Topic : Troubled Teens

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April 25, 2008, 4:56 pm PDT

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I'm loosing my 12 yr old granddaughter, We found out she was cutting herself, and that she was passing notes in school saying she was going to try pot on that Friday, She can go from being in a good mood to so angry, She talks about killing herself and always saying she wishes she was dead. She has a younger sister who is 10 and they argue about every little thing they call each other stupid tell each other to shut up they call each other whores. She also has a 7 month old sister who she could be playing with and if the baby starts crying she yells at her she says she wishes she was dead and one day she said she was going to ring her neck if she didn't shut up. I don't leave her alone with the baby anymore. she yells and has no respect for her mother myself or her papa. As a matter of fact she hates us. And she lets us know about it , she throws fits. I am afraid I'm going to loose her . I'm afraid she may keep her word and try and do something stupid, I already lost my oldest son I don't want to loose my granddaughter. It breaks my heart to know that my granddaughter hates me and I don't know why or what to do about it. I really need some help with this one. I couldn't take it if I lost her. I love her and would do anything for her. But she just pushes me away. Someone PLEASE HELP Me get my granddaughter back

Your granddaughter needs to see a counselor/therapist now, and her parents (you didn't mention them, so if they aren't around, then you) should see that she gets to one.  She doesn't hate you ... she hates something else, likely involving herself, and it taking it out on those closest to her because they don't strike back as others would.  The cutting is another sign that she needs professional help.  For the sake of her future and everyone's well being, see that she gets help.
 
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April 28, 2008, 11:33 am PDT

My daughter won't stop lying

   My daughter has this issue with lying. I understand kids lie but this is getting ridiculous. For the past couple years every time we ask her a question the reply is always a lie.We have tried to explain to her that in order for all of us to have a good trusting relationship lying can not be part of it. We have grounded her, taken things and privileges away,talked until we could think of nothing else to say. I understand that in the scheme of things, she is  a straight A student, plays the violin and is a all around good kid. My fear is that if we can't find a way to get her to see lying is damaging our relationship that we will lose her in some way. Any advice would be appreciated.

Liz

 
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April 30, 2008, 7:24 am PDT

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I found this while looking at some videos online, I thought I would share this and see if anyone else has seen similar behavior or at least what other ppl felt about this kind of behavior.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=28864079
if that was my son i would not allow him on the computer cause there in no reason for that kind of behavor and that kid and the parents needs some help to control the kids and not play tricks  or laugh about it cause it looked like they was giving him fuel.
 
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April 30, 2008, 8:27 am PDT

Lying "all around good kid"

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   My daughter has this issue with lying. I understand kids lie but this is getting ridiculous. For the past couple years every time we ask her a question the reply is always a lie.We have tried to explain to her that in order for all of us to have a good trusting relationship lying can not be part of it. We have grounded her, taken things and privileges away,talked until we could think of nothing else to say. I understand that in the scheme of things, she is  a straight A student, plays the violin and is a all around good kid. My fear is that if we can't find a way to get her to see lying is damaging our relationship that we will lose her in some way. Any advice would be appreciated.

Liz

There has to be something missing here.  Your daughter is a "straight A student" and "all around good kid", but for "the past couple years" {years!} every time you ask her a question the reply is a lie?

 

Talk informally (="off the record") with her school counselor for some input on both your daughter and teens there more generally.  Also chat with some of your daughter's friends' mothers for the same purpose.

 

Anything else seems like just speculating, but if forced to do so, I'd have to guess your daughter may be doing something she shouldn't - perhaps behind your back.  Do you know where she is "all" the time, or are there times when you just think she is somewhere but don't really know?  Are there unexplained absences?  Missing hours?  Other than the lying, any behavior changes at all?

 
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May 28, 2008, 9:55 pm PDT

Mom being overly rude?

i'm sorry if this is too long, but i think its sad i have to turn to the internet for help, instead of my mom. background information: i live with my great aunt, my grandmother's dead, so i refer to my great aunt as my grandma. my mom was on drugs from when i was 7 - 14. i'm 15 now. she had me at 15. i have a punk/alt. edge i suppose. and i try as much as i can to be myself, individual, and not caring what other people have to say. the problem: my mom visits regularly. i have a brother and a sister, my brother's 10 and my sister's a couple of months old. and yes, i am spoiled, and yes, i know i'm a brat. i'm not pinning it all on everyone else, this is my fault too. i'm also overly emotional. if someone yells at me, i cry. i cry entirely too easily. anywho, my mom, tells me i'm a freak, i dress too "gothic" or too "freakish" and that i need to try and be more normal. when she meets some of my friends, she either labels them as "freaks" or "normals." if they are normal, she tells me, why can't you be more like ____? why can't you be normal? and if i try and talk to her about anything, i usually am too sarcastic or too smartass, and she ends up yelling and making me cry, she's always cutting me down, and making me feel worthless. i could be feeling great, then she'll visit and tell me something to ruin my day. today, in fact, i was hanging out with a friend, and she told me i acted too immature, that i needed to act more mature. she said i acted like i was 10, and i acted like my brother, that he acted more mature than me. sometimes, i do act young, but its just jokingly, i'm not as young as she makes me out to be. she acts like kids from school, making faces, and making hand notions and such to make fun of me, in a mocking voice. and she always makes me grit my teeth by saying stuff like "if i wanted you to, i could control your entire life, you know that right? i'm the mother. say it with me. now, WHO'S the mother?" then i have no choice but to give in and say she is. i tell her respect works both ways, but she flips it and tells me i'm disrespectful, which i am, but not to the extent she is to me. and she also makes it out that everything i do is in spite of her. i have a short pixie cut, and i have small gauges, and i don't enjoy getting my nails done. all i heard today was "you do everything just to piss me off. you cut your hair off as short as it would go, you never want your nails done. and those stupid holes in your ears look terrible." i did specifically get the gauges she told me not to, but i got my grandma's permission before putting them in. also, when i cry, she says stuff like "why are you crying? do you see what i mean about being immature? why do you have to cry? that's stupid, you were talking fine, now you have to cry?" and i replied "i'm not sure, you're mean to me, always trying to change me. you always have something negatory to say about me. you make me feel like crap." and she said "no i don't, now tell me why you're really crying." i simply said "i don't know, ok, sometimes i just need to cry, i'm overly emotional." there is so much more, but this is already too long, honestly, i don't know what to do. i've tried talking to her, i've tried ignoring her, i've tried standing up to her, i've tried going along with it, i'm running out of options and my self esteem is lowered every time she visits.
 
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June 1, 2008, 1:07 pm PDT

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Quote From: mistaric

i'm sorry if this is too long, but i think its sad i have to turn to the internet for help, instead of my mom. background information: i live with my great aunt, my grandmother's dead, so i refer to my great aunt as my grandma. my mom was on drugs from when i was 7 - 14. i'm 15 now. she had me at 15. i have a punk/alt. edge i suppose. and i try as much as i can to be myself, individual, and not caring what other people have to say. the problem: my mom visits regularly. i have a brother and a sister, my brother's 10 and my sister's a couple of months old. and yes, i am spoiled, and yes, i know i'm a brat. i'm not pinning it all on everyone else, this is my fault too. i'm also overly emotional. if someone yells at me, i cry. i cry entirely too easily. anywho, my mom, tells me i'm a freak, i dress too "gothic" or too "freakish" and that i need to try and be more normal. when she meets some of my friends, she either labels them as "freaks" or "normals." if they are normal, she tells me, why can't you be more like ____? why can't you be normal? and if i try and talk to her about anything, i usually am too sarcastic or too smartass, and she ends up yelling and making me cry, she's always cutting me down, and making me feel worthless. i could be feeling great, then she'll visit and tell me something to ruin my day. today, in fact, i was hanging out with a friend, and she told me i acted too immature, that i needed to act more mature. she said i acted like i was 10, and i acted like my brother, that he acted more mature than me. sometimes, i do act young, but its just jokingly, i'm not as young as she makes me out to be. she acts like kids from school, making faces, and making hand notions and such to make fun of me, in a mocking voice. and she always makes me grit my teeth by saying stuff like "if i wanted you to, i could control your entire life, you know that right? i'm the mother. say it with me. now, WHO'S the mother?" then i have no choice but to give in and say she is. i tell her respect works both ways, but she flips it and tells me i'm disrespectful, which i am, but not to the extent she is to me. and she also makes it out that everything i do is in spite of her. i have a short pixie cut, and i have small gauges, and i don't enjoy getting my nails done. all i heard today was "you do everything just to piss me off. you cut your hair off as short as it would go, you never want your nails done. and those stupid holes in your ears look terrible." i did specifically get the gauges she told me not to, but i got my grandma's permission before putting them in. also, when i cry, she says stuff like "why are you crying? do you see what i mean about being immature? why do you have to cry? that's stupid, you were talking fine, now you have to cry?" and i replied "i'm not sure, you're mean to me, always trying to change me. you always have something negatory to say about me. you make me feel like crap." and she said "no i don't, now tell me why you're really crying." i simply said "i don't know, ok, sometimes i just need to cry, i'm overly emotional." there is so much more, but this is already too long, honestly, i don't know what to do. i've tried talking to her, i've tried ignoring her, i've tried standing up to her, i've tried going along with it, i'm running out of options and my self esteem is lowered every time she visits.
 

Well, you sure do have a lot to deal with – more than anyone your age should have to handle. But, it seems you have the smarts to do well. The “trick” is what you do with those smarts.


From what you wrote, there are three main thoughts I’ve got for you.

+ First, your great aunt, who was kind enough to care for you, probably is doing her best to make up for your effective loss of your mother (for the 8 years of drug use). She may well have spoiled you, although probably not on purpose. (My daughter says she is spoiled, and I guarantee we didn’t try to do that! Anyway, she drives a 9-year old Nissan, not a new BMW.) What you did get is perhaps more freedom/options than you should have had at the time.

+ Second, your mom probably is reacting unfavorably to your actions and choices partly because they aren’t what she would have wanted to see you make, because she wasn’t there for 8 years to really guide you, and because she may not be all too sure of how to react/talk/relate to you. Don’t blame her for her efforts today, even if they frustrate or upset you. It might be a great idea for you and your mom to get some “family counseling” so an independent professional can help each of you be together more smoothly. These services may be available through a health insurance plan or through a local community service agency – perhaps a non-profit or a county agency.

+ Third – you! I guess that you managed some of your own “upbringing”, and certainly have chosen your own friends and apparent life style image. I think it is great to be “your own person” and to express yourself. It is important to be able to make your own judgments, select your own friends, etc. BUT, do recognize that others can make their own judgments, including forming “first impressions”. And do realize that while you call your style of dress etc. an expression of your independence, in fact you are conforming to a non-majority group’s standards, and that group projects an image that limits their future opportunities in jobs and friends. (That could be behind some of your mom’s comments.)


For right now, read over what you said and see how your decisions help or hurt the situations. Clearly the gauge didn’t help; your mom said no so you got someone else to say OK. Was some of that your own rebellion against things in your life you don’t like. Is some of what you feel – your desire to be your own person – being expressed as a rejection of values your mom and others tell you but sure haven’t helped them do what you see as the right thing? That doesn’t make the values bad. This isn’t about you being crazy or wild versus normal; its just about letting you have the greatest opportunities for a wonderful future – a future you can have.


With or without your mom, try to find a counselor with whom you can talk through these things. You could try places I mentioned above, or even start at a local youth center. You don’t have to do all this on your own!

 
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June 3, 2008, 10:42 pm PDT

I'm at my wits end

I am a 21 year old nanny of 4 children. Both of their parents are deployed, so I take care of the children full time. I am at my wits end with the oldest child. He is 12 years old and has a lot of issues. His issues are from a lifetime of different "dads" and a new nanny every few years. He is openly defiant to me and he gets in my face and yells at me. He throws things at his younger siblings and sometimes hits his brothers (8  and 6.) I have read parenting books till the lines blur. I have him counseling, I have him in with doctors. I've taken everything away from him, telling him he has to earn his privleges back. He has had 15 days of ISS this school year. He is downright hostile and he lies and manipulates all the time. He doesn't seem to be attached to anyone in his life, his mom, his grandparents, his brothers. I fear I am raising a sociapath. I realize that is a strong word, but it is my true fear. The counselors and doctors don't take me seriously, probably because of my age. What can i do for this child? I know he is hurting and I think he could be a good kid. He can be so sweet and charming and he is so smart.
 
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June 6, 2008, 8:14 am PDT

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I am a 21 year old nanny of 4 children. Both of their parents are deployed, so I take care of the children full time. I am at my wits end with the oldest child. He is 12 years old and has a lot of issues. His issues are from a lifetime of different "dads" and a new nanny every few years. He is openly defiant to me and he gets in my face and yells at me. He throws things at his younger siblings and sometimes hits his brothers (8  and 6.) I have read parenting books till the lines blur. I have him counseling, I have him in with doctors. I've taken everything away from him, telling him he has to earn his privleges back. He has had 15 days of ISS this school year. He is downright hostile and he lies and manipulates all the time. He doesn't seem to be attached to anyone in his life, his mom, his grandparents, his brothers. I fear I am raising a sociapath. I realize that is a strong word, but it is my true fear. The counselors and doctors don't take me seriously, probably because of my age. What can i do for this child? I know he is hurting and I think he could be a good kid. He can be so sweet and charming and he is so smart.
I think you are doing all you can.  You've identified the key issues, including "a lifetime of different "dads"", and the absence of parents for any of the children.  As the succession of "dads" would mean a succession of different behavior standards, I'd guess he has formed his own, or perhaps the absence of any firm rules, so he gets (or tires to get) away with whatever he wants.  The doctors and counselors ought to be more helpful and recommend some stable program for him.  Although stable parents on the scene steadily is what he really should have, you can't make that happen as things are.  If you aren't living in a rural area, there should be some kind of program available locally that could help --perhaps a scout troup, perhaps some other youth group with regular guided activities.  Possibly a school counselor would have good suggestions, and possibly a different counselor - a trained social worker or psychologist - would also help.  Good Luck!
 

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June 19, 2008, 12:00 pm PDT

she can be saved...i just know it

I met their dad when they were 3 yrs and 6 yrs old, I fell in love with the whole family instantly, jeff and I married 2 years later. The kids had a pretty "norman rockwell" life with us. Shortly after I came, the childrens mother showed signs of drug use and we entered into a custody battle, we obtained full custody and my journey as a step mom began. I loved them as my own and filled all of the duties that their mom was too high to do. The kids and I had a great relationship, I was good at it. Probably 2 or 3 years into the relationship, I discovered that my husband had become addicted to vicodin after back surgery, from there he moved to oxycontin and cocaine. I fought hard to fix him, i dumped out drugs, i combatted drug dealers and I threatened to leave if he wouldnt go to rehab. I stuck it out for so long to help the kids. In november 2001, he became violent and I left with only the clothes on my back. I knew in my heart, that something bad would happen but I had to leave. I came to our house one day in january, when I knew jeff wasnt home. I found drug paraphanalia and drugs out in the open. I was so mad, I took the drugs, weight scale and ran them over in the driveway. On february 7th 2002, I left him a message on his cell that he needed to go to rehab, and I'd watch the kids, or I was going to tell child protective services. 3 days later, Jeff died in front of his children of a drug overdose, the whole ordeal was horrific for them. I will never forget those two little faces at his funeral, oh my god, I'll never forget that. They were only 10 and 13...it was valentines day. They went from pure protected innocense and were thrust into the cruel abusive world of methamphedamine, abusive men and utter neglect of a drug addicted mother. Their grand parents refused to take custody. I Never heard from Josh again, but out of the blue, when she was 17, I heard from Whitney. I'll skip the stuff that she had to endure, but it was horrible, I cant think of it for too long before it affects me too much. I urged her to move back here and she did! She is beautiful..sweet..smart but she is terrified to be alone and has panic attacks often. She passes out and becomes physically ill, it has become debillitating for her. I found her a psychiatrist (i love her!!!!) but it's not working. She is starting to cut herself and meds arent working. Please help me, I am all that she has and this is so out of my area of expertise. Her therapist says that she looks to me as a mother, so I am responsible to protect her, i feel so helpless. She can be saved. Please help me 
 
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June 20, 2008, 11:53 am PDT

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I met their dad when they were 3 yrs and 6 yrs old, I fell in love with the whole family instantly, jeff and I married 2 years later. The kids had a pretty "norman rockwell" life with us. Shortly after I came, the childrens mother showed signs of drug use and we entered into a custody battle, we obtained full custody and my journey as a step mom began. I loved them as my own and filled all of the duties that their mom was too high to do. The kids and I had a great relationship, I was good at it. Probably 2 or 3 years into the relationship, I discovered that my husband had become addicted to vicodin after back surgery, from there he moved to oxycontin and cocaine. I fought hard to fix him, i dumped out drugs, i combatted drug dealers and I threatened to leave if he wouldnt go to rehab. I stuck it out for so long to help the kids. In november 2001, he became violent and I left with only the clothes on my back. I knew in my heart, that something bad would happen but I had to leave. I came to our house one day in january, when I knew jeff wasnt home. I found drug paraphanalia and drugs out in the open. I was so mad, I took the drugs, weight scale and ran them over in the driveway. On february 7th 2002, I left him a message on his cell that he needed to go to rehab, and I'd watch the kids, or I was going to tell child protective services. 3 days later, Jeff died in front of his children of a drug overdose, the whole ordeal was horrific for them. I will never forget those two little faces at his funeral, oh my god, I'll never forget that. They were only 10 and 13...it was valentines day. They went from pure protected innocense and were thrust into the cruel abusive world of methamphedamine, abusive men and utter neglect of a drug addicted mother. Their grand parents refused to take custody. I Never heard from Josh again, but out of the blue, when she was 17, I heard from Whitney. I'll skip the stuff that she had to endure, but it was horrible, I cant think of it for too long before it affects me too much. I urged her to move back here and she did! She is beautiful..sweet..smart but she is terrified to be alone and has panic attacks often. She passes out and becomes physically ill, it has become debillitating for her. I found her a psychiatrist (i love her!!!!) but it's not working. She is starting to cut herself and meds arent working. Please help me, I am all that she has and this is so out of my area of expertise. Her therapist says that she looks to me as a mother, so I am responsible to protect her, i feel so helpless. She can be saved. Please help me 

You said "Shortly after I came, the childrens mother showed signs of drug use and we entered into a custody battle, we obtained full custody and my journey as a step mom began".  It is unfortunate you didn't retain custody when their dad - your late husband - died, especially with a "drug addicted mother".  At any rate, where to go from here is the issue.  Step one clearly was to ask the therapist, and if you aren't getting answers that produce positive change - and apparently they aren't - to look for another opinion from another therapist.  This assumes Whitney isn't somehow being affected by any issues you may happen to be dealing with - and most all have something that is not as perfect/happy as we'd want.  Sometimes it takes two, three or possibly more tries to find the right professional for help.  So far as I know, the field is not an exact science.  If you have no luck that way, I can only suggest having her spend somt time in a good psychiatric hospital that specializes in adolescents -- and "good" means more than just having an  adolescent ward.

 

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