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May 10, 2007, 10:14 am PDT

Anorexia

I've cycled in and out of my eating disroder since I was a teenager.   My husband has been with me since nearly the beginning of it, but he still doesn't understand what it's all about.  I went into treatment a couple of years ago, when it got really bad--I lost 25 pounds in six weeks back then.  I did what I had to do to get out of there, as I thought that some of it was lame.  They can't dive into your real issues in such a short period of time.  Your counselors were interns, not real therapists, you only met with them a couple of times a week, and you were lucky to have  the same one between the time you arrived at the facility and the time you left.  It was awkward for me anyway, because despite my weight loss, I was still considered overweight.  I've had a lot of bad experiences with doctors commenting to me about my weight.  I'm in the midst of my eating disorder again, but my husband doesn't know.  Only one friend and my counselor know.  I've got my weight down to under where I was upon entering treatment two years ago, but I'm still considered to be 20 to 25 pounds overweight.  I don't want to get into my life story right now, but I do know that I'm struggling.  I'm a fool because I'd rather give into my symptoms than deal with what is underneath that is trying to surface.  I will push myself until the panic/anxiety attacks get the best of me or until I physically can't take it anymore.  I watch Dr. Phill all of the time, and wish that someone would give me that type of no-nonsense, in your face wake-up call., with a mixture of compassion and understanding.     
 
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May 10, 2007, 10:19 am PDT

Can relate

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Anamom,

 

I am scared for you as well.  Not just scared, extremely *alarmed* 

I can relate.  I've battled an eating disorder since I was roughly 16, and I'm 33 now.   I'm back into mine, including diet pills.  Every time I think that I'm okay, something happens and I go back to it.  My husband knows my history, but doesn't know I'm giving into my symptoms again.  I have an 11 year-old daughter who is also worried about her weight, and while I'm worried about her weight too, I don't want her to go down the same road I have. 
 
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May 11, 2007, 6:39 am PDT

hey...

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I've cycled in and out of my eating disroder since I was a teenager.   My husband has been with me since nearly the beginning of it, but he still doesn't understand what it's all about.  I went into treatment a couple of years ago, when it got really bad--I lost 25 pounds in six weeks back then.  I did what I had to do to get out of there, as I thought that some of it was lame.  They can't dive into your real issues in such a short period of time.  Your counselors were interns, not real therapists, you only met with them a couple of times a week, and you were lucky to have  the same one between the time you arrived at the facility and the time you left.  It was awkward for me anyway, because despite my weight loss, I was still considered overweight.  I've had a lot of bad experiences with doctors commenting to me about my weight.  I'm in the midst of my eating disorder again, but my husband doesn't know.  Only one friend and my counselor know.  I've got my weight down to under where I was upon entering treatment two years ago, but I'm still considered to be 20 to 25 pounds overweight.  I don't want to get into my life story right now, but I do know that I'm struggling.  I'm a fool because I'd rather give into my symptoms than deal with what is underneath that is trying to surface.  I will push myself until the panic/anxiety attacks get the best of me or until I physically can't take it anymore.  I watch Dr. Phill all of the time, and wish that someone would give me that type of no-nonsense, in your face wake-up call., with a mixture of compassion and understanding.     

Hi, I read your post (obviously!) and I just ... I also love Dr. Phil's "let's get real/no-nonsense" attitude, and I do agree with him 100% that if you're not going to be honest (and I don't mean you, but ANYONE struggling, including myself) then you're spinning your wheels in treatment.  Hence the whole "I you're gonna talk to me, you're gonna have to be honest!" (i love it!)

 

 I feel like...  something is really hurting you a lot, and I don't think you are "a fool" at all.  Most of us are here b/c we would much prefer to give into ed "behaviors" than deal with our junk.  And for you also, I imagine it is difficult when you know your brain is anorexic, but your body doesn't cooperate.  And what I mean by that is, sometimes we really need to make our symptoms manifest so that people understand - I just want to disappear, I feel like junk (or at least, that is how I feel when I am giving into anorexia sx).  Just b/c you're not at a weight that would elicit alarm from most people, doesn't mean your eating disorder isn't extremely serious.   The anxiety you describe is a concern in and of itself... and it's not always necessary to dive deep into issues as you mentioned in order to make significant progress in therapy.  Or do you disagree?  If so, I'd be curious...  (Btw, yes, some treatment centers are definitely lame, no question - I'm sorry yours was one of fthem.)

 

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May 11, 2007, 7:07 am PDT

So....today I feel like a cow

Okay, so I actually wrote a long post, and then managed to erase it, which really is super irritating. ARRGH!!  (low frustration tolerance today... okay, every day...LoL)

 

Anyhow, I was just saying that I felt/still feel really huge.  And maybe I shouldn't, but you can't help what you feel inside.  I just like... really wanted to purge last night and I had to stop myself b/c I knew it would be so counterproductive after how hard I worked to eat.  But I was lying on my bed last night in my pj's and suddenly it just popped in my head "whoa! how on earth did I suddenly morph into staypuff marshmallow girl just like that?!"   I really had to fight with myself to not give in.  I'm being helped right now by this documentary THIN by Lauren Greenfield, which I wonder if any of you have seen?  It is actually quite *triggering* and I couldn't personally recommend it for someone who is still in the thick of an eating disorder, but... for me, somehow it is becoming a tremendous extra push toward true recovery.  I loved all the girls I saw in that film, but Polly was my favorite, b/c she was so genuine and just... became this real presence in my life.  When I feel like giving in, I think of her and how much she suffered through eating a cupcake.  It was so real for me, b/c I've been in that same position in inpatient tx, and felt (what I imagine were) the exact same terrorizing feelings.  It is difficult to be alone in this.   Polly has helped me feel less alone.  Everyone posting here makes me feel less alone, and so I'm pushing, b/c I know someday I'm going to help make a little piece of the world a better place, just like every one of you.

 

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skittles

 

 

 
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May 12, 2007, 1:50 pm PDT

Meet my Friend A.N.

Meet My Friend A.N. A story about Anorexia Nervosa

 

            I am not a doctor unless of course you count the Juris Doctor degree bestowed on me by a great institution of higher legal learning in the state of North Carolina.  The J.D. I insert behind my name has nothing to do with the practice of medicine or the diagnosing of any medical conditions.  I want to be clear that I have no medical training.  I have not conferred with any physicians concerning my findings.  This is my personal story.  One I feel a sense of responsibility to be honest and precise about. 

 

            I summoned my medical records from my hometown after I married and retained a new group of physicians.  I somehow received a handheld copy which I examined.  It did not reveal any diagnosis concerning any eating disorder.  The wonderful doctor who treated me during my teenage years was also a close family friend in addition to being my mother’s employer.  I believe he would never put anything in my records that might harm me in the future.  I praise him for his discretion towards my medical records and his candor when speaking with me.  It was this doctor who first made me face the hard truth that I in fact had an eating disorder.  In simple words he told me, “Eat or Die.”

I tried to eat.  I still try to eat.  I don’t dislike food.  I have preferences in taste.  I have food passions.  My problem is that I will turn away from even foods I enjoy and love and then find a good reason for doing so.  This past month I have given up coffee and chocolate.  My reasoning, I can’t tolerate much caffeine.  This is probably accurate since I have violent mood swings following drinking coffee and eating the smallest portions of chocolate.  I am a much calmer, accepting person without the effects of caffeine.  Just yesterday I discovered an article addressing individual’s thresholds of tolerance towards caffeine in the Ladies Home Journal Magazine.  The article suggested abstaining from caffeine if you have certain conditions.  I feel strongly that I have one of those certain conditions.  I will slip up and eat chocolate.  I will slip up and drink coffee.  I will not partake of them freely as I have done for the past several years. 

I need to explain that A.N. and I were not the best friends for the past few years.  I have three children who took precedence over my relationship with my dear old friend.  I enjoyed my pregnancies.  That is to say I was happy to conceive and bring children into this world.  There was much about being pregnant that was debilitating.  My first nine months was not so terrible.  I gained a total of twenty pounds.  My start weight totaled 135.  My finish weight recorded on the day before birthing my firstborn was 155.  (My doctor’s office was kind enough to issue me a booklet that the nurses updated at each doctor’s visit.  It contained such information as my blood pressure history, weight gain, and fetal height.  I have all three booklets from all three pregnancies.  They are keepsakes and have a place of honor in each of my children’s baby books.)  I was in very good shape before and throughout my first pregnancy.  I walked a lot and carried book weights around during my first year in law school.  I delivered on my actual due date.  My delivery from the first sign to the final push lasted five hours.

During my second pregnancy my start weight was again 135.  I had been a few pounds under that, but by the time I arrived at the doctor’s office my body had already started responding to the pregnancy.  This pregnancy was entirely different from the first.  I was terribly sick for the first trimester.  I endured the unmentionable ptyalism until the third trimester.  Even still I gained over fifty pounds.  Two days before my delivery I weighed in at 186.  I elicited a lot of laughter at my enormously protruding midsection.  Still happily I submitted and committed to the wonderfulness of bringing forth a new life into this world and at the end I was rewarded with my second son.  He was a much bigger son, but still a precious addition.  Less than a year later, I presented into this world our beautiful baby daughter, nearly nine pounds and greatly anticipated.  She was nine of forty pounds I acquired.  I started my third pregnancy in the 140s and with six days to go, I weighed 186.  Soon afterwards it was done, .my portion of Eve’s longstanding debt paid.  My post-partum weight somewhere in the 190s, I swear. 

It has been eight years since the birth of my first child and three and a half years since the birth of my third.  I have finally sometime within the last two months reached my pre-pregnancy weight.  My last weigh-in occurred two days ago at 136.5.  I must describe the smile on my face as I paused for a second after typing those numbers.  It slid in from the side and grew to my eyes but stopped short of lighting my entire face.  I am happy, but it is fleeting joy.  For I know I did not get back here alone.  My friend has returned bearing gifts, and she hasn’t changed much over all these years.  Let me tell you what she has been up to while we were estranged.

            I thought it strange that I had not heard from A.N., but I felt it was completely by my own choosing.  I thought it was not a good idea to have her visit while I enjoyed being fruitful.  I took very memorable pictures during my pregnancy depicting my proudness.  I had many beautiful moments.  I accepted my growing body and even the seemingly permanent changes.  My grandfather taught me how to roll quarters in the folds of my stomach when I was child like a belly dancer.  I look at my stomach now and wonder which fold to start with.  I haven’t given up that battle yet.  I believe I am going to beat it.  I will get back my stomach.  Not my old stomach, but I will get back a flat one.  Until then I have managed to secure a weird two-piece swimsuit.  The bottom covers way up over my belly button.  The top is a small bra.  With a matching high-waisted sarong, I appear to be dawning a bikini.  Where there is a will there is a way.  This swim season is all about new fashionable cover-ups.  I will be looking for one that I can proudly wear into the water.  This has more to do with my feelings of maturity than shyness over my physique.  Most of my body has bounced back, even my arms, but I must confess that my husband and I have been self- remodeling a house for the past two years.  And I dance on occasion from morning until way into the afternoon when the feeling hits me.  Most importantly, I recently discovered the powers of green tea that has replaced my morning cup of coffee.  It seemingly suppresses my appetite, but again I confess to know nothing of medicine.

            I’m sorry if I am wavering.  It is intentional avoidance of getting to my point, my true confessions about A.N.  She didn’t visit much over the past few years, or so I thought.  I came to realize recently after praying for relief from my ongoing violent mood swings that she has been near me all the time.  She was quietly cloaked sitting in the corner waiting for me to notice her.  It took me a very long time.  I’ve been very busy with three kids and remodeling a home and trying to figure out how to balance being a stay at home mom with being a licensed attorney, a licensed real estate agent, and pursue my passion for writing and painting.  I admit that I haven’t figured it all out yet.  I have recently called upon the Eternal Trio (The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit) to help me.  They have eased my burden significantly and revealed so much to me.  So I’m sticking with them and sharing what I have learned about A.N.  She is deceptive.  She had been watching me to make sure I didn’t completely forget her and all her ways.  We didn’t meet face to face, but I hardly forgot her.

But she is a friend, and she had made it clear that she does not intend to abandon me.  I have not yet found a way to completely sever ties with her even though I know she hasn’t been straightforward with me.  I knew nothing about her deceitfulness.  I always thought she was forthcoming about her aversions to eating.  You stop wanting to eat, you stop being hungry, you stop eating food, you lose weight.  No secret there.  Yet it doesn’t stop there with A.N.  When I attempted to leave her alone, she became quietly controlling interfering with otherwise positive and healthy relationships. 

I found a way to detest my relationship with innocent people because of a misunderstanding and miscommunication surrounding the control over my food.  The result was mental suffering over the past few years for no other reasons than my past relationship with A.N. and the aversion to eating that I thought I had overcome.  In plainer English, if they messed with my food, they messed with me. 

If you love me and want to keep me in your circle, don’t ever hand me a plate, with food on it, that is.  Worse than handing me food is taking away food that I have decided I will partake of.  The people who did that became sworn enemies.  I have called them every name under the sun without even knowing why I was angry with them.  My neighbors, the few sweet ones who kindly delivered chocolate cookies, brownies, and truffles to welcome my family into the neighborhoods did not intend me any harm.  Harm still resulted since I could not resist eating their offerings.

I never visited any of them.  I swore that each of the three women were a spy, a witch, or a demon.  I repent.  I am terribly sorry.  I didn’t understand why I took such a disliking to them all at the time.  Another neighbor gave food to me and I in good conscience immediately handed it off to my in-laws because it contained nuts and one of my sons is allergic.  This neighbor is still in my good graces.  I’ve never even considered her to be anything but a friendly neighbor.  Family members, who have yearly gatherings centering food that I find pleasurable, are not my most favorite people in the world to visit.  If you’re not the best cook, nothing to fear, I can visit comfortably.  Those who ever fed me on request or gave me exactly what food I asked for when I asked for it, I have held dear to my heart. 

            It is a shameful admission.  One I am trying no longer to face alone.  I have held on to A.N. because I thought our friendship had had more advantageous than disadvantages.  I like fitting loosely in clothes.  I don’t like snug anything, not even ankle wraps on espadrilles, my favorite shoes.  A.N. helped me accomplish reaching my weight goals.  Yet that alone is not enough to consider her to be the best kind of friend.  Unknowingly I adopted all of her ways and fused them with mine own. 

I know I may no longer base my relationships on something as quirky as a food choice or control over food.  I know that my relationship with A.N. has been harmful.  I suffered from hyperthyroidism until it went in remission during my pregnant years.  I used to think that being friends with A.N. had to do with my own vanity issues.  It does not.  A.N. thinks nothing of my looks.  We cling to each other whether I am beautiful or distorted.  My most distinctive feature has always been my uniquely shaped eyes.  When I suffered from hyperthyroidism, my eyes bulged a bit.  If it were only an issue of vanity, I would have blamed A.N. then, and abandoned her.  The relationship survived. 

God has answered my many prayers and has granted me the desires of my heart.  I know if I ask, He will deliver me from the hold A.N. has over me.  I haven’t brought myself to ask.  She is indeed an old friend, and she has made it clear that she will never abandon me.  The old folks in my community used to tell the youth to pray and fast.  Well A.N. is still smiling at that one!

 
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May 14, 2007, 10:28 am PDT

really need your opportunity

I don't know if I have an eating disorder or not... Like I wrote once in an ohter post my dance teacher thinks that I'm anorexic... first I thought she is wrong I don't have any problem .. then a bit later I thought okay she is right I have an eating disorder a few months later I thought no she isn't right I have really no problem ... now I'm just changing my mind every day.. I really don't know... I know it would be best to visit the doctor but I really am afraid of it .. . Dance is my life!!really it is my life and I don't wanna live without it I knwo what I'm talking 'bout because I had an injury few years ago ... and I know how I was feeling the whole time.... and if my parents would find out that I have an eating disorder they would never let me dance again ... no matter if I would recover or not... I know that  for sure! and I wanna become professional so I really can't visit the doctor...
but I've an other question...
Is it possible or normal that people start you hating for your illenss??
I mean no matter if I am anorexic or not my dance teacher thinks I am...
and I think she hates me ... and this really hurts me...
I don't know why (and I know this is not good) but I really love my danceteacher and we actually had a great friend relationship!!! a really perfect friend relationship... she was caring like my mom
but now she says really hurtfull things to me ...
she really doesn't act like I mean anything to her...
I really feel hurt and sad...
she acts like she hates me.. and then for a short moment she is really very sweet but the next minute she says hurtfull unfriendly things again..
I'm going on her nerves with my low self esteem..
It's crazy because first she told me that she thinks that I have an eating disorder she cared like crazy...... she also told me that I just don't listen to her but that's not true...
so what I want to ask is ... is it normal /is it possible that people start hating you for your illness ...or has there to be an other reason??? I really don't know what to think anymore because I really haven't done anything to her...
Her mom came from usa for vacation she was sooo cute... she always tried to talk to me.... what's really cute but also a bit straingth is that in two days she told me 4 times to take care of myself... told me 2 that I'm beautiful and told me 3 times that I dance beautifully and that I should keep on dancing
please give me some advice
I'm really confused and sad and really need someone to talk...

 
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May 14, 2007, 10:32 am PDT

sorry

I'm sorry for the worng message title of my last post .. for sure I don't meant I really need your oppurtunity... I meant I really need your opinion!!!! really sorry for that!!!
 
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May 14, 2007, 11:18 am PDT

Hey...

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I don't know if I have an eating disorder or not... Like I wrote once in an ohter post my dance teacher thinks that I'm anorexic... first I thought she is wrong I don't have any problem .. then a bit later I thought okay she is right I have an eating disorder a few months later I thought no she isn't right I have really no problem ... now I'm just changing my mind every day.. I really don't know... I know it would be best to visit the doctor but I really am afraid of it .. . Dance is my life!!really it is my life and I don't wanna live without it I knwo what I'm talking 'bout because I had an injury few years ago ... and I know how I was feeling the whole time.... and if my parents would find out that I have an eating disorder they would never let me dance again ... no matter if I would recover or not... I know that  for sure! and I wanna become professional so I really can't visit the doctor...
but I've an other question...
Is it possible or normal that people start you hating for your illenss??
I mean no matter if I am anorexic or not my dance teacher thinks I am...
and I think she hates me ... and this really hurts me...
I don't know why (and I know this is not good) but I really love my danceteacher and we actually had a great friend relationship!!! a really perfect friend relationship... she was caring like my mom
but now she says really hurtfull things to me ...
she really doesn't act like I mean anything to her...
I really feel hurt and sad...
she acts like she hates me.. and then for a short moment she is really very sweet but the next minute she says hurtfull unfriendly things again..
I'm going on her nerves with my low self esteem..
It's crazy because first she told me that she thinks that I have an eating disorder she cared like crazy...... she also told me that I just don't listen to her but that's not true...
so what I want to ask is ... is it normal /is it possible that people start hating you for your illness ...or has there to be an other reason??? I really don't know what to think anymore because I really haven't done anything to her...
Her mom came from usa for vacation she was sooo cute... she always tried to talk to me.... what's really cute but also a bit straingth is that in two days she told me 4 times to take care of myself... told me 2 that I'm beautiful and told me 3 times that I dance beautifully and that I should keep on dancing
please give me some advice
I'm really confused and sad and really need someone to talk...

Carina_dancer,

Like I said... I feel like I'm going to make my post too personal for this board.   I'm hoping that you'll at least consider getting a counselor b/c you obviously have a lot of confusing stuff going on in your life and you don't want it to interfere with your professional aspirations.  In the meantime, I have set up an email so that you can talk to me there, but that is entirely up to you.  I would post whether or not you plan to email, b/c it's not my main account, so I'll only check it if you plan to write! :-)   Appleblueberries1@hotmail.com 

 

 

 
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May 14, 2007, 11:22 am PDT

Wooohoo!

Yay!! I did a great thing this weekend - I didn't give in to ed impulses, even though I wanted to SOOOO badly. The good news is, they did dissipate, and I no longer feel like a giant marshmallow.  I have a lot of support behind me right now, which helps more than anything.  It was good for me to be able to post and get it out of my system.  I hope that others who are struggling fight really hard too, b/c I know you can do it, and it might not seem like it at the time, but it is SO worth it.  Each day you don't give in, matters a great deal. 

 
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aaargh, wasps!

 The sting of gaining weight burns harder than I thought.

I've dragged myself up to a more normal weight,  having piled on several pounds in a relatively short period of time. Objectively,  I see a smoother, sturdier, normal looking person in the mirror.     What does it feel like? AWFUL!

My husband reassures me I am slender, and I guess I would count as slender with my stats.  I'm still a vanity 0.  My husband tells me and that I look "healthy" and frankly, more desireable now.
I FEEL AWFUL!

I feel like a big stout farm girl. I feel....ordinary.   There are lots of women who are merely slender.  I was as thin as any model and so darn proud of it.  I'm sure its a mortal sin, but I did compare myself to every other lady in the dressing room.   I WIN! was my thought,  even though I was getting laddery in the front, had to wear gel boobs,  and many stores didn't carry a zero small enough to fit me.   I was into double zero catalog territory,  and I was a little to fascinated that something like that existed.   Especially since a year and a half ago,  nothing looked good on me and I was a size 14 pushing into
"nowhere to shop but Lane Bryant" land. 

 I still haven't figured out why I liked being too thin so much, but I suspect it felt like victory.   I never meant to get so underweight.   Once there, however,  I really enjoyed being international supermodel size, having people tell me I reminded them of audrey hepburn ( shape, not face, definately)   I looked really fabulous in clothes, to tell you the truth.  I bought a lot of them,  and I am pretty much mad that some are fitting on the snug side now.  I'm terrified of gaining an ounce more, worried that I won't be able to prevent it.

These days,  my appetite is uncontrollable at times.   In fact,  the more I eat, the hungrier i get.   It's so painful I am afraid to eat the healthy foods I love and never stopped eating.   Eating an apple or a bowl of oatmeal makes me so hungry now,  I'm afraid to have normal meals.  Even at my thinnest, that was never a problem.
 
I really can't stand my fuller face or my smooth skin.  I want to be light, see bones, and feel my pants slipping down.  I'm intelligent enough to know this is wrong,  not capable of enjoying being a regular weight, even a slender-regular weight.

I have plans to excercise vigorously tonight and drink only a cup of beef or chicken boullion before bed.  No going back to skeletonville, though.   I just want 5 of the 14 pounds I've gained from my low, off.    I think I could be perfectly happy at 110.
 
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