyler wants.  You don't need 2 babies in your life, one with a substance abuse problem to boot.   

   

Get thee to a lawyer ASAP.  Protect yourself and your child now!!     

   

Besides, you can do a lot better than Tyler.  Maybe he'll grow up, but odds are your baby will grow up before he will.  Good luck.   

 
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May 24, 2006, 4:34 pm PDT

05/24 "Get My Groom to Grow Up!"

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but  i wont miss part 2 maybe tyler needs to watch this so he can get a glimps of the futuer that awaits him if he dosent change now, tyler this could be you in years to come

i agree as well, besides my other post about punks vs lowlifes, i agree that more focus should have been placed on what tyler's life will be like if he doesn't change now...it isn't so cool to be a 50 year old alcoholic bachelor- let alone a 50 year old former punk band singer...or even worse- STILL SINGING in a punk band?! 

  

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May 24, 2006, 4:34 pm PDT

punks must be lowlifes?

as a person with tattoos and "funny" colored hair, i am disappointed to see a "punk" couple representing "dads that won't grow up".   

   

i understand that they happen to have that problem and what they look like should not matter- but is it really so hard to find a "normal" looking guy who does the same thing? maybe have had them both on? i feel like the message that was conveyed- more than the dispicable irresponsiblity of being a deadbeat dad- is that "punks" are bad people and lowlifes who like to party and won't be responsible.   

   

for example, when i was in high school, there were plenty of artist/ unconventional kids who were not bad kids, and didn't do anything wrong- or at the very least didn't do anything different than the other "normal" kids we went to school with...it was the "normal" kids that got away with murder, while the "weird" ones were singled out for making trouble...when often the real harm was being done by the average appearing individual....they are simply more disguised, blending into the sea of similar faces- not without fault.   

   

my husband an i are highly functional, intelligent members of society who- though don't look like our neighbors- are very much productive parts of our community. we have an exceptionally wonderful marriage, own a house and work very hard. we care about the planet, politics, and the state of the world, and we live our lives in our own way, with our own look...and it never ceases to amaze me the looks people give sometimes- when they see what we look like vs what we say and do. it is shocking to the average individual that i might hold the door for an elderly couple, thank someone for doing the same-or *gasp* even smile??! despite the frustration, i relish these moments, because i can only hope that those folks go home and tell their family how some nice girl with crazy hair and a nose ring held the door for them.  

   

   

   

   

 

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May 24, 2006, 4:36 pm PDT

You're the exception

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Dr Phil,  

  

You always tell people about the statistics of failed marriages, I guess as a way of discouraging them. I get so angry when you bring that up. You frequently refer to age statistics saying that people younger than 25 shouldn't marry or they have a 90% chance of having a failed marriage. Well, let me tell you, I got married weeks after my 18th birthday and have been married for 6 years and we are VERY happy. We have two gorgeous children and have made a beautiful life together.  

  

Please Doctor Phil, stick to the facts of each case, and stop offending us young, responsible, mature married people by convincing America our marriages are doomed to fail! 

Good job with staying married for 6 years.  My parents made it to 15.  I believe Dr Phil cites those stats not to discourage people but to warn them.  The reality is that the vast majority of young adults are more focused on trying to figure out their own lives and needs and so they are less likely to be able to make a relationship work.  Not pretty or flattering, but true.  It is hard to argue with numbers.
 
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May 24, 2006, 4:46 pm PDT

he's lucky to have her

tyler should be on his hands and knees that his lazy butt could actually get a real woman like he did, he should be begging her to marry him just for the fact that she put up with him this long.  she should run as fast as she can, if having a baby with this man didn't make him grow up i'm afraid nothing will no matter how old he is he'll always be a greedy selfish child. she should find a real man to take care of her and leave the child to his toys.
 
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