Topic : Setting Boundaries

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Created on : Thursday, June 30, 2005, 01:21:13 pm
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It's important to set healthy boundaries for and with your teen. Share your strategies.

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April 7, 2007, 8:41 am PDT

I need help for my son

My son has had a baseball in his hand since he was 6 years old.  He has always been an all star player and we have invested thousands of dollars in his goal to be a Major League Player.  However a couple of years ago he started failing his classes.  We threated to pull him out of Select Baseball if he didn't start passing his classes. Last summer we required him to get a job to help pay for his insurance and gas. He is a junior this year and at the begining of the school year he failed another class.  He blamed it on work and wanted to quit his job to concentrate on school.  We know the drill so we told him he could not quit his job.  Meanwhile, I put my foot down (against his father and step father) and pulled him out of Select Baseball.  He ended up quitting his job and swore he would pull up his grades.  He also told us he felt "ripped off" because we bought him a crappy car and all of his friends parents have bought them new or nice used cars, they don't have to pay for insurance or help with gas.  They just get to be kids and have fun.  (We don't agree with that type of parenting)  That quarter he failed two classes. 

Since he has gotten his license in August, he has recieved 4 speeding tickets (1 which he kept from us) , rear ended an off duty police officer, and two weeks ago put his car in a ditch while trying to pass another car.  We told him until he could prove he was mature enough to drive and act responsible, he was not allowed to drive his car and only allowed to drive our truck to baseball practice and back.  Yesterday he called me at work to tell me someone had taken a baseball bat "or something" to his car.  I asked him repeatedly if he had taken it out to which his reply was "No, I don't know what happend, now you are blaming me?"

When I got home after work, he was at baseball practice.  The dents on his car a baseball bat couldn't do.  There was damage underneath the car, the plastic on the mirror was broken and grass/brush inbedded up into it.  I found evidence of mud and dirt which was washed off his car.  I looked at our truck and there was mud and dirt inside, but the outside had been washed also.

When he got home I asked him to tell me what happend.  He strongly denied taking out his car or anything to do with any accident.  After several hours he finally told me that he and his friends met on the military reservation and were messing around in there cars.  Driving fast then turning, sliding... he ran into brush-went 4 wheeling with his car.  Once he wrecked his car, he came home and got our truck and took that out 4 wheeling.  Now he is made because I act like a "CSI" investigator and don't trust him.  He says he is only being a kid and just wants to have fun and it's no big deal.

I am pretty strict with him, curfew is 11:00 unless it's special, the tickets he has gotten I have told him he has to try to do communtiy service to work off, he doesn't get to go to parties.

Previously we had given him a cash card for gas only.  However it had to be taken away because he has taken it upon himself to purchase what he wants...food for him and his friends, baseball gloves (he was only supposed to buy a helment and it ended up costing us $ 150), jewley for himself, items for his car... before we finally pulled it from him.

He appreciates nothing we do for him or anything he has, nor does he have ANY self control.  I need some help!  He is spiralling out of control and I am afraid if we don't get some counseling or something, he is going to go off on the deep end.

 
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April 13, 2007, 11:59 am PDT

boundaries with ex's

I am a little confused at my husband.  He is very adament that I do not have a relationship with his ex.  In my relationship with my ex and his new wife, it is wonderful.  We discuss things and stay involved with what our children are doing and if a problem comes up we are able to discuss it in a mature open way.  I would not trade that for anything.  We keep it based on the children only and no personal information.  I don't understand why he has a problem with it and why it makes him so angry.  He says that I am not supporting him because his ex hurt him and lies about everything.  Can someone give me some insight on this and why I have had to apologize to him and tell him it would't happen again when I feel it is such a blessing to have the relationship that I do with my children's new step-mother.
 
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May 3, 2007, 7:33 pm PDT

Teenagers

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Hi I am getting very annoyed and angry, not to mention feeling helpless.

I have 1 x 18 year old son, 1x 16 year old daughter. between the 2 of them I feel totally redundant.  I dont feel that I have any respect in my own home. I ask one thing usually to stop the lanquage ( the F word excetera).  I just dont see the need for its use constantly. when I go crook at them they just say get over it or you didnt tell him to stop it why do you always pick on me says my 16 yo.

I have constant arguements about helping me around the house. My son thinks because he is at work all day he shouldnt have to do anything. dosn't seem to matter when I work though or have been busy all day.  all I ask him to do is clean his dirty room.  My daughter does help when she is in the mood.

My problem is I suffer from chronic depression, and dont feel I have the strength to argue without getting upset.   

What can I do to get some dicipline and respect in my house I really do think  i deserve it .

 

thanks leanne

Hi Leanne,

 

I'm new to this board but noticed that no one had replied to your post yet so...

 

I have three teenagers and a ten year old ("Calgon take me away!"  :-)  ) and I also struggle with circumstances you described. Therefore, I did some research and found some info that may help both of us.

 

Read this article:

http://drphil.com/articles/article/141/   Also, you may find the following advice helpful from http://drphil.com/articles/article/305 :
  • You won't get what you want by being a totalitarian dictator. Communication and mutual participation are the keys.

  • Kids needs to be able to predict with 100 percent accuracy what the consequences of their actions will be. Jay recalls that when he had a go-cart, it was made clear that if he was caught driving it without a helmet, it'd be sold immediately. Knowing that consequence gave him a choice, and he chose to wear the helmet.

  • Take the time to discuss the reasoning behind a decision. Just saying "no" isn't always sufficient, and certainly doesn't make the teen's desire go away. Teens can learn how to reason things through if you give them a lead to follow.

  • The greatest things you can give your son or daughter are your ear and your voice. When Jay asked teens across the country what they wanted most from their parents, the number one answer was to have their parents more involved in their lives. They don't want to be interrogated — just talked to!
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    I hope this helps you. 

     

    Hang in there,

    Sally

     
     
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    May 18, 2007, 3:25 pm PDT

    What is going on?

     I have a problem with my 15 year old.  I have been divorced from her father for 8 years.  I am now remarried for the last 5 years.  My 15 year met a man of the age of 22 and began talking with him.  After telling her that she was not to talk to him or see him, she moved out while I was at work.  Now she will not return even though I have custody of her.  Her father has talked  her into staying there because will allow her to date this man.  He picks her up for school, goes to her father's home and grandmother's home to visit her.  Now it is going to Court since he is not abiding by court order.  I know when she is made to come home she will be very mad.  What should I do? My heart tells me that she is a minor and it isn't right to be with  a 22 year old.  I explained to her when she is 18 years old she can make that  choice.  I am very much in need of some advice.  I have talked to several other parents and they are going  through the same thing.  To make things worst, he does not like my husband because he agrees with me.
     
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    June 2, 2007, 5:45 pm PDT

    school...what else can we do?

    Quote From: soareagle

    I am a single parent with a very bright 14 year old who does not want to put in the work required to get decent marks - for now high Cs/Bs. 

      

    I have involved the high school councilor who asked him if he would be willing to participate in getting his teachers sign of work done for the day and homework etc. He agreed and did so for 2 days. Now he says to me I have gotten it signed but forgot at school ... he did not; simply lied! 

      

    I have substantially stopped negging him and occasionally take his TV privileges. Now the social councilor says back off and let him figure it out. That taking away privileges are counter productive with school.  

      

    Thanks,  

    I too have a 13 year old in the same situation.  She is very bright but refuses to put in the required work to get good grades.  She just doesnt care, has no emotions for the consiquenses she is going to endure because unlike your son she has B's, C's, D's and is currently failing one class.  I have enlisted the counsilor at her school, talked to several of her teachers on a regular basis, had a committee of cousilors, special education teachers, her teachers, the principle of her school to see if she has any disablities that maybe we are missing but sitting around the confrence table they all agreed she is just lazy and very social and extreamly qualified to do the work.  We are a few weeks till the end of the school year and I have given up (mostly) to all the nagging I seem to have to do and put the outcome in her hands, she will not move on to high school with all her friends if she does not pass and do the required work.  I am so fustrated because I have a beautiful and very smart daughter that just doesnt care and I do not know what else I can do. 

     

    I think that we just need to give them love, guidance and hope that all of our values will one day set in and they will get on the right path to life.

     
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    June 6, 2007, 12:58 pm PDT

    Setting Boundaries

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    I too have a 13 year old in the same situation.  She is very bright but refuses to put in the required work to get good grades.  She just doesnt care, has no emotions for the consiquenses she is going to endure because unlike your son she has B's, C's, D's and is currently failing one class.  I have enlisted the counsilor at her school, talked to several of her teachers on a regular basis, had a committee of cousilors, special education teachers, her teachers, the principle of her school to see if she has any disablities that maybe we are missing but sitting around the confrence table they all agreed she is just lazy and very social and extreamly qualified to do the work.  We are a few weeks till the end of the school year and I have given up (mostly) to all the nagging I seem to have to do and put the outcome in her hands, she will not move on to high school with all her friends if she does not pass and do the required work.  I am so fustrated because I have a beautiful and very smart daughter that just doesnt care and I do not know what else I can do. 

     

    I think that we just need to give them love, guidance and hope that all of our values will one day set in and they will get on the right path to life.

    I am a pretty smart girl myself, and i got very bad grades for the last 4 years too, most of them were ok, but last year was really bad. my problem was, the work was to easy, there was no challenge, it was boring, and if you get bored by it, you don't want to do anything of it, even though you could possibly do it in half an hour. also i got so bored, that i became very tired from a school day, just out of boredom, so i started skipping classes, whole days, and sometimes even a whole week. although i didn't have many friends at the time either, so that was probably a reason for skipping classes too. is there a subject she does like, or is there something she is interested in in her free time? maybe you can talk to the school and agree that if she has her work finished, she can work on that. the school will probably make a big deal out of it, but for you child's sake push it through. most of the time the kids like to learn, at least i did, but the form in which it was offered at school just didn't appeal to me. if she doesn't know a challenge i can try to teach her dutch, it is said to be a very difficult language to non native speakers :P that will be a challenge........ just try to get the school to let her try the the things on her own first, let her work while the rest get's everything explained if she already gets it, and maybe she will get more motivated. i went to a montessori school, i don't know if you know it, you work on your own, and try to figure it out on your own first, and if you don't get it you go to the teacher, and they'll explain it. it really woorked well for me, because you can decide your own speed. she probably just works a lot faster than everybody else, and that's why she gets bored.

     

    hope it helps,

    annemiek

     

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    June 14, 2007, 7:20 am PDT

    My 7 year old spoiled brat

    I don't even know if spoiled brat is the word but I'm not sure what else to call it.  My 7 year old son is out of control.  He really is a kind, thoughtful boy but at times when he doesn't get his way, he's disrespectful, causes damage to his room, pouts, tells me not to talk to him, get out of his room.  Currently, I only have him on the weekends and it's painful to take away his privledges most of the time he is with me.  I feel like I am being punished.  His other parent and I discuss often and he deals with the same.    I try to talk to him, but he's always mad.  We ending spending time at home because he looses privledges.  What can I do?
     
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    June 14, 2007, 1:11 pm PDT

    7 year old 'spoiled brat'

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    I don't even know if spoiled brat is the word but I'm not sure what else to call it.  My 7 year old son is out of control.  He really is a kind, thoughtful boy but at times when he doesn't get his way, he's disrespectful, causes damage to his room, pouts, tells me not to talk to him, get out of his room.  Currently, I only have him on the weekends and it's painful to take away his privledges most of the time he is with me.  I feel like I am being punished.  His other parent and I discuss often and he deals with the same.    I try to talk to him, but he's always mad.  We ending spending time at home because he looses privledges.  What can I do?

    If your son’s other parent faces the same issues, then both of you MUST put your heads together and make a resolution to deal with your son’s attitude in the same manner. If you don’t, your son will continue to be angry and make your life miserable. It is very important that you are 100% consistent in every aspect of disciplining your son; if you say you are going to take something away or give a certain punishment, you must be prepared to truly follow through with that punishment. For best results, find out what your son’s “currency” is; meaning what it is that he holds the most dear to him. That is your ticket. Dr. Phil has advised parents to strip their kids’ bedrooms of everything but the bed and a blanket and make the child earn back everything that s/he owns. I know that this feels like punishment for you, it is understandable that when you have your son at your home that you would simply want to have a nice time, get along, and have life run smoothly. But, your son isn’t going for that. He wants to play hardball, so he is forcing you to get tough. He has the power within himself to have a good time, to behave himself and earn fun privileges, but for some reason, he doesn’t want to do that. My advice to you regarding your son’s anger is to seek professional help for him, because he is only 7 now; his anger won’t just go away on its own-- it will get worse; and you will have an easier time resolving a 7 year olds’ anger as opposed to a 16 year olds’ anger. I wish you the best, don’t wait another day to find a professional in your area who specializes in children.

     
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    June 27, 2007, 1:39 pm PDT

    my teenage goddaughter

    hi dr phil i took my goddaughter two years july 9th it will be three this july. she came to me after her mom died she died of cerrious of the liver she drank every day . when i got mary she was so sweet now that she 14 she fights with me everyday and lies too. she 153 pounds at this age i say too much she says no she tell me to trust her just last friday stay out till 12 am we fight all the time want better relasenship with her  thank you nancy
     
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    June 29, 2007, 10:57 am PDT

    14 Yr. Daughter - Wants NO Vacation!

    My 14yr old daughter wants no part of our family vacation (Driving to fun cities to stay with friends, shopping, swimming, site seeing etc.) and wants to stay home.  She persists that she is old enough and wants her 'ALONE time'.  She says that we should trust her and I do but I don't want my 14 yr old home alone for 8 days.

     

    To compound the problem my hubby, (Stay at home Dad) has opened the door slightly to the idea which has totally given the daughter 'UMPH' to keep fighting.  When I told him on the phone that we had to be a united front he stated, "I've told you I use to HATE that crap from my parents.  I don't want her to go and spoil our fun. I think its a bad decision and she should stay home or we should arrange friends families to cover. I totally think she's a good kid.  She doesn't do drugs, doesn't drink..I can trust her. But I do not trust the outside elements or the poential for trouble.

     

    My thinking is that I work 10 - 12 hour days as a program manager and I deal with enough stress.  I should be able to have a vacation WITH my family and none of this drama. 

     

     

    Thoughts?  Am I being unreasonable? 

     

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