Topic : Teen Dating

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April 4, 2006, 11:17 am PDT

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I totally sympathize with you. This sort of situation is what I fear for my daughter when she gets older, too. But I do try to make sure that her daddy has a strong, positive role in her life. I hope that he shows a good example of how a man should treat and respect women. Has she had a good relationship with her father? Is she involved in any other activities to validate her, like college or work?  

I went through the same sort of relationship at 17 or 18. And although my dad was and is a great man, acceptance and emotion weren't easily expressed in my strict household. And although he talked to me a lot about his expectations, he didn't listen very well. I wonder if that had much to do with me letting the first person to show me some attention just walk all over me, in fear that no one else would want me. But it took the boy being shockingly abusive (only once, thank God) to make me get away from him.  

I hope you find a way to let her know she deserves more. I know its frustrating, but don't stop talking to her. And don't give up. 

  

I believe that you should tell your daughter that she is the only person in the world who has ownership of herself,and her feelings.  She is a beautiful person who deserves to have everything she can in life.  She is not to be treated badly by anyone and to demand respect from people is to be treated with respect.   She will come around, hopefully.  She needs your advice, love and support.  Always tell her that no matter what your decisions that you will always love her.  Explain to her that you hate to see her treated that way.  Put the onus on yourself not the bf.  It will work out.
 
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April 4, 2006, 2:31 pm PDT

Teen Dating

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I totally sympathize with you. This sort of situation is what I fear for my daughter when she gets older, too. But I do try to make sure that her daddy has a strong, positive role in her life. I hope that he shows a good example of how a man should treat and respect women. Has she had a good relationship with her father? Is she involved in any other activities to validate her, like college or work?  

I went through the same sort of relationship at 17 or 18. And although my dad was and is a great man, acceptance and emotion weren't easily expressed in my strict household. And although he talked to me a lot about his expectations, he didn't listen very well. I wonder if that had much to do with me letting the first person to show me some attention just walk all over me, in fear that no one else would want me. But it took the boy being shockingly abusive (only once, thank God) to make me get away from him.  

I hope you find a way to let her know she deserves more. I know its frustrating, but don't stop talking to her. And don't give up. 

  

My applause to you!  STand your ground.  I too am the "only" mom that didnt let our girls do alot of those things at that age.  It's hard when everyone else really is getting to do all those things.  Just start slow.  Give her some ground and see how she proves herself. 

I appreciate your response.  Yes, her father and I have been very involved in her life.  She was 4th in her high school class, involved with athletics and social activities at school.   She is now a college freshman and this nightmare continues to follow us.  This kid was nuts for her and she wouldnt give him the time of day.  Its been off and on for 4 or 5 years.  Once she finally fell for him he thought it was time to start acting like a dog.  Telling her, You know we'll be together, but not right now.  I want to enjoy being young and so on and so on.  She knows about several infidelities and he seems to always have an excuse as to why he did it.  so she sits and waits for him to throw her a bone like a desperate little puppy.  This has put such a strain on the whole family its not even funny.   I know she has to make decisions but what if they are dangerous to her self worth????? 

 
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April 4, 2006, 5:29 pm PDT

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yeah, i guess i got a little carried away...i'm just starting to feel certain emotions again, after being addicted to hashish and I was reminded of things that happened to me in highschool and it got me angry. 

  

it's just upsets me to think that nice girls are staying in a relationship and being treated like dirt. 

  

also there is the "nice guys" v.s. "jerks" phenomenon. A lot of (not all, by a lot) of girls are attracted to jerks and "bad boys". I think it's because they have more confidence than the nice guys. 

  

and yes, there are plenty of fish in the sea, but they're about to be reeled up by some bad-boy jerk or rich fisherman :( 

  

Don't get too down in the dumps because there are a lot of intelligent girls who might be attracted to "bad boys" at first, but when they see they are being treated badly they realize that "bad boys" are bad news. Don't worry. You'll find someone. 

 
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April 5, 2006, 9:42 am PDT

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I have a nearly 14 y/o daughter (that looks like she's 18) that tries to push the boundaries, which I know is normal. She's beautiful, very smart, and tells me I'm so NOT cool (which, of course, I beg to differ). She makes A's without effort, and so I expect good grades. I also expect her to complete a few simple daily responsibilities at home. She likes typical teen music and fashion, and we try hard not to spoil her. As a matter of fact, I seem to be the only mother out there that has such strict rules . We let her wear some make-up, which she uses good judgement with. I think its rediculous to spend $80 on a pair of jeans that everyone else supposedly has.  We talk to her about sex and drugs and other dangers often. We don't allow her to camp out on the phone all day, and I don't think it is cool for her to call boys, at least not yet, but we have recently allowed that another 8th grade boy she likes can call her. But when did it become acceptable for 8th graders to have a tongue piercing? Or young boys hair all in their face and pants falling off of them? Or feel obligated to listen to music with explicit lyrics? Or DATE at this age?  She used to complain that "everyone else gets to do these things," and I'd think that was bolongna. But seems that its true! I don't feel like my boundaries are over the top, but yet most teens her age have all these privileges that I feel they are way too young to handle. I mean, having boys over? Cell phones of thier own? Every electronic gadget known to man? (it was a huge deal for me to cave in and get her a nano iPod for Christmas) Thier own computers? Phones in their rooms? Dropped off at the mall for hours, or at the movies with boys? No wonder middle schoolers are experimenting with oral sex and drugs! She swears she's the only girl in her class that actually has to feed the dogs, take out the trash, AND do the dishes as her daily chores. My friends at work tell me that if I don't let her have these things and turn her loose with boys now, that she will rebel and do it anyway, because everyone else is doing it. As if I should just turn her loose, put her on birth control and get it over with, cuz "they're gonna do it, anyway." Dr. Phil, I feel like I am the only parent out here that is trying desperately to not let my 8th grader think that its acceptable to act like your 18 or 21. Am I living in a cave? How do you fight a society of complacency and a market of immorality? p.s. I've taken the parenting test....seems I score high in the authoritairan and equalitarian roles.

Don't back down on the rules!! Sure, maybe other kids don't have to have the responsibilities that you give your daughter- but feeding the dog, taking out trash, etc., isn't like brain surgery- having responsibilities creates a sense of duty and she will be happy later in life that she was actually taught and shown what its like to have responsibilities.. like when her college room mate is "stressed" because she has to work 10 hours a week and your daughter has been doing that since she was old enough to work- she will actually see with her own eyes that she was lucky to have parents who gave her rules, boundaries, and chores because otherwise she would have ended up a lazy, irresponsible person who sat around waiting for everything to come to her. Your co-workers are WRONG! Do they have teens? Did they follow the advice they gave you- just cave in and give? How productive are their children now?  

I have 3 daughers, my oldest is 15, and I feel strongly that she must have a handfull of chores that get done and reasonable rules. When she follows the rules and does chores, then she gets to have the freedom to go to the movies with friends, etc. I don't believe in just taking her word for anything, because, after all, I do remember being 15!! I have "networked" with her friend's mothers and we keep close tabs on what they are doing. I feel that I need to give my daughter freedom to have fun and to have life experiences, but I can't, and I won't, just "let go" like many other parents do. I also noticed what you mentioned, that other kids have cell phones, many gadgets, etc., and thats not what our household is like, either. If she wants to save her money and buy herself something, than she is free to do that, and she has bought her own cell phone with pre-paid minutes. Now that she has it, I realize the convenience of being able to contact her, and I have paid for the last minute card because she has proved her responsiblity with it. Also, it was her own money that she used to pay for it, so she has respect for it as property. I urge you to not cave in, don't listen to others, you've got to keep listening to your instincts!! "everyone else is doing it" has been an age-old phrase. Sometimes its true, other times its not true- you will know the difference! 

 
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April 7, 2006, 7:43 am PDT

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lol u guy at 15 if a child is mature enough u should let her date not 14 thats to young i would say 15 u should start letting ur kids date but make sure u no who the guy is but be open minded about it  

do not judge to fast 16 is a great age to have a relastion ship but to date is 15 dateing and relationships are way deferent things dateing is like just chillin relastionships are much much more me my self i dont like to rush things but i dont like to be judged to fast  

and if ur letting ur 15 year old date make sure shes not over dressed like make her look her age  

amd u have a sex talk aids are way to out of control but as long as u check well ur daughter checks him shell be ok evan nice looking ppl have aids and other sex desises 

My child who was 15 is now almost 16 1/2, and she has yet to ask about dating one on one, as she hasn't come across anyone she feels is "right" for her yet. And since she isn't given clothes which are inappropriate, I don't have to worry about her wearing anything like that.  :)
 
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April 7, 2006, 3:14 pm PDT

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I'm 17 years old and I've had my fair share of relationships. My last boyfriend didn't last long, and I'll say that we really didn't hit it off so well as boyfriend/girlfriend. We broke up about 3 months later but were still really close friends and in the past year, we've grown very close. I just turned 17 a couple of months ago and I finally can get out and have a little more freedom (but not too much, my parents do still keep me held back from certain things). But my parents are also older for my age, I'm 17 years old and my parents are both in their early 60's so It's sort of like living with your grandparents all the time. They still live back in the day when if you wore a black shirt you were considered gothic and if you even talked to a guy you were automatically labeled an "item".  

  

But as I said, me and my ex-boyfriend are still very close and really good friends. I talk to him mostly every day and we just know each other inside out. I don't want to be anything more with him than good friends because he has a new girlfriend and they're happy with each other and I don't want to try to ruin that for him. But my mom doesn't seem to understand this. She thinks that I still fall for him and he is just playing me because he does have another girlfriend but constantly talks to me (which he does, but I don't see it that way. I just see it as us being best friends who talk alot.) We try to go do stuff together but my mom says that I can't go off with him unless it's a date and that since I'm so blind to not be able to see what's going on, she's going to do this for me (this, being, keeping me away from him)

And since my mom is getting up there in age, she's pulled away from her friends and is sort of a sit at  home sort of girl. And I don't mind spending time with her at all, but I'm 17 and I'd like to be able to do things too. My dad isn't living at home right now (he works out of town) so we're pretty much here by ourself. Which consequently, makes it hard for me to be able to spend the night with my friends or be out past 9:00 (that is, if i'm allowed to even go out) 

  

I also tell her things that go on in my life sometimes, but lately I've kept things to myself because she doesn't seem to have anything to talk about except my life. She talks to my aunt alot and more than once i've found her sitting talking to my aunt about my personal life which I had hoped she'd keep to herself. I don't really want the entire family knowing about my problems. 

  

So really, my question is, how can I get it through her head that I need my own space and she doesn't have to hold my hand through relationships now that i'm getting older? Or am I being too pushy? 

I don't think that you're being pushy. My Mum's the same way sometimes - I'm sixteen - and it drives me batty. Now, if I specifically ask her to keep something to herself, she will. But, if I don't, then there's a chance that it'll be passed around to half the family. Or, in the least, to my uncle and grandmother.

As for the dating, I think you're right - at some point, parents need to step back. I always found it odd when parents say something like "you can't date until you're mature enough" to a 14 year old, in example. How is one expected to mature and learn how to handle such things if they aren't given that chance? I don't really know when I was first allowed to date - it wasn't something I was overly interested in until more recently, so I don't think it was ever an issue. I dated casually, of course, but there was nothing even remotely serious until about.. almost 2 years ago? I ended up dating a guy and staying with him for a year and a half, but it fell apart in the end. And this wasn't a 'flavour of the week' teenage relationship, so real feelings were invloved, and it did hurt - but I learnt from it. That's the main point, right?

Besides, your kids are more likely to do crazy things if you smother them  (if what I've seen is any indication, anyway). If you give them a bit of breathing room, a lot of the time they learn to handle themselves. 

 
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April 10, 2006, 4:26 pm PDT

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Don't back down on the rules!! Sure, maybe other kids don't have to have the responsibilities that you give your daughter- but feeding the dog, taking out trash, etc., isn't like brain surgery- having responsibilities creates a sense of duty and she will be happy later in life that she was actually taught and shown what its like to have responsibilities.. like when her college room mate is "stressed" because she has to work 10 hours a week and your daughter has been doing that since she was old enough to work- she will actually see with her own eyes that she was lucky to have parents who gave her rules, boundaries, and chores because otherwise she would have ended up a lazy, irresponsible person who sat around waiting for everything to come to her. Your co-workers are WRONG! Do they have teens? Did they follow the advice they gave you- just cave in and give? How productive are their children now?  

I have 3 daughers, my oldest is 15, and I feel strongly that she must have a handfull of chores that get done and reasonable rules. When she follows the rules and does chores, then she gets to have the freedom to go to the movies with friends, etc. I don't believe in just taking her word for anything, because, after all, I do remember being 15!! I have "networked" with her friend's mothers and we keep close tabs on what they are doing. I feel that I need to give my daughter freedom to have fun and to have life experiences, but I can't, and I won't, just "let go" like many other parents do. I also noticed what you mentioned, that other kids have cell phones, many gadgets, etc., and thats not what our household is like, either. If she wants to save her money and buy herself something, than she is free to do that, and she has bought her own cell phone with pre-paid minutes. Now that she has it, I realize the convenience of being able to contact her, and I have paid for the last minute card because she has proved her responsiblity with it. Also, it was her own money that she used to pay for it, so she has respect for it as property. I urge you to not cave in, don't listen to others, you've got to keep listening to your instincts!! "everyone else is doing it" has been an age-old phrase. Sometimes its true, other times its not true- you will know the difference! 

It doesn't surprise me that your work colleagues have that attitude as I have heard it many times.  I would ask them though would you give your child a joint, or maybe their first taste of P cause hey they are going to try it at some stage anyway.  Perhaps they might like to dial up a drunk driver and put their child in the car and send them on their way cause statistics say they are liikely to do that too. 

I work in an Emergency Dept and see the results of parents just giving in - so called good children so intoxicated that they have wet themselves, or young girls drugged or intoxicated barely dressed.  One young girl 15 yrs old stripped off and lay spread eagled in the corridor.  When her parents arrived they would not believe that she behaved like this and it was everyone else's fault their daughter was intoxicated. 

We need more parents like yourself.  I have 3 children 15, 13 & 11.  My oldest, a boy, did have a girlfriend at 14, after meeting with her mother they were allowed to visit with each other with rules.  No bedroom, no 'snogging', and no interefering with school or after school activities, among others.  Both her mother and myself are solo mums.  The kids agreed to the rules and never attempted to break them.  If I had not met, or had the support from her mother then my son would not have been allowed to visit with her in her home, however, she would have been more than welcome in ours.  The relationship lasted approx 8 months.  Last wk he asked if he could have another girl come round. 

I read my children;s txts - they tried the do you not trust us - and I replied yes I do trust you which is why I know I can read your txts at anytime and not find anything inappropriate written.  They are my responsibility and my job to keep them safe and if that means spying then I shall spy - I also remeber what I was up to at 15. 

Anyway on one of these recognasance missions I found txts from thiis new friend  saying she was home, supposedly unwell.  That she had been drinking and wanted to see him.  She asked why he did not want sex with her (thank GOD some of my lecturing has hit home). 

I sat my son down, gave him a huge hug, told him how proud I was that he had said he did not want to have sex.  I then told him that I felt this girl inappropriate.  He said she was really nice.  As I explained she probably was a very nice girl, however, she was not making good decisions with her life.  I have explained that the rules are still the same, that he will not be socialising with her outside school hours unless it is at our home, with me present and as long as she stays within my rules.  I would like to say a big fat NO but this often leads to kids feeling that they are forced to disobey so I hope that with rules in place that my son may teach her a better way.  I shall however be watching closely and if I feel he is going down her road then he will hit a brick wall - being me. 

I feel as a parent we are walking a knife edge.  I have gone through many scenarios of what I may come up against in the future and attempted to put in place possible solutions - I believe in being prepared.  It is not easy being a parent and in particular a solo parent. 

I do ask why are we allowing (or even encouraging) our children to bypass their childhood.  What will they have to look forward to in life when they have experienced it all at such young ages. 

 
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Huggles to you!!!!!

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It doesn't surprise me that your work colleagues have that attitude as I have heard it many times.  I would ask them though would you give your child a joint, or maybe their first taste of P cause hey they are going to try it at some stage anyway.  Perhaps they might like to dial up a drunk driver and put their child in the car and send them on their way cause statistics say they are liikely to do that too. 

I work in an Emergency Dept and see the results of parents just giving in - so called good children so intoxicated that they have wet themselves, or young girls drugged or intoxicated barely dressed.  One young girl 15 yrs old stripped off and lay spread eagled in the corridor.  When her parents arrived they would not believe that she behaved like this and it was everyone else's fault their daughter was intoxicated. 

We need more parents like yourself.  I have 3 children 15, 13 & 11.  My oldest, a boy, did have a girlfriend at 14, after meeting with her mother they were allowed to visit with each other with rules.  No bedroom, no 'snogging', and no interefering with school or after school activities, among others.  Both her mother and myself are solo mums.  The kids agreed to the rules and never attempted to break them.  If I had not met, or had the support from her mother then my son would not have been allowed to visit with her in her home, however, she would have been more than welcome in ours.  The relationship lasted approx 8 months.  Last wk he asked if he could have another girl come round. 

I read my children;s txts - they tried the do you not trust us - and I replied yes I do trust you which is why I know I can read your txts at anytime and not find anything inappropriate written.  They are my responsibility and my job to keep them safe and if that means spying then I shall spy - I also remeber what I was up to at 15. 

Anyway on one of these recognasance missions I found txts from thiis new friend  saying she was home, supposedly unwell.  That she had been drinking and wanted to see him.  She asked why he did not want sex with her (thank GOD some of my lecturing has hit home). 

I sat my son down, gave him a huge hug, told him how proud I was that he had said he did not want to have sex.  I then told him that I felt this girl inappropriate.  He said she was really nice.  As I explained she probably was a very nice girl, however, she was not making good decisions with her life.  I have explained that the rules are still the same, that he will not be socialising with her outside school hours unless it is at our home, with me present and as long as she stays within my rules.  I would like to say a big fat NO but this often leads to kids feeling that they are forced to disobey so I hope that with rules in place that my son may teach her a better way.  I shall however be watching closely and if I feel he is going down her road then he will hit a brick wall - being me. 

I feel as a parent we are walking a knife edge.  I have gone through many scenarios of what I may come up against in the future and attempted to put in place possible solutions - I believe in being prepared.  It is not easy being a parent and in particular a solo parent. 

I do ask why are we allowing (or even encouraging) our children to bypass their childhood.  What will they have to look forward to in life when they have experienced it all at such young ages. 

You hit the nail on the head!  I, too, have a 15, 13, & 11 yr old kids, my oldest also being male.  I was a "single" parent for the majority of of their lives since their father elected not to participate prior to our divorce up until my recent remarriage.  I also work in human services and have seen the worst of the worst.  It makes you want to go home and just hug your kids and be thankful they are in your arms and safe.
You sound very similar in the rules department with my kids and my expectations of them to earn the trust.  I can't understand why more parents are not speaking up as to why their children's livelyhood is compromised with adult issues at such an early age.  The media in itself seems to be allowing the shifting of cultural permissiveness in what is appropriate for children to view, listen to, play with, or be witness of.  People need to start turning off their tvs, be extremely discreet in allowing their kids to play specific video games, and monitor the computer to the maximum capacity.  Parents may trust their kids, but why the heck are they automatically trusting the media in which their kids are viewing?  I don't get it.
But thank you for posting your opinion, I truly am appreciating that there are more parents like me in being picky who their friends are, who they're chatting with, what their listening and watching, and Lord forbid, being responsible for chores!  (As I've always told my son - he's in training to learn how to run a household and that his future wife will one day thank me for it.  He's always giggled to that response.)
 
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April 17, 2006, 11:59 am PDT

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I had to comment after reading many questions about appropriate ages for teen dating. I'm 18 and a college freshman and I was not allowed to date until I turned 16. I was allowed to have boyfriends who were allowed to come over to the house (with parents there of course) but I could not go out on my own with just them. I will admit, I hated having to wait for sweet sixteen so I could be going out like all my friends were. I'm pretty sure I begged my mom a dozen times to change it but thankfully, my parents didn't change their minds. I think parents should stick to their rules and not back down. I know that we'll complain and try to make you feel horrible about the situation, but eventually we'll look back and appreciate you actually caring about us. Do I think 16 should be the age that everyone must wait for to date? No. If your child has a good attitude, good grades and follows your rules and seems responsible, then they should be able to date. At 14, I was entering high school and NO clue about guys. I had no reason to be dating. The two extra years gave me time to mature. So whether you're making your child wait to date or you're debating about it, go with your gut instinct. They may be mad at you, but in a couple of years, they'll appreciate your concern.
 
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April 17, 2006, 5:33 pm PDT

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My 18 yr old daughter is making plans for her senior prom. She will be going with her FIRST real boyfriend whom she has been dating 5 months. He is 16 and a half and they are "in love." Here is the quandry: my daughter received a Christmas gift (bracelet and earrings) from a boy whom she has known for six years. They went on a few dates over four years ago, but now are only friends, and he has stated he is gay. My daughter has not been able to wear the jewelry because it is so fancy. The flowers in her prom dress happen to match the necklace, and she would like to wear the jewelry. My daughter asked her boyfriend if it would bother him if she wore the necklace, and at first he said he would take a cab home from prom if she did. After a few days, he said he would still go to prom with her, but would be miserable. She is also in theater, and her boyfriend said that he would "punch" anyone with whom she had a make-out scene (if that ever happened.) My daughter is very distraught. Is she being unreasonable wanting to wear the necklace? Is her boyfriend being overly jealous and controlling? She always "cow-tows" to his wishes and always sees his point of view. I believe he is controlling and immature. Please advise! Thank you.
 

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