Topic : Teen Dating

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Created on : Thursday, June 30, 2005, 01:21:50 pm
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May 2, 2006, 11:53 am PDT

Dear "adhd Happy"

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Why is it that when a teen ask permison for something (even something totaly crazy) that parents refuse to give a reason??? I mean yes you are our parenst and you really don't have to explain yourself to us kids, but why not? would it be so bad to sit down and tell them why you feel that way, even if it does invole ending up in a weird converstaion? Becuase as a "troubled" 17 year old I don't see how you expect us to take the answer like an adult when you won't give us an adult answer. 


PLEASE HELP ANSWER THIS QUESTION 

I don't know the reason why a parent would refuse to explain their rational for refusing their child's request.
I know of some people who have the attitude of "because I said so, thats why.." but how much respect is that going to get you? (not much!)
I think that you are not asking too much when you ask for an explaination. As the mother of a teen, I enjoy taking the time to explain my rational, because then, she knows exactly where I stand and why. If she doesn't know how I feel about a certain issue or why I feel that way, how can she be expected to respect my views? Its my responsibility to create an open and honest environment.
Good question!
 
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May 3, 2006, 3:13 pm PDT

Teen Dating

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Why is it that when a teen ask permison for something (even something totaly crazy) that parents refuse to give a reason??? I mean yes you are our parenst and you really don't have to explain yourself to us kids, but why not? would it be so bad to sit down and tell them why you feel that way, even if it does invole ending up in a weird converstaion? Becuase as a "troubled" 17 year old I don't see how you expect us to take the answer like an adult when you won't give us an adult answer. 


PLEASE HELP ANSWER THIS QUESTION 

Thank you everyone. I'm glad to know that parents out their are willing to explain things to thier kids and not just blow them off. 

 

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May 7, 2006, 10:30 am PDT

Advice please

My daughter is 18 and in an interracial relationship - she is white, he black.  Without sounding racist - as I do not have a problem with any person of any race - in fact, I think that this young man is very nice, treats her well - but I do have a problem with the interracial thing.  Yes, I want to see her happy, but I also don't feel comfortable with the situation - AT ALL.  I know my immediate family (mother, father, sisters) would all be very judgmental and have some negative things to say about it if it came out (and it will sooner or later) and I won't know how to answer them - because I am not agreeable to it either.  I really don't know how to react to it.  She is living with me and says she doesn't care what anybody thinks - she's just gonna do what she wants anyway and what makes her happy.  But, do I have a right to say to her, No you can't date him because he's black and I don't like it?  I also see her blurb on my space.com and I hate everything about it - even though she is a beautiful white girl, she relates to everything black.  Do I tell her to change it all.  Do I want to - yes!  But, does this then make her more rebellious.  She's a great kid - gets very good grades, does well in school, does not drink or smoke or go out very much, no trouble.  When she does go out, she calls and is home at her curfew time.  She is 18, so do I have a right to tell her what she can and can't put on myspace.com.  Every time we get into a discussion - even remotely about the color issue - she gets very defensive.  It's like I can't even talk about it.    I have retorted to "I will respect your thoughts on it, but you need to respect mine too."  - but to what extent is there any respect for my feelings if she chooses to date him and bring it around me anyway?  Please - some advice as to how to deal with this and my family when the issue arises? 

 
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May 7, 2006, 11:26 am PDT

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My daughter is 18 and in an interracial relationship - she is white, he black.  Without sounding racist - as I do not have a problem with any person of any race - in fact, I think that this young man is very nice, treats her well - but I do have a problem with the interracial thing.  Yes, I want to see her happy, but I also don't feel comfortable with the situation - AT ALL.  I know my immediate family (mother, father, sisters) would all be very judgmental and have some negative things to say about it if it came out (and it will sooner or later) and I won't know how to answer them - because I am not agreeable to it either.  I really don't know how to react to it.  She is living with me and says she doesn't care what anybody thinks - she's just gonna do what she wants anyway and what makes her happy.  But, do I have a right to say to her, No you can't date him because he's black and I don't like it?  I also see her blurb on my space.com and I hate everything about it - even though she is a beautiful white girl, she relates to everything black.  Do I tell her to change it all.  Do I want to - yes!  But, does this then make her more rebellious.  She's a great kid - gets very good grades, does well in school, does not drink or smoke or go out very much, no trouble.  When she does go out, she calls and is home at her curfew time.  She is 18, so do I have a right to tell her what she can and can't put on myspace.com.  Every time we get into a discussion - even remotely about the color issue - she gets very defensive.  It's like I can't even talk about it.    I have retorted to "I will respect your thoughts on it, but you need to respect mine too."  - but to what extent is there any respect for my feelings if she chooses to date him and bring it around me anyway?  Please - some advice as to how to deal with this and my family when the issue arises? 

Interests are not "black" or "white". You cannot put races to things that she puts on myspace. Interests are interests. You and your immediate family need to smarten up and you need to accept things as they are. If your white daughter wants to date a black man, let her. Black, white, brown, it doesn't matter. We are all human. 

  

You need to stop feeling uncomfortable about the fact that your white daughter is going out with a black man. You say so yourself that he's a good person. "I do not have a problem with any person of any race - in fact, I think that this young man is very nice, treats her well." If he's black, he's black, it's not his fault and he has every right to date your daughter if they both love each other. 

  

Tell your family that racism will not be tolerated and that your daughter is allowed to date whoever she wants as long as he is a good person (black, white, it doesn't matter). Tell your family that if they are racist towards this young man and make negative comments, you will lose repect for them. This is not the slave days. Black people and white people have equal rights and are equal people and if they wan't to date interratially, let them! 

 
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May 7, 2006, 6:03 pm PDT

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My daughter is 18 and in an interracial relationship - she is white, he black.  Without sounding racist - as I do not have a problem with any person of any race - in fact, I think that this young man is very nice, treats her well - but I do have a problem with the interracial thing.  Yes, I want to see her happy, but I also don't feel comfortable with the situation - AT ALL.  I know my immediate family (mother, father, sisters) would all be very judgmental and have some negative things to say about it if it came out (and it will sooner or later) and I won't know how to answer them - because I am not agreeable to it either.  I really don't know how to react to it.  She is living with me and says she doesn't care what anybody thinks - she's just gonna do what she wants anyway and what makes her happy.  But, do I have a right to say to her, No you can't date him because he's black and I don't like it?  I also see her blurb on my space.com and I hate everything about it - even though she is a beautiful white girl, she relates to everything black.  Do I tell her to change it all.  Do I want to - yes!  But, does this then make her more rebellious.  She's a great kid - gets very good grades, does well in school, does not drink or smoke or go out very much, no trouble.  When she does go out, she calls and is home at her curfew time.  She is 18, so do I have a right to tell her what she can and can't put on myspace.com.  Every time we get into a discussion - even remotely about the color issue - she gets very defensive.  It's like I can't even talk about it.    I have retorted to "I will respect your thoughts on it, but you need to respect mine too."  - but to what extent is there any respect for my feelings if she chooses to date him and bring it around me anyway?  Please - some advice as to how to deal with this and my family when the issue arises? 

In all aspects of the word, you sound very racist.  What I'm reading from your post is that you basically don't have a problem with other races until they are personally affecting your life and your family.  What are your fears regarding a person with a different skin tone?  If you know that the boy comes from a solid background and is personally very loving and caring, kind, and respectful, what is your concern?   What feelings do you have exactly that you feel your daughter is disrespecting?  Why are you not agreeable to her dating men of other races?

Are you afraid to stand up to your family to support your daughter?  With this issue, you will have to face your fears regardless because she will always be your daughter and she is doing absolutely NOTHING wrong by dating interracially.  I applaud her for opening your eyes to the issue to make you more aware that regardless of the skin color, we are all the same.  How would you feel if she dated an native american, vietnamese, somalian, or indian?  Would your feelings be the same had she dated a caucasian even if they currently came from a different country?  What would make any of them different?  It appears you have many stereotypes that you need to face because if he's the one, or if she ends up marrying someone you don't approve of, you still will need to deal with it to ensure a solid relationship with your daughter for the rest of your life.

As for the myspace.com, since she is an adult, if you force her to change, she will only rebel.  Rather, point out the other cultures that she should also be researching as there are vast differences and if she truly wants to socially educate herself, she should not focus only only one specific culture but be open to learning the rest of them and embrace the differences.  It is truly awesome to learn about history and how cultures have changed through time and came to be what they're currently now known as.  Why limit yourself to learning only about one culture?  Challenge her on that aspect.  As a matter of fact, you both should do it together to paint a better picture with you as to who she is and what she wants out of life.  She's leaving a door wide open for you to enter, and I suggest you walk through that door now and embrace what she's trying to teach you, because I am quite sure she already knows how you feel.
 
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May 7, 2006, 7:33 pm PDT

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My daughter is 18 and in an interracial relationship - she is white, he black.  Without sounding racist - as I do not have a problem with any person of any race - in fact, I think that this young man is very nice, treats her well - but I do have a problem with the interracial thing.  Yes, I want to see her happy, but I also don't feel comfortable with the situation - AT ALL.  I know my immediate family (mother, father, sisters) would all be very judgmental and have some negative things to say about it if it came out (and it will sooner or later) and I won't know how to answer them - because I am not agreeable to it either.  I really don't know how to react to it.  She is living with me and says she doesn't care what anybody thinks - she's just gonna do what she wants anyway and what makes her happy.  But, do I have a right to say to her, No you can't date him because he's black and I don't like it?  I also see her blurb on my space.com and I hate everything about it - even though she is a beautiful white girl, she relates to everything black.  Do I tell her to change it all.  Do I want to - yes!  But, does this then make her more rebellious.  She's a great kid - gets very good grades, does well in school, does not drink or smoke or go out very much, no trouble.  When she does go out, she calls and is home at her curfew time.  She is 18, so do I have a right to tell her what she can and can't put on myspace.com.  Every time we get into a discussion - even remotely about the color issue - she gets very defensive.  It's like I can't even talk about it.    I have retorted to "I will respect your thoughts on it, but you need to respect mine too."  - but to what extent is there any respect for my feelings if she chooses to date him and bring it around me anyway?  Please - some advice as to how to deal with this and my family when the issue arises? 

Reading your post nearly brought tears to my eyes- do you realize how fortunate you are? Your daughter is a wonderful young woman, a person that you should be very proud of. There are so many parents of teens who don't know where their kids are, they worry that they are drinking or flunking school- so my first advice to you is this: be happy for what you have!
 It sounds like you are very concerned with what other people will think of you. When you put restrictions on a teen- especially unrealistic restrictions such as no dating people outside of your race- it is only going to make them dig their heels in harder and defy you. I say that it is an "unrealistic restriction" because how can you explain the rational as to why you don't want her dating outside of her race? You can explain why you don't want your teen drinking, why you don't want her to stay out late, and why you dont want her to flunk school... but how can you rationally explain why you don't approve of her dating outside of her race? You can't, because what it boils down to is this is about your own fears. You are not okay with her dating outside of her race because you are fearfull of what others will think of you. So you would rather be considered a racist than to be considered a mother who accepts that her daughter dates outside of her race.
You are fearfull of what other relatives will think/say/do when this comes out. Instead of being on their side and ganging up on your daughter with them, why can't you be supportive of her, and try to bring those negative relatives around? You have that choice.
 
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May 8, 2006, 10:29 am PDT

Twin dating his twin's ex

My son, Shawa2, is dating his brother's ex-girlfriend.  She was very aggressive with Shawa1, and he broke-up with her in DEC 2005.  Since JAN 2006, Shawa2 has been dating E-girl.  Before this girl arrived on the scene, Shawa2 was very outgoing, a good student, and in general a great teen to be around.   However, since E-girl, Shawa2 is moody, withdrawn, disobedient, and defiant.  He is 17 y/o, she is 15 y/o.  They attend the same school and church.  She is equally aggressive with Shawa2 by evidence of her notes and letters.  She calls our home late at night.  Her parents have been notified.  E-girl is aggrevating and frustrating me.  I don't want Shawa2 to lose his individuality because of this girl.  He has been fired from his job and kicked off Student Council because of his psychic change since connecting with E-girl.  His attitude is apathetic.  Before E-girl, Shawa2 had aspirations of being an attorney.  Since E-girl, he has decided to become an Agriculture Teacher in high school or maybe college.  Not a bad choice; our family has history in agriculture.  However, if she can influence him this much, then what's next?!  Maybe I'm just old fashioned by believing that the male element in a relationship is to be the aggressor.  And, I want my son to follow his dreams and aspirations before becoming tied-down to any girl.  I fear that she will use her wiles to entrap him by becoming pregnant.  And, Shawa2's relationship has changed with Shawa1.  Shawa2 often instigates arguements and physical fights for apparently no reason.  I'm sure they don't tell me all the reasons for the fights;  I can't help but wonder if E-girl is the source of the problem.  Any suggestions?!?
 
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May 9, 2006, 7:56 am PDT

Teen Dating

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My daughter is 18 and in an interracial relationship - she is white, he black.  Without sounding racist - as I do not have a problem with any person of any race - in fact, I think that this young man is very nice, treats her well - but I do have a problem with the interracial thing.  Yes, I want to see her happy, but I also don't feel comfortable with the situation - AT ALL.  I know my immediate family (mother, father, sisters) would all be very judgmental and have some negative things to say about it if it came out (and it will sooner or later) and I won't know how to answer them - because I am not agreeable to it either.  I really don't know how to react to it.  She is living with me and says she doesn't care what anybody thinks - she's just gonna do what she wants anyway and what makes her happy.  But, do I have a right to say to her, No you can't date him because he's black and I don't like it?  I also see her blurb on my space.com and I hate everything about it - even though she is a beautiful white girl, she relates to everything black.  Do I tell her to change it all.  Do I want to - yes!  But, does this then make her more rebellious.  She's a great kid - gets very good grades, does well in school, does not drink or smoke or go out very much, no trouble.  When she does go out, she calls and is home at her curfew time.  She is 18, so do I have a right to tell her what she can and can't put on myspace.com.  Every time we get into a discussion - even remotely about the color issue - she gets very defensive.  It's like I can't even talk about it.    I have retorted to "I will respect your thoughts on it, but you need to respect mine too."  - but to what extent is there any respect for my feelings if she chooses to date him and bring it around me anyway?  Please - some advice as to how to deal with this and my family when the issue arises? 

 You sound a little more worried about what your family will think rather than how happy and responsible your daughter is.  He doesn't beat her, abuse her, get her into drugs or anything like that.  Your problem is that his skin is black.   It is the same as saying that she can only date people w/blond hair, not red or brown.  Same thing.  You can't say that you aren't racist, and in the next sentence say that you have a problem w/the interracial thing.  Those are two very contradictory statements.  It sounds like you have one of the best daughters around, no smoking, no drugs, good grades, no drinking, home by curfew.  The only problem you can find is that your family, and yourself don't like people w/different color skin.  Forget the extended family.  If they say anything, tell them she is happy and leave it at that.  I guarantee you, if you push this issue w/her, you will lose her forever because this day and time, no one tolerates a racist.  Do you want to lose your daughter while making your family happy, or tell your family to shove their comments and keep your daughter?  Seems to me like those are you choices.
 
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May 14, 2006, 10:52 pm PDT

What are dating rules in your house?

My 15 yr old daughter (who looks like she's 25) has been constantly begging her father and I to allow her to date juniors and seniors at her school. I have to first say there is alot of baggage here - I'm the stepmom and dad didn't know she existed until she was 9 1/2 - so because of things in her past as well as other things, I talked Dad into allowing her to at least date one class up - in other words, sophomores - as well within her own class - freshman. It is a small school (around 500 students) and many of the students are actually younger than most (military overseas and kids can start earlier) in regular public schools. So b/c of many juniors just turning 16 (she will be 16 in Oct.) and that she failed 5th grade, her argument is that she should be allowed to date older boys. In my opinion that is an excuse - even when she failed she was put back in the grade where she was supposed to be had she not begun school overseas. Where she is very intelligent and mature one moment, she is just the opposite next. She is a normal teen but I keep wondering why she has to keep pressing the same issue? We have given her goals to achieve to at least put the matter on a bargining table for discussion and she refuses to live up to the goal (and they aren't unrealistic goals either), so what else can we do?    

   

She has been friendly with a boy at school over the past two weeks whom she swears she's not 'dating' - however, notes and statements she makes to us are saying something else altogether. We sat her down last night and explicitly let her know what would happen if we found out she had gone behind our back and was 'dating' this boy - she wouldn't be allowed to date, period. That it is about trust and honesty as well as the fact that it simply isn't appropriate, regardless of what she thinks. We both have told her what upperclassmen think about freshmen girls trying to 'hang' with the upperclassmen but she still feels as if she can handle herself and doesn't know why she's only attacted to juniors (it really is sometimes hard not to laugh though I do try to listen and talk to her openly without simply putting down her feelings).    

   

So, I'm just curious what other's do/think about this situation? Perhaps another point of view could help us...   

 
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May 16, 2006, 2:04 pm PDT

Thinks 18 is the magic number

I am new her folks, so please bear with me, thanks. Our daughter will be 18 in September. She has been exclusively dating John since October of 2005. He is a nice boy. We approve of this relationship. They both go to the same school, although John has failed a few times throughout his school years which unfortunatly leaves him in the 9th grade. Gina will be a Senior in 05-06. John has found out that if he goes to a different school that he will be able to jump grades, thus allowing him to be able graduate at 18 instead of 20!! They do not offer this at his school here, so he wants to go to another school (15) minutes away where they do this program.John lives with his dad, now he wants to live with mom and her boyfriend in another district which means he could attend that school. Gina wants to go live with John and his mom and her boyfriend and his sister in this other District. But because she will be a Senior, she can go to the school of her choice because she drives. She has chosen to stay in her present school and drive 15 minutes back and forth, meaning bad winter conditions since we live in the country. I expresses my concern, i was very sad. Gina has never been a problem, she is a good girl, she does well in school, and she and i have always gotten along real well. I can't even remember the last time she was disiplined, as she basically doesn't need it. Her argument is that she will be 18 in September and can move out if she wants. She is correct, i can not stop her should she decide to do this. We carry the insurance on her car, and she expects us to keep it up, she pays $40.00 a week towards it, as it is in our name. She also pays $8.00 per week for her cell phone, which is also in our name, which she expects to keep. That is not the point though, just an additional issue. I am so sad that she would want to do this. I suggested that she finish her schooling here with us, make visits to her boyfriend like she does now, then if all is well next year, think about moving then. I really need some advice, she is the sweetest kid and i never in a million years saw this one coming. My husband is beside himself and can't really talk about it without getting upset. It's only 4 months away. Please help.
 

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