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Is your teen headed down a path of self destruction with drugs, alcohol, eating disorders, self injury, depression, or problems with the law? Share advice and support with other parents of troubled teens.

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September 19, 2006, 7:06 pm PDT

Troubled Teens

my daughter is 15 and has been doing the cutting, waiting to get her into counselling, we know that it started from bullying, and got that under control, but sometimes she still does it, usually to take away the pain from other things that bother her. this year she started high school, and decided skipping school is the cool thing to do. She has only been at the new school for just over a week now, and I have gotten 4 calls saying she missed classes. she has run away twice now, walked around all night long, at least that is what she tells us. and we found her at the park the next day hiding in the bushes, which we has searched the night before.  Now she decided that she isn't coming home after school, I am still waiting for her to come home now and it is 8pm,  she won't tell me who her friends are so i dont even know where to look for her. She has admitted that she sometimes takes off to the big mall her and hangs with her friends. I have to small children and can't go traipsing through that damn mall it is too big to look for her. I can;'t deal with this, its too much on my plate. I feel like just giving up and running away myself from all this crap. her dad came over and we talked to her for 2 hours last night to find out what was wrong, she never came clean, we asked lots of questions we got nowhere, and today, she skipped class again and didn't bother to come home or phone to let me know she is ok. what do I do? How do I help this child?
 
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September 20, 2006, 6:07 am PDT

Troubled Teens

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my daughter is 15 and has been doing the cutting, waiting to get her into counselling, we know that it started from bullying, and got that under control, but sometimes she still does it, usually to take away the pain from other things that bother her. this year she started high school, and decided skipping school is the cool thing to do. She has only been at the new school for just over a week now, and I have gotten 4 calls saying she missed classes. she has run away twice now, walked around all night long, at least that is what she tells us. and we found her at the park the next day hiding in the bushes, which we has searched the night before.  Now she decided that she isn't coming home after school, I am still waiting for her to come home now and it is 8pm,  she won't tell me who her friends are so i dont even know where to look for her. She has admitted that she sometimes takes off to the big mall her and hangs with her friends. I have to small children and can't go traipsing through that damn mall it is too big to look for her. I can;'t deal with this, its too much on my plate. I feel like just giving up and running away myself from all this crap. her dad came over and we talked to her for 2 hours last night to find out what was wrong, she never came clean, we asked lots of questions we got nowhere, and today, she skipped class again and didn't bother to come home or phone to let me know she is ok. what do I do? How do I help this child?
Well she finally came home at 1:30 am on a school night, told her she was getting up with me in the morning and coming to work with me, then I would take her to school and someone would be there to pick her up after school, and If she wasnt there then I will make other arrangements to make sure she is in school and come home each day, i took her keys to the house and her bedroom, needless to say she doesn't like what I had to say and started throwing things around her room,  which I had to deal with before she woke up the smaller kids. She finally went to sleep but not without alot of temper and mouthyness.
 
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September 20, 2006, 1:45 pm PDT

Self-Injury

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my daughter is 15 and has been doing the cutting, waiting to get her into counselling, we know that it started from bullying, and got that under control, but sometimes she still does it, usually to take away the pain from other things that bother her. this year she started high school, and decided skipping school is the cool thing to do. She has only been at the new school for just over a week now, and I have gotten 4 calls saying she missed classes. she has run away twice now, walked around all night long, at least that is what she tells us. and we found her at the park the next day hiding in the bushes, which we has searched the night before.  Now she decided that she isn't coming home after school, I am still waiting for her to come home now and it is 8pm,  she won't tell me who her friends are so i dont even know where to look for her. She has admitted that she sometimes takes off to the big mall her and hangs with her friends. I have to small children and can't go traipsing through that damn mall it is too big to look for her. I can;'t deal with this, its too much on my plate. I feel like just giving up and running away myself from all this crap. her dad came over and we talked to her for 2 hours last night to find out what was wrong, she never came clean, we asked lots of questions we got nowhere, and today, she skipped class again and didn't bother to come home or phone to let me know she is ok. what do I do? How do I help this child?
I have suffered with self-injury for three years now. It is a very real addiction. Through two therapists and over five medications, I still haven't fully gotten over it. It will take maturity, help from others, and time. Good luck with your daughter. I hope she gets well soon.
 
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September 20, 2006, 8:07 pm PDT

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my daughter is 15 and has been doing the cutting, waiting to get her into counselling, we know that it started from bullying, and got that under control, but sometimes she still does it, usually to take away the pain from other things that bother her. this year she started high school, and decided skipping school is the cool thing to do. She has only been at the new school for just over a week now, and I have gotten 4 calls saying she missed classes. she has run away twice now, walked around all night long, at least that is what she tells us. and we found her at the park the next day hiding in the bushes, which we has searched the night before.  Now she decided that she isn't coming home after school, I am still waiting for her to come home now and it is 8pm,  she won't tell me who her friends are so i dont even know where to look for her. She has admitted that she sometimes takes off to the big mall her and hangs with her friends. I have to small children and can't go traipsing through that damn mall it is too big to look for her. I can;'t deal with this, its too much on my plate. I feel like just giving up and running away myself from all this crap. her dad came over and we talked to her for 2 hours last night to find out what was wrong, she never came clean, we asked lots of questions we got nowhere, and today, she skipped class again and didn't bother to come home or phone to let me know she is ok. what do I do? How do I help this child?
I know that this is difficult-- your daughter’s cutting is a serious matter, and her attitude about school, being gone for hours without you knowing where she is, and the fact that she won’t tell you who her friends are, those are also all very serious matters. You said that you are waiting to get her into counseling, how much longer of a wait? I urge you to speed up the process, if at all possible. Most agencies will speed up the process if they are told the person is injuring themselves, which your daughter does from time to time.
I know that it is frustrating, and I understand that feeling of wanting to just run away- but you are the strongest female role model that she has, and you must show her a good example. Even when you are feeling weak, you need to put on a strong façade. You have a choice to make: either allow your daughter to run her own life into the ground, OR, take over control and guide (or rather, force) her towards a healthy, happy life. She isn’t going to go willingly, of course- that is why I also recommend therapy for you. You need a professional to talk to, someone to bounce ideas off of, and someone to vent to who will give you honest feedback and advice. Your actions at this point literally control your daughter’s destiny. So, giving up is not an option- because I know, as a mother of a previous cutter myself, you want the best for your children. You want them to have better than you had, and you are going to be faced with obstacles. What you do about those obstacles is the key- and that is also where the professional guidance comes in. You need to set clear rules for her- no more mall, if she wants to hang out with friends, you need to meet these friends first- have them shake your hand and look them in the eye- ask them about themselves; where are you from? How long have you lived here? General conversation type things- this gives these kids the idea that you CARE, and then, they might actually want to hang out at your home….which would be awesome because then you will know where your daughter is! Whenever possible, let your daughter know in a calm, clear voice that as her mother, your job is to be sure that she is always healthy, safe, and happy. In that order! I know this is difficult. You need all the support you can get, don’t be afraid to ask for it.
 
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September 21, 2006, 9:54 pm PDT

Sexually Vulgar/Lying/Manipulative 16 yr old

Our 16 yr old is a habitual liar as well as a professional manipulator along with being sexually vulgar!  She is a beautiful sweet girl who has for years been lying not just to her parents but to friends and anyone else that stands in her way of getting what she wants. She has most recently taken pornographic pictures of herself and sent them via her phone to a 19 yr. old in another state as well as to her lesbian boss where she works. We have known for years that she has like boys from another race but recently in the past year found out that she has been sexually active with girls as well.  Her mother and father divorced when she was two.  Her mother remarried immediately and she lived with her mother and stepfather till she was twelve and then her father and I got custody of her when she was twelve. She has lived with us for four years.  She shows no emotion except when she wants her way and then she can provide tears immediately.  She shows no regret or signs of having remorse for anything she has done.  She has been having sex (that we are aware of) since she was twelve. Her mother and stepfather being an alcoholic is the main reason she came to live with us.  She has told us as well as shown us that she has no respect for anyone and cares nothing about anyone unless she needs to use them for a period of time to get what she wants. She has said that her uncle molested her before coming to live with us but are not sure now if that is true or not due to circumstances of her destructive lies.  Recently she went to go live with her mother this past summer before six months has passed her mother kicked her out and she came back to live with us. She has nearly lost all of her friends and now her family. Noone can talk to her nor reason with her.  We have spent hours upon hours trying to talk with her.  She was sent to a Christian counselor several years ago after she told of the molestation by her Uncle.  She out-manipulated the counselor.  There is no known drug or alcohol problems and her grades seem to be normal. PLEASE HELP!!

 
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September 22, 2006, 8:25 pm PDT

Special High School Teens Headed For Trouble

I am a substitute teacher and have had the luxury of being able to teach at the elementary school and high school I attended.  We live in a very small community and I think we have a really awesome faculty at both the elementary school and high school.  Both have the philosophy of positive discipline.  At this point, we have not had much trouble with drugs or weapons at school.  It makes me very proud to see that a public school system is still doing things right. 

 

Unfortunately, I ended up teaching ten children at the high school this week, who cannot function in "main stream" high school.  Although they are part of the local high school and on that campus, they are considered a form of continuation school.  These students are freshmen and sophomores.  The first day of my assignment, I met with the teacher and he had a list of everyone in the class and an explanation to let me know what their personalities and special learning needs were, as well as excuses for their behavior.  He told me that I had to be very careful with these students because they needed special attention and not to step on their toes.  What I came to find out during the week is that this group of kids were "wagging the dog"!  Everyday the kids would come to class whenever they felt like it and then would start just doing whatever they wanted to.  They were just bodies taking up space in the classroom and that was about all .  Two girls had special chairs and blankets and slept all day.  Two other girls used their laptops to communicate through instant messaging with friends and to listen music.  There were several boys who would use their laptops to play computer games all day long.  One boy sat in the corner building model airplanes all day, asking me to read the directions to him, because he couldn't understand simple directions.  When I would ask them to do their work, these kids would become extremely agitated and tell me that their teacher would never treat them this way.  I thought to myself "what way? making them do their school work?"  The instructions that the teacher left with me told me that he allowed them to eat in class, walk out of the class any time they thought they needed a break, swear in class and that I was only supposed to gently encourage them to do their school work.  There was one 45 minute time period of structured time everyday, where they were supposed to listen to a book on tape.  During this time the students were to turn off their computers, put their headphones away and be quiet and listen.  That was the only requirement of structure in the whole six hours.   By the third day, allowing these students to speak to me, each other and any visitor who came into the classroom disrespectfully and rudely, using four letter words, I had all I could take.  I went to the principle and told him that I would finish out the week, but I would not return to teach this group of students again (the teacher was out for surgery and was supposed to be gone for six weeks).

 

Now I feel bad and a little guilty and possibly like I am abandoning these kids.  For the past four years, I have been the most popular substitute teacher at these schools, with a philosophy of my own that some of these kids need to have positive words and reinforcement for things they have done right, because it might be all the positive feedback they get for that day.  I always try and lead with a positive example, I don't get into power struggles with students and I always try really hard to reach each and every one of the students.  Now I have given up on this group of ten.  The attitude of the teacher and the principle is that they get paid for these kids to be at school, so they don't care what they do, as long as they show up.  They don't have to follow the rules that the rest of the campus has to follow and I am told they will always be in special school, which is the equivalent of continuation.  I feel that the school is not doing these kids any favors, these kids will never learn to function in the "real world."  They will always feel that they are owed something and that they don't have to follow the rules that everyone else had to follow.  It frustrates me that a school would rather have the money for these children rather than trying to work with these kids to help them academically as well as how to follow rules.  I have never seen teen aged children who behaved the way these kids do. 

 

What should I do?  Should I return and substitute again in this class?  If I do go back, how can I reach these students in a positive way?  I feel that if I give up on them, I am just one more adult that reinforces that they are "bad people" and that they don't deserve anything good in their lives.  I know they already look at themselves as losers and if I don't go back, the administration and teacher will only reinforce that to them, by telling them that I won't return because they are horrible.  I want to see the administration and teacher take some responsibility for these kids!  These kids deserve to be educated, no just counted on for the money they bring in to the school.

 
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September 25, 2006, 8:51 pm PDT

Children with ADD/ADHD

I am a mom with a child that has ADD. He was diagnosed with this in his 4th grade year and is now in 8th grade. It has been a struggle every year to get him through school. Since being diagnosed with ADD he has been on medication called Concerta. Here as of late I have really been second guessing myself about the medication. Seems to me that if the medication was doing what it is suppose to do, my son would not still be struggling in school every year for 4 years. I have really been doing some research about ADD children and it seems that every place I go on the World Wide Web, it speaks against medicating our children. What am I to do though when I can't get the school system to work with me and my husband says without it, my son would not be doing anything. Should I take him off the medication or leave him on it? I am so confused about ADD period and how to make the school system help my son with this learning disabilty? Anyone that is going through similar problems or has been through it and can give a little insight would be very much appreciated. Thank you.
 
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September 25, 2006, 9:13 pm PDT

Troubled Teens

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I am a substitute teacher and have had the luxury of being able to teach at the elementary school and high school I attended.  We live in a very small community and I think we have a really awesome faculty at both the elementary school and high school.  Both have the philosophy of positive discipline.  At this point, we have not had much trouble with drugs or weapons at school.  It makes me very proud to see that a public school system is still doing things right. 

 

Unfortunately, I ended up teaching ten children at the high school this week, who cannot function in "main stream" high school.  Although they are part of the local high school and on that campus, they are considered a form of continuation school.  These students are freshmen and sophomores.  The first day of my assignment, I met with the teacher and he had a list of everyone in the class and an explanation to let me know what their personalities and special learning needs were, as well as excuses for their behavior.  He told me that I had to be very careful with these students because they needed special attention and not to step on their toes.  What I came to find out during the week is that this group of kids were "wagging the dog"!  Everyday the kids would come to class whenever they felt like it and then would start just doing whatever they wanted to.  They were just bodies taking up space in the classroom and that was about all .  Two girls had special chairs and blankets and slept all day.  Two other girls used their laptops to communicate through instant messaging with friends and to listen music.  There were several boys who would use their laptops to play computer games all day long.  One boy sat in the corner building model airplanes all day, asking me to read the directions to him, because he couldn't understand simple directions.  When I would ask them to do their work, these kids would become extremely agitated and tell me that their teacher would never treat them this way.  I thought to myself "what way? making them do their school work?"  The instructions that the teacher left with me told me that he allowed them to eat in class, walk out of the class any time they thought they needed a break, swear in class and that I was only supposed to gently encourage them to do their school work.  There was one 45 minute time period of structured time everyday, where they were supposed to listen to a book on tape.  During this time the students were to turn off their computers, put their headphones away and be quiet and listen.  That was the only requirement of structure in the whole six hours.   By the third day, allowing these students to speak to me, each other and any visitor who came into the classroom disrespectfully and rudely, using four letter words, I had all I could take.  I went to the principle and told him that I would finish out the week, but I would not return to teach this group of students again (the teacher was out for surgery and was supposed to be gone for six weeks).

 

Now I feel bad and a little guilty and possibly like I am abandoning these kids.  For the past four years, I have been the most popular substitute teacher at these schools, with a philosophy of my own that some of these kids need to have positive words and reinforcement for things they have done right, because it might be all the positive feedback they get for that day.  I always try and lead with a positive example, I don't get into power struggles with students and I always try really hard to reach each and every one of the students.  Now I have given up on this group of ten.  The attitude of the teacher and the principle is that they get paid for these kids to be at school, so they don't care what they do, as long as they show up.  They don't have to follow the rules that the rest of the campus has to follow and I am told they will always be in special school, which is the equivalent of continuation.  I feel that the school is not doing these kids any favors, these kids will never learn to function in the "real world."  They will always feel that they are owed something and that they don't have to follow the rules that everyone else had to follow.  It frustrates me that a school would rather have the money for these children rather than trying to work with these kids to help them academically as well as how to follow rules.  I have never seen teen aged children who behaved the way these kids do. 

 

What should I do?  Should I return and substitute again in this class?  If I do go back, how can I reach these students in a positive way?  I feel that if I give up on them, I am just one more adult that reinforces that they are "bad people" and that they don't deserve anything good in their lives.  I know they already look at themselves as losers and if I don't go back, the administration and teacher will only reinforce that to them, by telling them that I won't return because they are horrible.  I want to see the administration and teacher take some responsibility for these kids!  These kids deserve to be educated, no just counted on for the money they bring in to the school.

I have to ask, do these kids have ADD/ADHD or what? As a mother with an ADD child, I have seen many of the school staff throw my son to the side because he was not an easy child to teach. He has a learning disability and needs special help. All he wants is a teacher to take a minute out of their day and show him something that other kids get right away. Children with ADD/ADHD have a little more special needs than other children. They need their classrooms to be exciting and energetic. They need to feel needed in the class and it needs to be fun for them. Although I do not feel these kids need to be playing on their laptop, taking naps, listening to music. I do feel that they need a structured class room that teaches, but also is fun for them to learn. So many of our school systems have given up on our kids that have special needs so the kids react just as these kids are. Sure, there need to be guidelines and there needs to be structure, but most kids with learning disabilities have to have structure with a lot of support. In my personal opinion, if you walk away from these kids, no they won't show they care because they feel as though no one cares for them, but then you will be the same as all those other teachers out there that just think if you let them have their way, they will be ok. There is a web sight that I have been to more and more since my son is in Middle School. These are somethings that kids with ADD/ADHD would like for teachers to know:

1) I really do forget things, I am not trying to be smart, sassy or arrogant, I simply do not always remember. The myth that if it is important enough I will remember it is just that, a myth.

2) I am not stupid.,

3) I really do complete my homework. It is easy for me to lose papers, leave them at home and otherwise not be able to find my homework at the proper time. Completing homework in a notebook is much easier for me as it will not get lost as easily. Loose papers are difficult for me to keep track of. (Once my mother found my homework in the bread drawer after I had left for school!)

4) If I ask the same question over or ask many questions, it is not out of arrogance. I am trying hard to understand, comprehend and remember what you have said.

Please be patient and help me.

5) I want to do good. I have struggled with schoolwork for many years and it is frustrating to me. My goal is to do my best and pass this class with flying colors.

6) ADD is not an excuseADD really does exist and it does affect my thinking process. I would like to be "normal" and be able to remember and process information quickly, I do not enjoy being "different" and made fun of for my differences.

7) I need your help to succeed. It isn't always easy for me to ask for help and sometimes asking makes me feel stupid. Please be patient with my attempts and offer your help.

8) Please be sure to talk with me in private about behaviors or actions that may not be appropriate. Please do not humiliate me, insult me, or call attention to my weaknesses in front of the class.

9) I do better with a detailed plan and knowing what you expect. If you should change plans in the middle to adapt to some outside influence, please help me to adapt. It may take me longer to adjust to the changes. Structure and guidance are my best allies.

10) I don't like having "special accomodations." Please do not draw attention to them and help me to succeed with the least amount of attention drawn to my ADD.

11) Learn about ADD/ADHD. Read information and find out all you can on how kids with ADD learn and what can make it easier for them.

12) Always remember that I am a person with feelings, needs and goals. These are as important to me as yours are to you.

The Web Sight Address is : http://add.about.com

 

 Do we want our children going out into the real world without a clue? I don't and I don't think you do either. Just my 2 cents worth.

 
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September 26, 2006, 6:32 am PDT

DEALING WITH A TEEN BOY WITH ISSUES...

I am a mom of five children (17 years to 16 months)...the issue today is our 17 year old son who has lied to us very recently and lost his driving privileges until he is 18 (5 1/2 months).  He is seeing a 15 year old girlfriend whose mother has filed charges against another 17 year old for RAPE!!!  Our son sees nothing wrong with this problem.  The other night, my sister and son were talking via Internet and he shared with her a dream that he had...him seeing his whole family dead.  That frightened me .  So last night, my husband and I took our son to the local hospital for help.  Because he was not SUICIDAL nor HOMICIDAL, they would not admit him for observation (which is fine), but did send us off with names and numbers of psychologists to talk to him.  There is help out there...but as a mom who gave birth to this "little boy" it bothered me to think for one minute that my son could hurt anyone.  But I am glad that we did take him (and he went voluntarily) to the hospital.

 
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September 26, 2006, 10:01 am PDT

Troubled Teens

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I am a mom of five children (17 years to 16 months)...the issue today is our 17 year old son who has lied to us very recently and lost his driving privileges until he is 18 (5 1/2 months).  He is seeing a 15 year old girlfriend whose mother has filed charges against another 17 year old for RAPE!!!  Our son sees nothing wrong with this problem.  The other night, my sister and son were talking via Internet and he shared with her a dream that he had...him seeing his whole family dead.  That frightened me .  So last night, my husband and I took our son to the local hospital for help.  Because he was not SUICIDAL nor HOMICIDAL, they would not admit him for observation (which is fine), but did send us off with names and numbers of psychologists to talk to him.  There is help out there...but as a mom who gave birth to this "little boy" it bothered me to think for one minute that my son could hurt anyone.  But I am glad that we did take him (and he went voluntarily) to the hospital.

I also have had my son write on a piece of paper people that he wants to see dead when he reaches the age of 18 or 21 yrs. I am a Christian woman who tries to use Heaven and Hell to discuss such things. My son has been raised in a semi christian home (me being christian and his dad not being christian)  So far it has seemed to help.

I wish you the best of luck with your son and it sounds like he is looking to get better because he agreed to go to the hospital with you. That is a step, even if a baby step.

God Bless you and keep you and yours.

 
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