Topic : Troubled Teens

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Created on : Thursday, June 30, 2005, 01:31:34 pm
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Is your teen headed down a path of self destruction with drugs, alcohol, eating disorders, self injury, depression, or problems with the law? Share advice and support with other parents of troubled teens.



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July 15, 2008, 1:20 pm PDT

Experience, Strength and Hope

In 1993 I was diagnosed with ADD, which was used to account for my incredibly disruptive and impulsive behavior both in and outside of school, but in my opinion it was a waste basket diagnosis.  As my behavior became more and more self-destructive my siblings began to resent the fact that the focus was always on me.  There achievements were barely noticed, as well as their failures, because I was in constant need of supervision.  I spent years in therapy thinking that if I could find out the one thing that I was freaked out about and deal with that one issue, then I would be okay.  The real answer to my problems wouldn’t come until many years later. 

My father, who was an alcoholic and drug addict, became more of a friend than a parental figure of authority and often times our relationship exploded in violence and emotional abuse towards one another.  By the time I was 12 I was drinking and smoking pot; in fact it was the summer between 5th and 6th grade that I became a regular pot smoker.  Unable to cope with my father’s drug abuse and dishonesty my mother asked for a divorce furthering the inevitable destruction of our family.  By the time 8th grade had ended I had logged hundreds of hours of suspension and had been arrested twice; my parents knew that returning to a public school was not an option and began looking for alternatives.  Through word-of-mouth they came into contact with a small boarding school in Maine called the Hyde School. 

I was accepted to the Hyde school in the spring of 1996 and would attend the Summer Challenge Program, which is a prerequisite to acceptance in the fall, a sort of trial period if you will.  To say the least, the summer was a disaster.  In many ways it was a continuation of the problems that I had in public school; however the level of accountability had been raised.  12 years old, I felt like my mother and father had abandoned me, but in reality it was my first real opportunity to do something different in an environment that truly supported me.  I use the words “reality” and “felt” a lot because I learned from a very early age that I rarely deal with reality, but the feelings that are associated with the way I perceive reality.  I also learned, partially from my father, that if I wasn’t enjoying the way I felt that it was okay to take something to alleviate that feeling.  My family was falling apart and I felt like I was the reason.

On July 5, 1996 at approximately 11 AM, I was called into the Dean of Students office.  When I was called in I immediately noticed that my mother and older brother were sitting there crying.  I was on 2-4, which was Hyde’ form of correction, and I figured that I had been successful in being kicked out and that’s why everyone was so upset.  The truth was far worse and something that no kid ever expects.  My mother sat me down and said, “Your father died yesterday; he took his own life.”  Never in my life had I felt so much pain, so much anger.  I blamed my mother for divorcing him and I blamed myself for not measuring up to what I thought he wanted for me.  Years later I would learn that my father was suffering from untreated alcoholism and was therefore really sick and in the grips of progressive illness. 

I coped with the loss of my father, the distance between my mother and I, and the anger my brothers felt towards me with drugs and alcohol.  Far from being readily available on the Hyde campus, I turned to less conventional methods like huffing and snorting household chemicals.  Drinking Listerine or huffing Dust Off or Glade worked really well, although at the time I was completely unaware of how dangerous it was.  I suppose that even if I had known how dangerous it was it wouldn’t have made a difference.  I am certain, more now than ever, that if Hyde hadn’t have had a family proponent to its curriculum that my family would be in shambles today.  However, that is not the case and today I am closer with my family than ever before.  The notion that Hyde was different than anything I had ever experienced began during my initial interview with three simple questions – Who am I? Where am I going with my life? And most importantly, how do I get there?  It should be obvious that these questions are basic and logical to ask, but never the less were absolutely essential in establishing the dynamics and issues to my family.  These would be questions that I would carry through the rest of my life, constantly reevaluating, and learning to improve upon.

The Hyde School was founded by Joseph Gauld under the tenet that “Every individual is gifted with a unique potential that defines a destiny,” and is guided by five words – Courage, Integrity, Leadership, Curiosity and Concern.  For the first time in my life I was surrounded by a group of peers and faculty that focused on my strengths and potential rather than my deficits and disorders.  This annoyed me to no end!  I had grown accustomed to keeping everyone’s expectations of me in the dirt, so that when I failed at life, no one was surprised.  In other words, keep them disappointed.  It was the framework for a life built to fail, which through the Hyde program I was able to successfully dismantle, although some of that work happened after graduating from Hyde in 2000.

Built into the educational philosophy and reflected in the required family commitment at Hyde is the concept that the family is a system, a completely foreign notion to my family.  We learned that each member of the family creates and is impacted by the systems dynamics.  As Don MacMillan, faculty and Harvard graduate put it:

                Further, the family system, as it pertains to the Hyde philosophy, is multigenerational.  Parents will likely need to examine their own relationship with their own parents to effect change in their current family dynamics.  While recognizing that the student and parent(s) are members of a family, the primary emphasis at Hyde is for each individual to strive to understand his or her position in that system, and then to pursue growth by altering his or her unproductive behaviors , attitudes, roles, or beliefs.  Experience has demonstrated over the years that a student’s success and growth is linked to that parent’s growth.

This became the absolute truth in my family.  When I realized that my mother was also working on herself in terms of the aforementioned areas, I began to look at my role in the family.  Slowly I stopped acting out and began pursuing the question that had piqued my curiosity two years earlier, “Who am I??”  The rampant drug and alcohol abuse began to diminish as my mother addressed her own problems with alcohol.  Both my older and younger brothers came to Hyde and we each graduated two years apart.  I often relate my experience at Hyde like this – My family was like a vase that had been dropped off a second story building.  Nothing was going to stop the vase from hitting the ground and shattering into a million pieces.  However, just when all hope was lost of ever putting it back together, the Hyde School led us to see that the original vase was shot through with pain, suffering, and anger and was essentially useless to begin with.  We took the pieces that seemed best fit for our family dynamic and over the years, began putting it back together, one carefully chosen piece at a time.

My brothers and I all went on to college and learned to live life not as we would have it, but as it is delivered to us.  I work for the Hyde school as an admissions consultant to prospective families in the southwest and I often ask a parent one question, “Has anything you’ve done, up to this point in your life any easier?”  For the teens that I work with it is much simpler, “Are they happy about there existence and where there life is headed?”  The answer I often get is, “No, but…”  Every change I have ever made began with the notion that something could be different.  I didn’t have to know what it would feel like or what the change would look like, but just the idea that it could be different was more than sufficient for me to make a beginning.

I wish to dedicate my life to families that could be restored if only they had someone who has been there to guide them.  I am not a scholar.  I am not what I would consider to be an intellectual.  I am a democrat, but have no real political agenda.  I am a recovered alcoholic, in fact I come from an alcoholic family; the disease that claimed my father’s life.  I am a Christian, but don’t know nearly enough about the Bible.  I am far from perfect and make just enough mistakes to be human.  I would consider myself your typical, everyday, normal guy.  All I offer is the truth that is filtered through my experience as a husband, father, brother, and son.  Hyde neatly laid a tool kit at my feet that I have carried throughout my life and despite all the difficulties that my family and I have faced since leaving Hyde, we have been able to walk through them with grace and dignity.

 
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August 5, 2008, 4:12 am PDT

Troubled Teen Grandson

I have a troubled teenage grandson.   He is defiant in 'every' way.  He believes that he can do whatever he wants and pretty much whenever he wants.  His grades were fairly good in school but then they started falling.  He is in activities that he likes, such as football, etc.  There is no real family structure, as his mother works most of the time.  His age is 14.  His step father works most of the time also, so there is not much "family" time in the home.  I guess what I am wondering is what can be done and how can he be taught some rules to get him on the "right track"?  Punishment does not faze him.  He will throw a fit and take the punishment and then in a day or two he has done some terrible thing again.  He has been grounded for smoking or for being someplace that he was not suppose to be.....but he does it all over again as soon as he can.  Sometimes the punishment is very severe and lasts up to 3 months but most of the time it is less than that and he still does these things.
 
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August 5, 2008, 7:02 am PDT

troubled grandson 14 y.o.

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I have a troubled teenage grandson.   He is defiant in 'every' way.  He believes that he can do whatever he wants and pretty much whenever he wants.  His grades were fairly good in school but then they started falling.  He is in activities that he likes, such as football, etc.  There is no real family structure, as his mother works most of the time.  His age is 14.  His step father works most of the time also, so there is not much "family" time in the home.  I guess what I am wondering is what can be done and how can he be taught some rules to get him on the "right track"?  Punishment does not faze him.  He will throw a fit and take the punishment and then in a day or two he has done some terrible thing again.  He has been grounded for smoking or for being someplace that he was not suppose to be.....but he does it all over again as soon as he can.  Sometimes the punishment is very severe and lasts up to 3 months but most of the time it is less than that and he still does these things.

Most of the things one might try with a troubled teen won't work well here because his parents really aren't available at home much to provide support and supervision.  As far as "how can he be taught some rules to get him on the "right track"?", he already knows "the rules" ... he just doesn't care about following them because they bring no near-term reward, especially versus his current freedoms and "pleasures".  And I'd bet there is more negative he is doing you haven't mentioned, or perhaps may not realize.

 

I think he needs to be involved with some positive youth group and youth activities, even if he doesn't want to at first.  This should put him with some positive adult role-models and engage him with peers in positive activities.  In time, he should realize the better road and follow it.  Exactly what options are available will vary by community, but a local youth services agency should have some information and advice. 

 

You are right to be comcerned.  If positive action to correct things isn't started now, his behavior probably will get worse, eventually leading to trouble with "the law".  But that can all be turned around with a good local youth program.  The only added thing is being sure his parents are attuned to what the youth group (and its counselor) is doing.

 
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August 9, 2008, 10:03 pm PDT

brother in trouble

 ok. so i'm not a parent but i'm a concerned sister. My brother is 18 and my family knows he does pot regularly because he has openly admitted it (i guess he sees nothing wrong with it) and now we believe he may be doing cocaine. we don't know though. He hangs out with the completly wrong people and when he had 3 months until he graduated high school everythng went down hill and he stopped going to school and wouldnt come home for days, no calls, nothing. For a while he had a job but he would oversleep and miss work. Then his friends and him got into trouble with friends and stolen items were involved which he claims he didnt know they were stolen but anyways, he went to jail for one night because he had a small part in the crime and my parents had to pay $1000 for his bail. Since then (about 4 months ago) he has not had another job. He is still rarely home and had started stealing from everyone in the house which consists of me, my 21 year old brother and my parents. He's stolen jewlery, alcohol, and random items that he can pawn. He got kicked out once but my mom invited him back home after 2 weeks cause she couldn't cope. I had a sister that was 26 and died of drugs and alcohol and i just don't want it to happen again. I don't know what to do to help and i don't think my parents do either. I'm afraid if they kick him out again it will only get worse for him. I have 2 sisters but neither are at home because they went to college and moved away. My brother and dad want nothing to do with him and my mom doesn't know how to help because she's fearful of loosing another child. I'm only 16 and i am the closest person he has but im still only his baby sister and i coubt he'd listen to me. What do i (we) do?? I suggested we go on the show but idk if my parents would go for that....
 
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August 17, 2008, 7:03 am PDT

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hi, this time the massage is from the teen itself. i consider myself as a very intelligent and bright kid. I usally have good grades and I have good contact with randoms and friends at school. But I put on this fake smile. I feel like i have to be normal and smiling. it also feels better when Im pretending. my current age is 15, but i've had these problems since i was about 13. it started with outbreaks and fights between me and my parents, and it just continued. but some where among the time, my parents stopped talking to me. I feel like Im still disappointing them of some reason. we have this depressing sillence, when somethings happends (usally my fault) I run away. I escape from my problems cuz my parents only yell. it hurts bad to be yelled at and being punished when all you want is help. i've been involved with serious things the last year, and my parents haven't ever given me a reason to be good, because I feel like the damage is already done, and the scars will always be there. I have laughs with my parents, i go shopping with my mum. I know they want my best and I know i shouldnt do the things I do, but i feel so tired, so burnt out. i just wanna rest, but I dont know how. I even started cying when I read the dialog about "how good do you know your teenager?" cuz I know my parents dont know those things about me, they can always guess, but they have never had the interest to sit down and have a normal, adult conversation with me. and upon that, I think they are about to divorce. my mum has a lack of sosial intelligence, it seems like she doesnt know when to take contact, and I know she loves me, but she doesnt take any warnings seriously until its too late. my father tries his best, but we're not really getting along, and he can be very aggressive, eventhough he is a nice man with good reputation and self-respect. they tell me Not to do things, but they dont tell me to do things how i should. Im just completely tired out and I feel like breaking down again, I dont think so, but I hope it will pass. I dont want go down that black hole.
 
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August 25, 2008, 5:44 pm PDT

how can we help?

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hi, this time the massage is from the teen itself. i consider myself as a very intelligent and bright kid. I usally have good grades and I have good contact with randoms and friends at school. But I put on this fake smile. I feel like i have to be normal and smiling. it also feels better when Im pretending. my current age is 15, but i've had these problems since i was about 13. it started with outbreaks and fights between me and my parents, and it just continued. but some where among the time, my parents stopped talking to me. I feel like Im still disappointing them of some reason. we have this depressing sillence, when somethings happends (usally my fault) I run away. I escape from my problems cuz my parents only yell. it hurts bad to be yelled at and being punished when all you want is help. i've been involved with serious things the last year, and my parents haven't ever given me a reason to be good, because I feel like the damage is already done, and the scars will always be there. I have laughs with my parents, i go shopping with my mum. I know they want my best and I know i shouldnt do the things I do, but i feel so tired, so burnt out. i just wanna rest, but I dont know how. I even started cying when I read the dialog about "how good do you know your teenager?" cuz I know my parents dont know those things about me, they can always guess, but they have never had the interest to sit down and have a normal, adult conversation with me. and upon that, I think they are about to divorce. my mum has a lack of sosial intelligence, it seems like she doesnt know when to take contact, and I know she loves me, but she doesnt take any warnings seriously until its too late. my father tries his best, but we're not really getting along, and he can be very aggressive, eventhough he is a nice man with good reputation and self-respect. they tell me Not to do things, but they dont tell me to do things how i should. Im just completely tired out and I feel like breaking down again, I dont think so, but I hope it will pass. I dont want go down that black hole.
you sound so much like my 15 year old son,and his father and I,khow your parents love you just we I love our son,we just don't know how to help you.We are confused as you are,we try and everything seems to be worse,please help us help you...I cried when I read this,I know you are in pain,just as I know my son is in pain,believe me when I say we as parents don't always get it either.Any advise you can give on how to help you and my son will be so appreciated.Just be the best you can be no matter what is going on around you,don't let anything take away from you what you can become.
 
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August 26, 2008, 1:23 pm PDT

i understand

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you sound so much like my 15 year old son,and his father and I,khow your parents love you just we I love our son,we just don't know how to help you.We are confused as you are,we try and everything seems to be worse,please help us help you...I cried when I read this,I know you are in pain,just as I know my son is in pain,believe me when I say we as parents don't always get it either.Any advise you can give on how to help you and my son will be so appreciated.Just be the best you can be no matter what is going on around you,don't let anything take away from you what you can become.
Dear Sheila, I understand exactly how you feel.  I am 45 yrs old now, but 30 yrs ago, I was you.  I was extremely shy, and making friends was next to impossible for me.  My family was socially prominent in our town, and I never felt like I fit in with them.  At that time, life was miserable for me.  My little sister was the pretty one, the smart one, the athletic one, and the apple of our father's eye.  No one really understood me.  My father and I couldn't be in the same room with each other without fighting.  I had 1 or 2 friends at school, but they weren't even really good friends.  I want to let you know that things can and will get better.  Your parents do love you, and they probably don't know how to help you and that can be very frustrating for them.  I suggest that you take matters into your own hands.  I really think that you need counseling.  Instead of waiting for them to realize this, do a little research on your own.  Often, your school will offering counseling services.  If this isn't an option, check and see if your town has a mental health clinic.  Often, these types of clinics charge on a sliding fee, so that if your family doesn't have medical insurance, they will work with you.  Once you have this information together, go to your parents.  Let them know that you need help and you have found a place that you can get the help that you need.  When we are kids, we think that parents should have all the answers, but sometimes, we are just as confused and scared as you are.  I hope that this advice helps you.  I went into counseling when I was your age.  After dropping out of school in the tenth grade, I went back and graduated with honors.  I graduated from college, and pursued my love of singing and acting.  I am now married, with teenagers of my own.  You can get through these difficult years.  Take an active role in helping yourself now!  It will make you stronger now, and it will show you that you can accomplish what you really set your mind to.
 
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August 26, 2008, 1:38 pm PDT

Love and Logic

Love and Logic is a parenting method that encourages choices and teaches that through our choices we choose our own consequences (whether good or bad) as well.  When they are young, give your children choices for lots of things from what to wear that day to who's house to go play at after school.  At the end of the day, discuss with them their choices and how that effected their day.  For example: Your child is being disobedient.  Tell them they have a choice to obey or disobey.  If they choose to disobey, give them a negative consequence (time-out or the like).  After the consequence is satisfied, make sure they know you love them, but ask them to tell you what happened.  This way they know how they chose their own outcome.  --from Ron
 

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