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Topic : 05/29 Parenting Dilemmas

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Created on : Thursday, May 25, 2006, 09:42:01 am
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Are you a parent whose household is spinning out of control? Cindi says her daughter, Kristina, used to be a fresh-faced all-American beauty, but now, with seven tattoos, she looks like a freak! Cindi says that if her daughter gets inked one more time, she’ll cut her off. Then, Nancy was heartbroken when she learned her 17-year-old daughter had been keeping a devastating secret. See this teen's message about how opening up saved her life. And, when Nancy Davis was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis 14 years ago, the doctor said her life was over. She knew she had to get better for her three young sons. See her heartwarming message for anyone dealing with an illness. Then, a mom struggles with 7-year-old triplets competing to be the best! Talk about the show here.

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June 1, 2006, 8:16 pm PDT

teenager Tattoos

look! The elder woman in the picture holding the worlds record  of tattoes is so "NOT IT!" It is so ugly and marked for life! I have a personal friend who is a physician of skin disease gives lectures to teens in southern Cal. high schools on how it really is unrepairable! What you think now is cool and awesome...is just like the kids that think smoking is cool and awesome! Until they grow up and have lung cancer, or black lung disease, all kinds of health hazards! You can't always change the past. So stop and start saving the big cash your gonna need to lazer off what you already did. Skin grows right along with you and tattooes grow and change form right along with you.
 
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June 1, 2006, 8:33 pm PDT

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I am a member of SIA, if the family won't back you up (like most don't if there is fear) you be the feared! You have friends and other functions to attend to over the holidays! Your step father doesn't have to be included! Trust me! Your job as these children's mommy is to pretect them from harm and manipulatures like him! You also owe it to yourself. I know you don't want to disturb family secrets and hurt anyone's feelings, RIGHT? So, ok, your too busy for visits until someone stands up with you! I will! You don't even know me, but, I know your thinking and your reactions, feelings, and fears! Are you going to let him continue to manipulate you and your kids and other family members? Does he actually have that kind of power? Or; have you given him that kind of priviledge? Do you not deserve that same kind of self righteousness? Do you value the parent of your kids enough to stand upright and teach them .....self-respect! Come-on! join an SIA (sexual Incest Association) group in your area and grow and learn and break the chain and stand up for the innocent children and adult children, like you, give them a voice! 

         jbrook 

 
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June 1, 2006, 8:53 pm PDT

enjoy his life?

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I had a similar situation happen when I was 13-15yrs old. I didn't tell my parents because I had already told the man's wife (I used to babysit for them) and she told me never to tell anyone because she didn't want her children's father to go to prison & if he did it would all be on me. So it continued for a few years.
If I was in your situation, I would not allow this man into my home, and he definitely shouldn't be anywhere near your children. If your mother wants to see you or your children, she should be able to arrange it without him present. That must be torturous for you!!!
Second, call your local district attorney or crown prosecutor (depending on where you live). I did this recently and although I'm past the statute of limitations for statutory rape, because the man was in a position of trust, there is no statute of limitations. This means if I ever feel I'm ready - even if it's 20 years from now - I can press charges against him. That gives me at least some peace. And maybe if you do decide to persue it with authorities, you could convince your cousin to do the same. Somehow, there has to be a way to stop this man.
I hope you're okay. Just remember that it's not your fault. Your mother obviously has her own issues, but just because it wasn't handled properly doesn't mean that's what you deserve. You deserve to feel safe and nobody has the right to take that away from you.

What are you waiting for! Consenual or not! His wife is holding you emotionally hostage. But; when you grow up and realize that this is so not cool and not your fault....the fault rests in the hands of the offender, the adult...... then you will hold him responsible. Would you let the man that molested or raped your kids, consentually or not, live on like it was just another day of opening junk mail? 

                          jbrook 

 
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June 2, 2006, 2:31 am PDT

You need to get out more!!

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These people that want to parade about with tattoos are seeking nothing but attention in their lives. They are absolutely desperate for attention of any kind, even BAD attention.   

   

You will never find multi-piecred, tats visible successful in the corporate world unless they work as a musician or at Hardley Davidson.   

Your comment reminds me of a '50's housewife who relates & compares the world with the tiny little life she lives.   Please get out more, and the verb "never" is really inappropriate in this context.  I know  people who are in 'what you would call', a responsible position who have tats.    

 & No, people aren't seeking attention as you comment, just expressing themselves.  Please get your head out of the sand.  Piercing and tats have been around as long as humans have been, in some cultures they are status symbols, only for the 'elite' in a tribe.   Life isn't always what you THINK you see.    

 
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June 2, 2006, 8:17 am PDT

ID Cards

Does anyone know where to get the Very Neccesary ID Cards that were mentioned on the program recently?  I can't seem to find them on the internet...Thanks for the help!
 
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June 2, 2006, 10:14 am PDT

Very Neccessary ID

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Does anyone know where to get the Very Neccesary ID Cards that were mentioned on the program recently?  I can't seem to find them on the internet...Thanks for the help!
Just copy & paste this into your browser

http://www.verynecessaryid.com/
 
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June 2, 2006, 12:03 pm PDT

Just Think Before You Ink!!

Hi all, I feel like I need to put my "two cents worth" in on this topic.  My partner and I own a tattoo and body piercing studio.  I will be 50 in a couple of months. I have been in this business almost 10 years, and my partner for nearly 25.  I have a BS in criminal justice, and have worked in law enforcement.  I also have my Cosmetology license and have worked as a stylist in the beauty industry.  In my early 30s while in college I also competed as a bodybuilder.  I did not begin modifying my body until my mid-30s, and then only with pieces I could cover with every-day clothing.  It has not been until fairly recently that I have indulged in full sleeves which extend on to the back of my hands.  I also have a full backpiece and have recently started on chest work.   

At this stage of my life, I have found my niche and can alter my appearance without it negatively affecting my career - in fact, it's expected in my line of work!     

However, if someone would have told me 20 years ago that I would have done any number of things that I have accomplished in my life (particularly bodybuilding & becoming a certified law enforcement officer) I would have thought they were hopelessly insane!   

Bear with me, folks - there's a point to all this!  It is impossible to foresee what life holds for you.  You may think you're always going to love that guy/girl, or love the music you love now.  You may say "I'll never work as a ....."  but never is a very long time.  Although body art is becoming far more mainstream, it is still not the "norm."  Prejudice? Yes.  But that is life in the real world.  We who alter our bodies for whatever reason CHOOSE to look as we do and so must accept the consequences.  This requires forethought.  When young people come in to our shop looking for full sleeves, work high on the neck or hands, or something else highly visible we advise them - kindly - that they may wish to reconsider.  Our advice is that if you can't cover it with normal business attire, you might not want to go there.  Some heed our caution; others don't.  It is not our place to impose our personal beliefs on others, any more than it is our job to "sell" our service - the person needs to make the decision; we are here to provide a service in a clean, respectful professional manner.  Looking back now, the extent of ink I have now would have certainly adversely affected my going in to law enforcement, and bodybuilding would have been right out.  In our state, we may pierce persons under 18 with parental consent (our shop requires the parent to be present during the procedure) but tattooing is not allowed under 18 at all.  Personally, all of us here feel that is an excellent law.  Certainly under 18 one is not mature enough to make such a decision.  (I've met plenty of folks twice that age who weren't mature enough either, but absolutely not any younger!)  We are always amazed when a parent will take their child to a neighboring state where it is legal to tattoo minors with parental consent - particularly the parents who allow the ink but forbid a piercing!!  Piercings can be removed, and although of course some scarring could be permanent from even the most well done and well cared for piercing, it is much less than the smallest tattoo!   

At any rate, PLEASE think about what you are doing, folks.  Don't run out and get inked at 18 just because you can or because your parents don't want you to.  If you DO decide to get ink or a piercing, DO YOUR HOMEWORK and be an informed consumer. Consider the design and its meaning. A name?? If you DON'T do it, you' ll probably be very glad later. (I'm thinking of they guy who had his wife's signature tattooed on his penis and ended up divorced a month or so later. Now THAT'S gonna be a tough cover!) Memorials, of course, are a different matter.  

 Don't run for the cheapest place.  Look not only at portfolios but also at healed work on real people. This will be a permanent part of you, and although MOST ink can be either covered or tweaked it'll never be the same as if it were done correctly to start with.  Look for a clean shop - and don't be afraid to ask questions regarding spore testing and sterilization procedures.  No reputable shop will be offended by this; they'll welcome it.  Yes we're artists - but we're not gods!!  YOU are the consumer.  You are paying for the service.  You have the right to be informed.  Don't be intimidated by the "mystique" some people seem to feel surrounds our profession.  No matter how stoked you are to get inked, if you walk in to a shop and it doesn't feel 100% right, KEEP LOOKING!!  I can't speak for anyone else's reasons for getting inked, but for my part it is a very personal representation of my inner self.  All my work represents either facets of my personality or my heritage. These are things which are ME, not a passing trend. I don't do it to get attention or to shock anyone.  I do it because I like it and find it beautiful.  Some people share my feelings; others don't - and that is OK.  I've had rude comments made to me in public by strangers, but I've had positive ones as well.  Everyone has a right to his/her opinion.  Some of the "scariest" looking people are the most gentle souls you will ever meet.  Think about it...how easy are we to identify?  If I wanted to be a really successful criminal, I'd want to blend in with those around me (think Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer or John Wayne Gacy, folks).   

Anyway, thanks for your attention - if you actually made it through this!  Trust me, if getting some ink or a piercing is the worst thing your kid ever does, you're GOLDEN!   

And by the way...even though hair styling is indeed an art profession it is necessary as with anything to pay some dues before you can get a coveted position in a high-end, trendy salon where you can truly engage in self-expression because your work speaks for itself.  And regarding the mom, does anyone else get the feeling that her protests are less about concern for her daughter than about how she thinks people will perceive HER because she has a tattooed daughter?? That's all folks! THINK BEFORE YOU INK!!   

 
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June 2, 2006, 3:04 pm PDT

What is sexy?

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tattoos  and periceings  make a person look  nasty and ugly!!   its not sexy at all.  
You are entitled to your opinion...but what is sexy?  Some women might say Brad Pitt - I'd say Sir Anthony Hopkins or Sean Connery.  Some people like blue eyes, some brown. Some men prefer women with curves; some the supermodel types.  There are so many different opinions!  Life would be boring if we were all the same.  My fear for you is that you could easily be victimized by a person you deem as "safe" based on appearance.  The neighbor who molested me when I was a child looked normal.  So did the mom on the Dr. Phil show who was abusing her precious children horribly.  So do the majority of rapists, molesters and serial killers. In fact, those are the TRUE faces of evil. If you don't find ink and piercings sexy, it's OK - those of us who are pierced & inked may well not find your look to be so either.  Also, not all of us in the US or other countries share your religious beliefs.  If your god forbids tattooing, that is fine for you.  In many cultures it is a mark of man/womanhood and respect.  You seem very fearful and even somewhat angry and threatened. Truly, you miss out on a lot in life if you avoid ANY group of people simply because of who they are - be it other cultures, religions, ethnicities, gender preferences or yes, how they choose to decorate themselves.  My best wishes to you; I hope you will find peace of mind.  Take care.
 
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June 2, 2006, 3:52 pm PDT

Amen & Thanks!

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 Kudos to all the people who are outraged that this mother thinks her daughter is a freak. First off, many successful people have tattoos. It does not bar people from good jobs, which seems to be a prevailing belief. I've even read articles written by a man who has full facial tattoos, and works in a law firm. His solution? Theatrical make-up. Secondly, tattoing is, and always has been a significant form of self-expression. Those who think that it's a new fad need to improve their research. Tattooing outdates any form of human decorations int he world, from the Maori, who have always marked their clan and family in their moko, or facial tattoo, to the crusaders, who tattooed religious symbols on their bodies, to the royalty of the Old North. Tattooing has a long, respected heritage. I hate seeing a few bigots destroy that respect. Thirdly, those who say "You'll regret it when you're older". Well, it depends. It depends on how well you think. If you stop to think, "can I love this tattoo for the rest of my life?" and the answer is yes, full speed ahead. If you have any doubts, don't do it. I've had freidns regret tattoos. One friend is in the process of getting the word "skinhead" removed from his knuckles, because he found that people automatically assume he is a Nazi (he is in fact anti racist, so don't judge things you don't understand), and won't hire him. On the other hand I have friends who who have tattoos in honor of family, or heritage, or in my own case, country, who have never regretted them. Nothing is one hundred percent.

I so agree with you!  Very good comments/observations.  Also many people seem to forget that not everyone defines "success" in the same way.  Corporate America is not "it" for everyone.  And, indeed, many of the folks saying these things would no doubt be VERY surprised what many people wear beneath their corporate garb.  I'm in the body art business, so I know.  Our clients range from high level professionals (corporate, doctors, lawyers etc) to military (not just enlisted), middle-age home-makers, police officers, teachers, just about any profession you could think of! Anyway just wanted you to know I enjoyed your comments!  

   

 
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June 2, 2006, 4:57 pm PDT

Listen up

Why are the first 3 pages filled up with messages for the girl with the tatoos?  Yes at her age her's are a bit excessive, but what about the girl who went on national TV and admitted that her step father sexually abused her.  That should turn more stomaches then inking  your body.  Wake up people, this is a huge problem that no amount of ink can cover.  I should know.  I am 36 years old and have just recently admitted to the biggest of the big secrets.......my stepfather sexually molested me when I was young.  My mother and him started dating when I was 2 (after my real father passed away) and he started touching me in areas that a little girl shouldnt be touched.  Then on a trip to California, in which my mother didn't attend, he decided that I needed to find out how oral sex felt.  I left California a different girl then when I went.  I started withdrawing, rebelling against both my mother and her boyfriend.  Thank goodness I didn't turn to drugs or sex.  I kinda just stayed in my own little world harboring the darkest of secrets.  Then at age 14, the unspeakable happened, they got married.  Of course no one figured out anything and I was told by my mother not to mess things up for her, so I kept quiet.  I felt that if I kept the secret that no one else would have to get hurt and I could handle it.  I started getting really premiscuious (spelling) at age 18 and started  using men and throwing them away like trash, I had trouble holding on to friends, because I was withdrawn, and when I did find a guy I liked I couldn't trust him.  I never put two and two together.  I kept going on like this, never knowing.  I finally found a good man and got married at age 26, had a baby at 29 and when my little girl turned 2 it was like a ticking time bomb that was just waiting to go off.  Of course you have to realize that I am an only child and I had the only grandchild so my mother and step father were always around and my husband felt some tension, but never put it together.  One night him and I went out for drinks and I had a few too many, and my husband got brave and asked me some leading questions (yes he is a law enforcement officer) and he had the last couple pieces to the puzzle.  He figured out what had happened to me without me giving all the details.  He begged me to tell my mother and if I didn't then he would.  After much thought I told my mother before she left my house for the weekend.  She wanted to know why I didn't tell her sooner and all I said was I was scared and didn't want to ruin her relationship.  To make a long drawn out story short, it has now been 4 years since I told my mother what her husband of 22 years did to her little girl and she still is married to him and I haven't spoken to her in 3 years.  

   

I have been going through counseling and I think it is helping a little bit, but I am starting to miss having a mother around for the mothering things and I am just not sure how to approach the situation and start to talk to her again without having to deal with her husband.  

 
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