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March 18, 2007, 6:01 am PDT

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Haliee im 34and i have battled anorexia for 7years now it only gets worse if you let it im in recovery but i still struggle everyday im married and it has effected my family dearly .please get help there is hope for recovery i did it and its a long battle its not easy but you can do it.
     I am a 37 year old recovering anorexic.  I know what you are going through.  You are on the path to self destruction.  I don't know much about you but what you wrote but I do know how these diseases work.  They put you in a sense of false control and make you think that all is well.  It is not.  The longer and more that you do this the longer you take to get better from the physical side effects.  They can be any where from tooth loss, bone deterioration, back problems, migraines, electrolyte imbalance, stomach problems gall bladder liver kidneys muscle loss.  The list goes on and on and that doesn't touch the mental side effects either.  Please seek help from someone that you trust.  If you feel that your parents can help you go to them first.  If they need to talk to someone that has been through the same thing that your going through please have them contact me by e-mail.  I will talk with you or your parents or both.  But please don't delay.  You need help now.  I didn't have my parents when I needed them the most and if your parents have been good to you you must give them the respect of telling them this.  You are not alone.  I don't know what in your life pushed you to this but you need to remember the first time that you ever had thoughts of it.  That is the point of origin.  There are people that can help you you just have to let them.  You have to realize that your life is worth living and that you are worth saving.  All children are precious.  You are too.  Please tell your parents.  If you cant tell them tell someone else close to you.  Let people in.  You and your parents or anyone else that needs to talk can write me at sarahcash37@yahoo.com .  I will do all I can to help you.  Good luck!
 
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March 18, 2007, 9:46 am PDT

Seeing fat?

Hi everyone,

 

I just joined this message board.  I have struggled off and on with eating disorders since age 9 (though perhaps more on than off, to be sure...). Sometimes I just really wonder what is the true deal with anorexia in terms of brain chemistry/endocrine status.  There are many times when I'm at a higher weight and I'm actually not seeing myself as "fat/overweight," even though really, I should "see" overweight at that point; by standard statistical tables for my body frame and height, I would be overweight by 15-20 pounds. 

 

So then, I lose the weight (not from starvation - just diet and exercise).  And lo and behold, I arrive at this more "normal" weight, look in the mirror and literally SEE myself as fatter.  How does this happen?  It is at THAT point that I feel most at risk for an eating disorder.  My weight will be normal, I'm exercising regularly, eating a well balanced diet and suddenly going hmmm.... maybe a little less, then a little less than that.  And the thing is, I DO understand that my weight has dropped 20 pounds or so, that my clothes fit well, and that I should not actually "see" fat, and yet... I can't help what I see.  Why does this happen at the lower weight, but not at the higher weight??  Just looking for anyone's thoughts on this...

 

 
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March 18, 2007, 9:56 am PDT

Anyone remember Crystal?

I was just remembering a show Dr. Phil aired a long time ago (several years, in fact) featuring a young woman suffering with anorexia and bulimia.  Her name was Crystal.  I remember she had a bowl she hand-decorated called "Mia-time" for obvious reasons.  She seemed SO sad, and so lonely, and like she just needed love more than I've ever seen in my life.  I really would like to know what happened to her, but I'm hardly ever home to watch the show, nor do I have time to view recorded episodes.  If anyone knows of any updates regarding Crystal, I would love to hear about it, as she really touched my heart. Thanks so much! 

 
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March 19, 2007, 6:49 am PDT

Daughter with anorexia

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My daughter has been suffering with anorexia for ten years.  She is 22 and lives at home while attending college.  We are so frustrated because we do not know how to help her.  She is struggles daily, is so very thin, eats very little, but constantly wants us to confirm that she has not gained any weight or that she doesn't look fat.  She stresses out regularly and then we stress out , because we don't know what to do. What is the right thing, are we saying or doing the wrong thing.  As a parent we want only the best for her, and feel helpless.  How do you watch your child ( no matter their age) struggle.  The thought that we may loose her terrifies us.  At this age she has to make the choice for treatment.  We know that, but it isn't easy.  We are open to any suggestions to help her and to help us cope.

 
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March 19, 2007, 10:59 am PDT

what you gave to do is...

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Hi ,

My daughter has been suffering with anorexia for ten years.  She is 22 and lives at home while attending college.  We are so frustrated because we do not know how to help her.  She is struggles daily, is so very thin, eats very little, but constantly wants us to confirm that she has not gained any weight or that she doesn't look fat.  She stresses out regularly and then we stress out , because we don't know what to do. What is the right thing, are we saying or doing the wrong thing.  As a parent we want only the best for her, and feel helpless.  How do you watch your child ( no matter their age) struggle.  The thought that we may loose her terrifies us.  At this age she has to make the choice for treatment.  We know that, but it isn't easy.  We are open to any suggestions to help her and to help us cope.

 Let her know that you love her unconditionally and that you will always love her.  I had no one to help me through this except my husband.  You can have her committed without her consent.  But that is up to you.  As a recovering anorexic,  I know that it is about control.  Find out what your daughter has had trouble controlling in her life.  Whatever that point is where it started.  Talk to her and let her tell you any thing no matter how hard it may be.  I couldn't even tell my parents that I was raped.  Maybe something happened that she is ashamed of scared of or terrified of.  It may be nothing big to you but to her it was devastating.  Sit her down and tell her how much you love her and will help her.  I know you probably have but she really needs to her it.  And don't believe that this is your fault for what is happening to her.  You sound like you really want her to get better and that is what it will take.  I was anorexic for about 10 years and I know what you are going through.  I could not help myself, I so wanted to stop but the stress and abuse from my family I could not.  I let them control me.  Finally I tried to end it in front of my son and husband for them that was it.  They had had enough and told me that he did not want to see me die.  He loved me more than his own life but he would not let our son see this in his mother.  I'm proud to say that I have topped and am doing great with our life.  We are both going to college to be nurses.  Your daughter can get better.  It takes time be there for her let her know you will help.  I wish you good luck with this.
 
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March 19, 2007, 11:26 am PDT

you can contact me anytime you need to talk.

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Hi ,

My daughter has been suffering with anorexia for ten years.  She is 22 and lives at home while attending college.  We are so frustrated because we do not know how to help her.  She is struggles daily, is so very thin, eats very little, but constantly wants us to confirm that she has not gained any weight or that she doesn't look fat.  She stresses out regularly and then we stress out , because we don't know what to do. What is the right thing, are we saying or doing the wrong thing.  As a parent we want only the best for her, and feel helpless.  How do you watch your child ( no matter their age) struggle.  The thought that we may loose her terrifies us.  At this age she has to make the choice for treatment.  We know that, but it isn't easy.  We are open to any suggestions to help her and to help us cope.

     If you want to talk or if your daughter will talk to me please eel free to write.  I hope that my story helps you and your family.  There is hope.  No matter how bad you may think that it is there is hope.  I was supposed to be dead by now because of the stress that I put on my self and the abuse of my parents.  At one point I didn't care if I lived or died.  Your daughter is most likely feeling the same way.    Don't make her feel like it is something that she can help because believe me the guilt will make it worse.  She has to feel like she is in control and that is the issue that has to be addressed by a therapist.  Let her know you love her is the most important advice and if need be you will go to therapy with her.
Good luck and keep in touch.
 
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March 19, 2007, 12:40 pm PDT

It is all about control

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Hi everyone,

 

I just joined this message board.  I have struggled off and on with eating disorders since age 9 (though perhaps more on than off, to be sure...). Sometimes I just really wonder what is the true deal with anorexia in terms of brain chemistry/endocrine status.  There are many times when I'm at a higher weight and I'm actually not seeing myself as "fat/overweight," even though really, I should "see" overweight at that point; by standard statistical tables for my body frame and height, I would be overweight by 15-20 pounds. 

 

So then, I lose the weight (not from starvation - just diet and exercise).  And lo and behold, I arrive at this more "normal" weight, look in the mirror and literally SEE myself as fatter.  How does this happen?  It is at THAT point that I feel most at risk for an eating disorder.  My weight will be normal, I'm exercising regularly, eating a well balanced diet and suddenly going hmmm.... maybe a little less, then a little less than that.  And the thing is, I DO understand that my weight has dropped 20 pounds or so, that my clothes fit well, and that I should not actually "see" fat, and yet... I can't help what I see.  Why does this happen at the lower weight, but not at the higher weight??  Just looking for anyone's thoughts on this...

 

     As a recovering anorexic, I have learned much about this disease.  The one thing it gives you is control over something that is yours, your body.  I too have times when I see my self as fat.  If I put on my pants and they are tight I will panic.  I cant breathe and I have to get them off.  After these episodes I will stop eating for about a day but then I will go back to normal.  I started suffering this because of abusive parents and other people that were in my life.  At 10 I weighed 200 then got really sick with Rheumatic fever.  This caused me to loose 100 lbs.  When I became thinner, my parents could only tell me that I was getting big again and after the abuse I suffered at their hands and others I told my self that I would no longer ever be made fun of.  I started taking laxatives, throwing up uncontrollably, and falling in to a deep depression because I could never be good enough for my parents.  There are all kinds of causes for this. Some of them are like mine because of abuse, some people do this because of other kinds of abuse like sexual and rape and physical and last but not least the ever present emotional abuse.  When these things happen to you your body and mind only knows one way to deal and that is to control the one thing you and only you can.  I had to learn that I was worth saving that my parents are the ones that are loosing out because I no longer have anything to do with them.  I will never again let them control my life and emotions.  They had their chance and they blew it.  If you have anyone that you can talk to please do find out what pushed you into this.  The starting point.   If you want to talk to someone who has been through this, please feel free to contact me at sarahcash37@yahoo.com.  I will listen and try to help all I can.  Good luck.
 
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March 19, 2007, 1:36 pm PDT

also tell your daughter

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Hi ,

My daughter has been suffering with anorexia for ten years.  She is 22 and lives at home while attending college.  We are so frustrated because we do not know how to help her.  She is struggles daily, is so very thin, eats very little, but constantly wants us to confirm that she has not gained any weight or that she doesn't look fat.  She stresses out regularly and then we stress out , because we don't know what to do. What is the right thing, are we saying or doing the wrong thing.  As a parent we want only the best for her, and feel helpless.  How do you watch your child ( no matter their age) struggle.  The thought that we may loose her terrifies us.  At this age she has to make the choice for treatment.  We know that, but it isn't easy.  We are open to any suggestions to help her and to help us cope.

     That she should thank God above that she has parents to love and support and worry about her.  All eating disorder patients are not so lucky.  I never had my parents to worry about me it was what are people going to think about us with her (me) acting like this.  They could care less.  I was lucky enough to find a man that would love and accept me for me and not abuse me.   If there is a God above he sent him to me at the right time.  I Hope that you can help your daughter.  If you need to talk I am here.  I know how it is to be needing help or advice and not know where or who to go to.  I sincerely hope that your daughter realizes that she is worth saving before it is too late.  Tell her of all the side effects that she will suffer.  But most of all tell her you love her.  It is sad that society today has it to where girls and boys alike think they have to be this perfect image.  It doesn't address the real problem which is control issues.  It is not right to make fun of people because they are different or are not rich.  All men were created equal.  That is the way that it should be.
 
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March 19, 2007, 8:20 pm PDT

Thanks for the reply

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     As a recovering anorexic, I have learned much about this disease.  The one thing it gives you is control over something that is yours, your body.  I too have times when I see my self as fat.  If I put on my pants and they are tight I will panic.  I cant breathe and I have to get them off.  After these episodes I will stop eating for about a day but then I will go back to normal.  I started suffering this because of abusive parents and other people that were in my life.  At 10 I weighed 200 then got really sick with Rheumatic fever.  This caused me to loose 100 lbs.  When I became thinner, my parents could only tell me that I was getting big again and after the abuse I suffered at their hands and others I told my self that I would no longer ever be made fun of.  I started taking laxatives, throwing up uncontrollably, and falling in to a deep depression because I could never be good enough for my parents.  There are all kinds of causes for this. Some of them are like mine because of abuse, some people do this because of other kinds of abuse like sexual and rape and physical and last but not least the ever present emotional abuse.  When these things happen to you your body and mind only knows one way to deal and that is to control the one thing you and only you can.  I had to learn that I was worth saving that my parents are the ones that are loosing out because I no longer have anything to do with them.  I will never again let them control my life and emotions.  They had their chance and they blew it.  If you have anyone that you can talk to please do find out what pushed you into this.  The starting point.   If you want to talk to someone who has been through this, please feel free to contact me at sarahcash37@yahoo.com.  I will listen and try to help all I can.  Good luck.
hey, it sounds like you've really suffered tremendously with this illness.  I am sorry that your parents were not able to provide the kind of love and support that every child needs and deserves.  I do understand that eating disorders have a multitude of psychological/cultural/social causes, but I guess I was looking for some insight into the hormonal/neural relationship between the loss of a normal body image with a lower weight.  I'm speculating that it might actually have something to do with a critical fat percent more so than an arbitrary "weight" per se, which as we all know is rather meaningless.  Unlike many anorexia sufferers (and I'm not sure I would consider myself one; my weight is pretty normal) I am very lucky in that my parents were exceptional folks.  I'm not saying my childhood was a bowl of cherries by any stretch, but I believe that they always did the best they could, and I realize this is not the case with many parents.   I really appreciate the thoughtful, loving reply you left though.  You don't even know me and yet you have given so much of yourself in that post. 
 
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March 19, 2007, 8:48 pm PDT

Support yourselves first

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Hi ,

My daughter has been suffering with anorexia for ten years.  She is 22 and lives at home while attending college.  We are so frustrated because we do not know how to help her.  She is struggles daily, is so very thin, eats very little, but constantly wants us to confirm that she has not gained any weight or that she doesn't look fat.  She stresses out regularly and then we stress out , because we don't know what to do. What is the right thing, are we saying or doing the wrong thing.  As a parent we want only the best for her, and feel helpless.  How do you watch your child ( no matter their age) struggle.  The thought that we may loose her terrifies us.  At this age she has to make the choice for treatment.  We know that, but it isn't easy.  We are open to any suggestions to help her and to help us cope.

Hi, I'm really sorry to hear about your daughter - it's an unimaginable strain for parents, and one that I don't feel should be endured alone.  For what it's worth, I believe the best thing you can do for your daughter right now is to make sure that you and your husband are taking the very best possible care of yourselves, and your relationship with each other. 

 

I hope this will not sound offensive, but a counselor would be very helpful at this point for you talk about how this illness affects both you and your husband, and will allow you to "vent" your frustrations to someone who can give you constructive feedback.  Speaking as someone who probably drove her parents off the deep end more than a few times, I wish they would have thought of seeing a counselor at the time.  A trite, but useful analogy we use in counseling class is that a mother  flying with her child shouldn't fix her child's breathing apparatus until she has fixed her own, no matter how strong the desire is to get that mask over her child's face first.  

 

Ten years is an extremely long time... you must be exhausted.  I don't know how you are managing to keep coping, seeking support the way you are.  There are some legal options you may look into to keep your child safe despite her being over legal age.  Depending on the laws in your state, you may be able to file a petition to take over her medical rights until she is in a more medically safe position to make her own decisions.   My parents actually have medical power of attorney over me, and I didn't fight them on it. 

 

Also, in the meantime (and people can argue any which way on this), I would say it's okay to keep up the broken record of "you're not fat, you're not fat" because they always interpret silence to mean "I must be ENORMOUS!"   I truly believe that she can't see beyond the "I'm so fat" thing until her nutrition has recovered and the attendant depression lifts enough to allow her to see life as more meaningful.  Like, oh... maybe I'm not feeling fat, but like just unhappy in general... lonely, scared... etc.. It's  much easier to just "feel fat."  Though this is not her fault in any way, I realize how hard that is on the both of you as well.  Best wishes in your search for help.

 
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