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February 14, 2006, 1:29 pm PST

hey julie!

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Hello again, Amy. First of all, I want to agree with you about the Dr. Phil thing, I didn't get a chance to see that show, but I did look at the message boards and people are so rude. I wish people understood (haha, isn't that a far fetched wish!). I think one of the worst things is to not be understood, and it feels like people with anorexia are just so stereotyped in a negative light. I wish there was some way to explain it to people, but the thing is most people think they are right no matter what we tell them. It's like if they think all we have to do is "just eat" then that's all there is to it; I feel like there is no point in trying to explain it to people who don't listen. Anorexia isn't like any other disease; it hurts soo badly and I just wish people knew how much pain we all had to live with. I get really depressed at times and feel like it is hard to breathe........so much pain is inside my chest and it is a huge effort to just breathe. I am so sorry about the other night. I know the feeling. It is all so overwhelming. We can only suppress it for so long, then it ALL comes and we are a total mess. That has happened to me before and when I was done crying I went completely numb, like catatonic state almost. If my mom wasn't there I probably would have seriously hurt myself. I am glad you have your boyfriend, it sounds like he is really good for you. Do you think he understands? My ex-boyfriend didn't understand at all (more like didn't want to understand, hence the reason we are not together anymore, lol).

  

 

You know what you were saying about people not thinking we deserve help……I completely agree. I hate that too. It’s like we have to suffer so much in our minds as it is, and then to have our disease totally invalidated really hurts. I hate a lot about how our system handles eating disorders. I am about to leave my treatment team because of financial reasons (health insurance does not cover the clinic I am at). Health insurance is horrible. Apparently anorexia is not a “real” disease………ha, I wish it weren’t a disease, I wish it were a choice then maybe you and I wouldn’t have to suffer everyday.

  

 

It’s really nice to know that I am not alone either. I often feel crazy, like no one understands me. I wish it all away. I wish I could just get better. It’s been so long for the both of us and I really wish it would just go away. It hurts so badly. I wish I could describe how much it hurts because then maybe I would be understood. It’s really nice to know that you understand. Thank you for listening. I really appreciate having someone out there who cares J

  

 

Julie 

Hi Julie, 

  

Sorry i havent written in a bit.  This weekend I was very suicidal to the point that i had the pill bottles open and the water out ready to take them.  I however didnt swallow the pills or i wouldnt be typing now lol, i called my boyfriend and he wasnt much help so i took a few pills (more than i was supposed to ) and went to sleep for the night.  The next day my boyfriend realized how awful i was doing and wouldnt let me be alone in the house.  He kind of made me feel somewhat better being near him, and realizing that he loves me no matter what.  My boyfriend loves me unconditionally and is very good to me, BUT he really doesnt understand the emotional pain or the anorexia i suffer from.  He doesnt really try to either.  He tells me that he is here for me but that we really need to find someone to help me because he isnt capable of it..... which i completely understand.  Sometimes i get mad at him because i just wish that he could take it all away for me.. but i know that is unrealistic thinking.  He really doesnt understand about the food part and his answer is to make sure that i eat infront of him.  He takes me out to eat all the time now, but what he doesnt realize is .. is that i have started puking it up lol.  I have never done this before and all i can say is that i am so ashamed of myself.  I feel so dirty.  I guess like you I really am spiraling downwards and quickly.  But you know this is my CHOICE to DIE... and to be in pain both physically and emotoinally so i dont deserve help.. that and the fact that i dont have health insurance so im not entitled to proper care :S 

  

How are you doing?? I am saddened to hear that you are not doing well and that you are going to be leaving treatment.  I guess that I can sit here and tell you to stick with treatment and that you can do it and you can get better.. but then i would being totally hypocritical.  All I can say is that i know the pain you are going through and i know how hard it is for you, i truly hope that you can overcome this awful disease one day..... maybe there is hope for the two of us yet!  I was reading your other post, how did your last appointment go?   Did you have to get on the dreaded scale?  I find myself becoming more and more addicted to the scale.  I dont have a scale at my house but i am always sleeping over at my boyfriends house ( he lives with his parents) and they have a scale.  Whenever i am there i weigh  myself about three to four times a day, sometimes just twice in fifteen minutes hoping that the number will magically go down within fifteen minutes.  How unrealistic is that???  Alan (my boyfriend) hates that i weigh myself and has threatened to remove the scale from his house.   

  

I guess i am just writing to write now... nothing much going on here.... i am in better spirits than i  was this weekend, and today is valentines day so im a little happier than usual.  Alan bought me a huge teddy bear ( and chocolate that i didnt eat) lol.  He's so sweet.  (sometimes lol)  

  

Hope you are doing well, i have been praying for you and will continue to keep you in my prayers, let me know how you are doing !  

  

Amy  

  

  

 

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February 15, 2006, 7:21 am PST

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Hello there!  have been thinking about you, and wondering how everything was going! I am sssoo glad to hear about your positive mindset, that is half the battle. You know I totally understand about how it hurts so much physically. We have screwed with our bodies so much and then when we try to bring them back to normal, they don't like it very much. Let me just so how incredably PROUD I am of you! You were near death, and honestly scared the living daylights out of me. I was so worried about you, I am so glad  you are getting stronger in your mind and body. Yes, the exercise thing is a tricky tricky subject. I was so fortunate to have a physical therapist helping me not overdo things. I don't really have a whole lot of advice for the exercise part........all I will say it's really hard to not go overboard with it (like I am doing now!). I am so proud of you, Rain. You are doing this and you are so strong and couragous and I believe in you 100%...........you CAN do this and you WILL do this because you are so strong!  

You want to know something kind of ironic. Back when we first started talking, you were doing not so good, and I was doing pretty well, now you are doing well and I am doing not so good. I've been restricting a lot lately. Yesterday I didn't eat anything for 12 hours during the day and I exercised too. I am leaving my treatment team and I am really freaked out but pretty numb to the fact. I think that has a lot to do with my backsliding. I just wish it all away. It hurts so badly and I just want it to go away. I don't want an eating disorder anymore.......I wish I never had one in the first place. I'm so numb it's not good. I do see my therapist today (one of the last times) and I am really worried about being weighed. I hope I become un-numb today in therapy. I think I'm just babbling now..........I think I should go, I'm feeling pretty hopeless right now, kind of like "what's the point," but hopefully therapy goes well today. It was sssooo good to hear from you! I honestly have been thinking of you lately! I hope everything continues to go well for you, and please let's keep chatting on here so we can keep up to date on each other's lives! Lol. Talk with you later! 

Julie 

why are you leaving group and therapy?  oh can't you see someone.  haa i am saying that to you and i am not seeing anyone.  yeah i would freak if i had to get on a scale.  i look at me and think dang you have gained waaaaaaayyyyy to much weight!!!  it is so easy to want to just not eat and think just for a little bit just one day or just a little bit of food.  instead i feel like i am such a pig with food but i am trying to stop that.  it just seems like so much of the time i just stay so hungry it is annoying.  i think about you a lot!!  i hope therapy goes well for you today and that something great happens.  hmmmmm well i will talk to you more later. 

 
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February 15, 2006, 10:42 am PST

Hi Amy

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Hi, 

  

When i was in the hospital for the anorexia, they had me drinking ensure about 6 times a day.  that is however nasty and i dont reccommend it lol.  When i got out of the hospital for one of the hospitalizations they also like julie gave me a "food plan" that i really didnt stick to.  I used to buy the carnation instant breakfasts, and put icecream and milk and mix it up in a blender, it didnt taste bad and it was like a milk shake.  I know i put on a lot of weight from that.  Hope this tip helps.  Maybe you can incorporate carnation instant breakfast into your diet, it doesnt have empty calories, there is a lot of nutritionally sound and healthy things in that.  Hope this helps! 

  

Amy 

Hi, thanks for the tip. I actually have carnation instant breakfast already but never thought of making it into a milk shake. Thats a great idea. Maybe I can dump a vanilla boost in it instead of milk LOL My moms friend yesterday for Valentines got me a 8 pack of Boost Plus which I luv the chocolate but the vanilla is to sweet Ihad to forse myself to drink it and Im sick of making myself eat or drink things cuz I have too but if I made that in the blender with a chocolate carnation drink I think I could deal with that :-) Thanks again :-) 

You guys are all so helpful and wonderful in here and if theres anything I can ever do for anyone please just let me know. Take  care all. 

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February 15, 2006, 4:49 pm PST

julie

i almost messed up so bad today with self harm and food but i pushed through and made it.  it's still really hard right now but i am about to go to the dorm mom's room to watch american idol..... hope we ecan talk soon
 

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February 16, 2006, 4:39 am PST

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i almost messed up so bad today with self harm and food but i pushed through and made it.  it's still really hard right now but i am about to go to the dorm mom's room to watch american idol..... hope we ecan talk soon

Hi Amy, Julie, Sarah and all those others that have been posting over the last few days, 

  

In Australia we just watched the first show of season 4, which amongst other things discussed both anorexia and bulimia. I don't know if this is the show that people are responding to or if that is yet to air in Australia. Anyway, watching the show prompted me to come and check out the website/message boards again. About 4 years ago I was diagnosed with anorexia and as you guys all know have struggled with it each day since. At the moment I am doing really well with eating and my weight, though from on the depression side I'm still a long way from recovered. I still have issues with my body image and weight (I have put on 20kg in the last 12 months and this is really hard to deal with - though recently lost about 5 of those through healthy eating and exercise) and my depression is at a stage where it is controllable. Some days I don't even think about it which is a far cry from the constant every minute of every day obsession it was 12 months ago.  

  

Although I am not fully recovered and I certainly don't have anywhere near all the answers, I would like to offer my support and friendship to anyone needing help at the moment. All your posts have touched my heart  ( I found one from a fellow aussie - the language tipped me off straight away - but can't seem to find it again) and I know how bad it is when it's really bad and you hate yourself and your life and you just don't want to live.  

  

I also want to offer you hope, and although I know I'm not cured and this is something I need to deal with everyday, but it can get better, and life can become bearable even sometimes enjoyable. 

  

So I'll be thinking of you all and praying for you and if any of you want to talk about anything I'd love to listen on the board or email with you. 

  

Thanks for taking the time to read this, 

  

Karen 

 

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February 16, 2006, 5:19 am PST

some ideas

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my name is anna, when i was 15 years old i got myself into a very bad relationship. i started to not eat and make myself throw up to relieve myself of stress and to make myself feel clean, and forget everything. soon after i started doing that, before i started losing weight i started dating the new guy, whom i am still with today. that is when it started getting worse, because i couldn't forget things from the past. i lost 30 pounds in 1 month. after that i felt so proud of myself, and it made me feel like everything had gotten better. so i became obsessed with my body and weight. my boyfriend took action and helped me to recover. it took 2 years. it has been about 8 months since i have been really bad with it. now i want to lose some weight, after i recovered i gain a bunch of weight. i am not fat, but i want to lose some weight. every time i start to work out and stuff i get carried away and over do it, and dieting i take it to far. i have asked my boyfriend to help me but he gets upset, he doesn't want me to worry about that. i don't know how to get in shape, and not trigger my eating disorder to happen all over again. i would love some advice. i don't have anyone to talk to about this. please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Hi anna,  

  

I am in a similar situation. I am recovering from anorexia and have been a healthy weight for about 12 months now, but still have poor self esteem and and poor body image. I would like to get into shape an have a body that I like but I do not want to head down that downward spiral of not eating again combined with severe depression. At the moment, the way I'm dealing with it is to try and eat really healthly, not diet or have low fat food or anything, but to eat 5 times a day and try and have a good range of foods (including fruit smoothies whih is always good when your struggling). I have found that this keeps my energy up and increases my metabolism. I am also just walking 5 times a week (to work) and then I would suggest if you can find a friend (who you can keep you accountable - even if they don't know your situation) to do some really enjoyable exerise with - like a fun class at the gym or recreational sport - something that relaxes you and you're not pushing yourself in but enjoying the benefits of the exercise (especially reduced anxiety and depression). And if you don't have anyone to go with try and go to the same class/activity each week and meet the regulars. 

  

I have the same fears as you as i want to lose weight but I certainly don't want to become severely anorexic again  

Hope this helps - if you want more ideas for exercise etc. I am an exercise physiologist andwould be happy to help you out. 

  

Thinking of you and hope you're doing well, 

  

Karen 

 
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February 16, 2006, 8:33 pm PST

hello

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Hi Julie, 

  

Sorry i havent written in a bit.  This weekend I was very suicidal to the point that i had the pill bottles open and the water out ready to take them.  I however didnt swallow the pills or i wouldnt be typing now lol, i called my boyfriend and he wasnt much help so i took a few pills (more than i was supposed to ) and went to sleep for the night.  The next day my boyfriend realized how awful i was doing and wouldnt let me be alone in the house.  He kind of made me feel somewhat better being near him, and realizing that he loves me no matter what.  My boyfriend loves me unconditionally and is very good to me, BUT he really doesnt understand the emotional pain or the anorexia i suffer from.  He doesnt really try to either.  He tells me that he is here for me but that we really need to find someone to help me because he isnt capable of it..... which i completely understand.  Sometimes i get mad at him because i just wish that he could take it all away for me.. but i know that is unrealistic thinking.  He really doesnt understand about the food part and his answer is to make sure that i eat infront of him.  He takes me out to eat all the time now, but what he doesnt realize is .. is that i have started puking it up lol.  I have never done this before and all i can say is that i am so ashamed of myself.  I feel so dirty.  I guess like you I really am spiraling downwards and quickly.  But you know this is my CHOICE to DIE... and to be in pain both physically and emotoinally so i dont deserve help.. that and the fact that i dont have health insurance so im not entitled to proper care :S 

  

How are you doing?? I am saddened to hear that you are not doing well and that you are going to be leaving treatment.  I guess that I can sit here and tell you to stick with treatment and that you can do it and you can get better.. but then i would being totally hypocritical.  All I can say is that i know the pain you are going through and i know how hard it is for you, i truly hope that you can overcome this awful disease one day..... maybe there is hope for the two of us yet!  I was reading your other post, how did your last appointment go?   Did you have to get on the dreaded scale?  I find myself becoming more and more addicted to the scale.  I dont have a scale at my house but i am always sleeping over at my boyfriends house ( he lives with his parents) and they have a scale.  Whenever i am there i weigh  myself about three to four times a day, sometimes just twice in fifteen minutes hoping that the number will magically go down within fifteen minutes.  How unrealistic is that???  Alan (my boyfriend) hates that i weigh myself and has threatened to remove the scale from his house.   

  

I guess i am just writing to write now... nothing much going on here.... i am in better spirits than i  was this weekend, and today is valentines day so im a little happier than usual.  Alan bought me a huge teddy bear ( and chocolate that i didnt eat) lol.  He's so sweet.  (sometimes lol)  

  

Hope you are doing well, i have been praying for you and will continue to keep you in my prayers, let me know how you are doing !  

  

Amy  

  

  

Hello Amy! Wow, it sure sounds like had a hard weekend. Let me first say how sorry I am that things are so difficult for you right now. No one deserves to suffer in teh ways that you are suffering. I know how hard it gets, I know how bad it hurts, I know the God-awful pain you must be in. Being suicidal is a really scary thing because I also know when you get in that mode of hopelessness nothing seems like it will ever be better and it all gets so overwhelming and scary. I am so sorry things have been so horrible lately. I pray they get better for you........just hold on, like I said, I know, so please hold on. 

I'm also sorry I haven't written back in a while. I was at school till really late last night and I worked all day today, so this is the first time I have gotten to the computer! Thanks for asking how I am doing..........it means a lot to me to know that people care :-) 

I am doing all right. I think I have decided to stay in treatment for a little longer at least. I will have to pay for it entirely out of my pocket though, which is going to be a big stressor. Yesterday I went to see my doctor. That was probably the worst visit I ever had with her. I have been restricting a lot lately, right, and she said if I don't start following my meal plan she will not let me be seen there anymore. So I said "well then you know what will happen, I will just go off and die." I was also asked if I had given up hope.......I didn't know how to answer and then she said something to the extent of "if you dont' care about your recovery why should I?" That HURT so bad! This place is my last hope, my only hope and for her to basically tell me she didn't care really hurt! But I guess she also told me some good things, hard truth, but truth hurts I guess. She said that I am responsible for what happens to me. I am the only one who can make the pain stop. I guess I can't blame my actions on having a disease anymore. I am confused though. I thought anorexia was a disease (I KNOW anorexia is a disease!) but then how can I be expected to control my behavior? Wait, I think I know...........I can control my behavior but I cannot control the fact taht I developed and have anorexia (and I'm convinced I will always have it). Maybe that's it. Maybe it's time I took responsibility for my own actions...............but it's ssssssssssooooooooo hard!!!!!!!! It hurts so badly and I just want it to all go away. I dont' want to fight anymore and get so tired of fighting. I think I'm rambling, I really hope I made sense up there.  

How are you doing, Amy? Has life been treating you any better hun? I hope it is. I have been thinking about you lately and I hope you are doing well :-) 

  

Julie 

 
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February 16, 2006, 8:43 pm PST

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Hi Amy, Julie, Sarah and all those others that have been posting over the last few days, 

  

In Australia we just watched the first show of season 4, which amongst other things discussed both anorexia and bulimia. I don't know if this is the show that people are responding to or if that is yet to air in Australia. Anyway, watching the show prompted me to come and check out the website/message boards again. About 4 years ago I was diagnosed with anorexia and as you guys all know have struggled with it each day since. At the moment I am doing really well with eating and my weight, though from on the depression side I'm still a long way from recovered. I still have issues with my body image and weight (I have put on 20kg in the last 12 months and this is really hard to deal with - though recently lost about 5 of those through healthy eating and exercise) and my depression is at a stage where it is controllable. Some days I don't even think about it which is a far cry from the constant every minute of every day obsession it was 12 months ago.  

  

Although I am not fully recovered and I certainly don't have anywhere near all the answers, I would like to offer my support and friendship to anyone needing help at the moment. All your posts have touched my heart  ( I found one from a fellow aussie - the language tipped me off straight away - but can't seem to find it again) and I know how bad it is when it's really bad and you hate yourself and your life and you just don't want to live.  

  

I also want to offer you hope, and although I know I'm not cured and this is something I need to deal with everyday, but it can get better, and life can become bearable even sometimes enjoyable. 

  

So I'll be thinking of you all and praying for you and if any of you want to talk about anything I'd love to listen on the board or email with you. 

  

Thanks for taking the time to read this, 

  

Karen 

Hello Karen. I just wanted to write you a little thank you for posting on here and sharing your story and support. It means a lot to me to know that I am not alone. It is always so encouraging to know that there are others out there who are fighting this and winning. I hope you keep fighting and know that you are welcome to post here any time because we all appreciate hearing words of support. Yesterday was one of the worst days ever for me, and then to come on here and read this today was very encouraging. Thanks.  

Julie 

 

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February 16, 2006, 9:47 pm PST

Julie

From Addicitive Personalities by Craig Nakken 

  

Addict: "Bring me your pain, I will give you relief." 

Translation:  Give mem your pain, I'll give you an illusion of relief." 

  

Addict:  "I will set you free." 

Translation:  "I will come to own you." 

  

Addict:  "Spend time with me, you can trust me you can't trust anyone else." 

Translation:  Spend time with me I will teach you to be mistrustful to others." 

  

Addict: "I will teach you a way that you won't have to face issues." 

Translation: "You can hide temperarly but the issue won't go away." 

  

After I read that I prayed and asked God what do you say about it God what would it be if i did Translation and then The word of God.  Here is how it looks.  oh yeah and translation is satan speaking. 

  

Translation/satan:  "Give me your pain I'll give you an illusion of relief."   

God:  "I heal the heartbroken and bandage their wounds."  Psalms 147:3 

  

Translation/satan:  I will come to own you. 

God:  "I am close to the broken hearted; I rescues those who are crushed in spirit."  Psalms 34:18 

  

Translations/satan:  "Spend time with me I will teach you to be mistrustful of others." 

God:  "Do not let your heart be troubled trust in me (God)."  (can't remember where sorry) 

  

Translation/satan:  "You can hide temporarly, but the issue won't go way." 

God:  "I am a safe place to hide, ready to help when you need me.  You stand fearless at the cliff-edge of doom, courageous in seastorm and earthquake, before the rush and roar of the sea and the tremors that shift the mountians."  Psalms 46:1-3 

  

  

I made it more personall instead of puting God I used I and well yeah liike that. 

  

Now you know that God is Love ok so I am going to write this scripture and instead of using the word love i am going to put God 

  

"God is patient, God is kind....He does not envy, He does not boast, He is not proud.  He is not rude, He is not self seeking.  He is not easily angered, He keeps no record of wrong.  God does not delieght in evil but rejoices with the truth.  He always protects, always trust, always hopes and always perseveres.  God never fails."  1 Cor 13:4-the first part of 8 and now verse 13 "And now these three things remain: faith, hope and God.  But the greatest of these is God!!!"  

  

Remember God is love so i have replaced it with He and Love with God.   

  

There is so much truth there and what is truth God is truth He said it so There is so much God!!!!   

  

anyway i am suppose to have my quite time/spend alone time with God in His word and in prayer.  cya later!!!!  remember I am praying for you and God is with you!!!   

  

hugs and much love!! 

  

You can do it!!!! 

  

When God lives in us and we say I can't do it your right but the God in you can!!!!  When we are our weakest we are at our strongest because God is strength through us!!!  Let God be your strength!!! 

 

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February 17, 2006, 3:12 am PST

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Hello Karen. I just wanted to write you a little thank you for posting on here and sharing your story and support. It means a lot to me to know that I am not alone. It is always so encouraging to know that there are others out there who are fighting this and winning. I hope you keep fighting and know that you are welcome to post here any time because we all appreciate hearing words of support. Yesterday was one of the worst days ever for me, and then to come on here and read this today was very encouraging. Thanks.  

Julie 

Hi Julie,  

  

Hope you had a better day today! Thinking of you! 

  

Karen 

 
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